>>11435403There is a difference between engineer students and engineers in the field. Students are retarded (that also holds for any bachelors degree student), but engineers in the workforce are valuable and important.
>>11435477>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOOON'T HURT MY SELF ESTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMwhere the fuck do you think you are, retard?
>>11435653Have you ever done theoretical thermodynamics/stat mech?
>>11435666True. Though sometimes I like getting deeper into one particular subject even if it's not truly physics. Had to create a PID controler once as a job and that was very interesting.
>>11437445who the fuck do you think keeps the systems running you rely on every day? We need engeneers as much as we need scientists, maybe even more so.
Modern day internet's fucked though, but that happens to anything that gets old and standardised.
>>11442352Contacts are important anywhere, though.
>>11443408That's not true, only the ones that are interested enough to go deeper into the math are eligible to be called something approximating a mathematician. At my uni the physics math courses are way above the engineers math courses and our courses aren't even nearly as deep as mathematicians classes.
>>11444159Math generally only became useful to the general public only when physicists found something usefull and engineers used it to create things that made life better. If you agree that the industrial revolution increased life quality, that is.