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How could they invent, learn and use langaugaes like that, if they are supposedly so dumb?

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 08:53:47 2020 No.11427104 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11427178 >>11427291 >>11427318 >>11427374 >>11428469

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225358091_Verbal_morphology_in_Murrinh-Patha_Evidence_for_templates

How is that possible? Do they suffer from some kind of dementia today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 09:42:38 No.11427151 Report

Quoted By: >>11427270

Did you even read the abstract?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 09:59:37 No.11427178 Report

Quoted By: >>11427384

>>11427104
>so dumb
by modern society standards. if we were to quantify cognitive abilities across all species then the difference between a primitive tribesman and a top tier scientist would be far less than 1%

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 10:59:37 No.11427270 Report

Quoted By: >>11427318

>>11427151

Did you read a bit further? The grammar is completely insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:09:56 No.11427291 Report

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>>11427104
I don't see the contradiction between being generally dumb and being able to use a complex language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:27:43 No.11427318 Report

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>>11427104
>>11427270
1. languages aren't invented you dumb shit (except conlangs which go nowhere)
2. language is acquired in childhood, why wouldn't they learn it? it's within the bounds of human language faculties so it would be as easy as any other as a native tongue.
3. verbal morphology is smart? more like you think it's indicative of sophistication by your particular cultural background than any inherent value being present.

It's just agglutinative verbs. What's the fuss?
You realise grammaticalised things are simpler and more regular then saying them by other means, right? That's why grammaticalisation occurs in the first place, it's essentially a process of simplification and regularisation. Think of how there's no grammaticalised way of referring to the future in Old English, it must be said or implied in potentially endless different ways, whereas today we mostly use a few very grammaticalised simple ways like 'll and going to.

Also, if anything, primitive peoples live a lifestyle and have a society more conducive to complicated and subtle language than the lowest common denominator urbanised, civilised men.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 11:55:20 No.11427374 Report

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>>11427104
It's said that abbos have over 400 words for gasoline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 12:04:53 No.11427384 Report

Quoted By: >>11428419

>>11427178
is there actual evidence for that or are you just making a point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 18:46:14 No.11428419 Report

Quoted By: >>11428465

>>11427384
just making a point but that's probably true.
just compare every single cognitive ability of the most primitive man and the smartest man, both of them use sounds to describe objects, both of them have complex communication abilities, both of them are able to quantify, both of them have complex social structures, both of them are self aware, the list goes on forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7IaS3ml4g

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 19:01:56 No.11428465 Report

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>>11428419
But my (OP) question was about using what looks like a ridiculously complex langauge, not langauge in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Feb 2020 19:04:24 No.11428469 Report

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>>11427104
Most of live on earth is not going to space.
You are on 4Chins, i wouldn't be on such a high horse.

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