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An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 14:49:18 2020 No.11389893 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11390037 >>11391273 >>11392246

What's the /sci/ opinion on E8 theory?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_Everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Gk_Ddhr0M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 15:48:05 No.11390037 Report

Quoted By: >>11391148

>>11389893
do we have to have this thread every 2 weeks? see:
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11356389#p11357408

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 18:43:33 No.11390505 Report

Quoted By: >>11391471

Find the source of this projection and you'll find we're rediscovering Kepler's fractal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 18:45:01 No.11390512 Report

Quoted By: >>11391148

tldr?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 22:36:43 No.11391148 Report

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>>11390512
the main idea of it is "i predict a GUT like Pati-Salam SU(4)xSU(2)xSU(2) plus gravitons/graivty using E8"

as noted here >>11390037 it does not work out as he promised, and his surfer commune hangs onto its "physics" excuse by making up more and more exceptionally unsimple crap to keep this zombie shit alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 22:59:50 No.11391201 Report

Quoted By: >>11391263

I remember having read of some professor who claimed to have made some success making sense of E8xE8.
Does anyone know more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 23:27:15 No.11391263 Report

Quoted By: >>11392158

>>11391201
E8xE8 is a mainstream thing. look up HE heterotic string theory.

lisi's shit has nothing to do with that. he started with just E8 and it failed so now he has some horrendous E8xJumbled Mess crap. the whole premise of his "gravigut" program was to get gravity from gauge theory without anything beyond gauge theory QFT. he dislikes strings, so the entire E8xE8 heterotic string theory is disjoint from him

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 23:31:40 No.11391273 Report

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>>11389893
>independent researcher with no academic affiliation
yeah, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 00:46:07 No.11391471 Report

Quoted By: >>11391500

>>11390505
Elaborate pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 00:58:17 No.11391500 Report

Quoted By: >>11392204

>>11391471
don’t bother, that guy is probably a stoner from r/holofractal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 01:01:47 No.11391509 Report

Quoted By: >>11391514

There is and can never be a theory of everything, because everything is infinite
>no infinity in reality
you will be proved wrong in due time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 01:03:33 No.11391514 Report

Quoted By: >>11391520

>>11391509
yep, just like your mom’s weight is infinite

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 01:05:34 No.11391520 Report

Quoted By: >>11391528

>>11391514
Just think of the word "everything"
Does it not, alone, imply the infinite?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 01:08:29 No.11391528 Report

Quoted By: >>11391544

>>11391520
just think of the word "think"
does it not imply that you are rambling on philosophy nonsense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 01:15:32 No.11391544 Report

Quoted By: >>11391584

>>11391528
Without philosophy, science is aimless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 01:30:28 No.11391584 Report

Quoted By: >>11391680 >>11392198

>>11391544
philosophy is a bunch of assholes arguing the same shit over and over for centuries. where has it come since, say, 1900?

as far as i can tell it currently only fosters a bunch of anti-science postmodernists who want to argue that aboriginal amerindian astrology based on totem poles is just as valid as real science

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:24:21 No.11391680 Report

Quoted By: >>11391685

>>11391584
>where has it come since, say, 1900?
Pretty fucking far, faggot. Husserl will probably be remembered as the next Hegel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:26:18 No.11391685 Report

Quoted By: >>11391696

>>11391680
and what did he do?

let me guess, argue some shit about how science is wrong and some disadvantaged minority is equally right

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Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:36:14 No.11391696 Report

Quoted By: >>11391702

>>11391685
He posed a functional solution for most epistemological problems via the phenomenological epoche, not that you'd know what that means.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:41:39 No.11391702 Report

Quoted By: >>11391709 >>11391778 >>11392198

>>11391696
okay great he combined a bunch of meaningless words to amount to some meaningless crap.

have you read wittgenstein? if so did you actually take the tractatus to mean the actual words it says? i.e. that philosophical shit is meaningless and the only meaningful statements are those of empirical science?

or did you let your philosophy professors trick you into thinking he didn’t actually debunk philosophy and instead he meant something completely different from what he actually wrote?

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Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:44:08 No.11391709 Report

Quoted By: >>11391717

>>11391702
Anglos are literally incapable of thought so it's not surprising that you can't understand actual philosophy and instead point to Wittgenstein.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:48:36 No.11391717 Report

Quoted By: >>11391738

>>11391709
>actual philosophy
ohhh okay wittgenstein is anglo and he isn't an actual philosopher. good argument.

>The right method of philosophy would be this. To say nothing except what can be said, i.e. the propositions of natural science, i.e. something that has nothing to do with philosophy: and then always, when someone else wished to say something metaphysical, to demonstrate to him that he had given no meaning to certain signs in his propositions. This method would be unsatisfying to the other - he would not have the feeling that we were teaching him philosophy - but it would be the only strictly correct method.
philosophy debunked, case closed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 02:59:06 No.11391738 Report

Quoted By: >>11391742

>>11391717
I'm not saying he's not a philosopher, I'm saying you don't actually understand philosophy and are probably an angl*id. The tractatus boils down to autism like most of analytic "philosophy".

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 03:00:06 No.11391742 Report

Quoted By: >>11391752

>>11391738
okay, so you are smarter than wittgenstein. okay, i trust you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 03:04:10 No.11391752 Report

Quoted By: >>11391758

>>11391742
Convenient of you to ignore his later work, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 03:06:57 No.11391758 Report

Quoted By: >>11391782

>>11391752
the standard philosotard argument. he didn’t ever go back on his assertions in the tractatus, if you read what he actually wrote. what he argued in philosophical investigations is that value exists in exercising the mind with “thought games” or in his words “spiel”. even so, he never retracted his assertions about “the right method of philosophy”

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 03:16:39 No.11391778 Report

Quoted By: >>11391783

>>11391702
Philosophical shit is meaningless yet you quote a philosopher as evidence to your point. Ironic, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 03:19:38 No.11391782 Report

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>>11391758
>There is not a single philosophical method, though there are indeed methods, different therapies, as it were
Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 03:19:41 No.11391783 Report

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>>11391778
i quote the philosopher who settled the debate while it was still alive. and he killed it. citing the guy who ended the debate from the inside is hardly ironic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 07:31:55 No.11392158 Report

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>>11391263
Ahhh yes, now that you say it I remember. Thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 07:59:09 No.11392198 Report

Quoted By:

>>11391584
>>11391702
Bro stop
Being anti-intellectual is cringe.

Just let philosophers do their hard-thinks in peace. What difference does it make to you, a loser, anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 08:04:54 No.11392204 Report

Quoted By:

>>11391500
>know subreddits
You have to go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 Feb 2020 08:52:36 No.11392246 Report

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>>11389893
I prefer the Optimum Theory

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