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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 13:07:59 2020 No.11389729 View Reply Original Report

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This is the way East and West should cooperate on defining and exploring one of the last mysteries - Consciousness:

Christof Koch, PhD
Chief Scientific Officer Allen Institute for Brain Science

Tenzin Gyatso
His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFbVn58ETEA

Bonus Giulio Tononi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huxh9YCL5nM

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:09:14 No.11389733 Report

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>>11389729
i aint watchin shit, make an argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:22:32 No.11389749 Report

Quoted By: >>11389789 >>11389826

>>11389729
He should be talking to the pope, but whatever.

Elder NPC

Elder NPC Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:28:03 No.11389760 Report

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>>11389729
What the fuck is so mysterious about it? That it is something that still somehow succeeds in generating an audience?

Trump vs Consciousness vs Sharing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:30:33 No.11389764 Report

Quoted By: >>11389769 >>11389770 >>11389789

>>11389729
Consciousness isnt real. None of you are conscious, I am not conscious. It's unprovable. Qualia is the same as magick.

Elder NPC

Elder NPC Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:33:05 No.11389769 Report

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>>11389764
Is that not just a fancy way of saying it isn't a sustainable topic of conversation or a subject that can carry communication and memory across obscure barriers/boundaries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:34:32 No.11389770 Report

Quoted By: >>11389772

>>11389764
And yet I’m reading this now. Empirically, you are wrong.

Elder NPC

Elder NPC Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:35:50 No.11389772 Report

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>>11389770
Could just be the echo od your cave of past memory reflecting your now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:48:20 No.11389789 Report

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>>11389733
OP here.
It's just an contemporary "issue" sort of speak. We need to know so we explore and research. Nothing sinister about it. You should watch "that shit" because it is closely connected to the AI if you are not interested in how your mind/brain/self works.

>>11389764
That is also something to be considered...

>>11389749
He is a Christian so what is your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 13:49:53 No.11389793 Report

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Tononi and Koch are The top scientists at this moment on this subject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:17:15 No.11389826 Report

Quoted By: >>11389934

>>11389749
The last pope said Buddhism is a devil or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 14:49:37 No.11389895 Report

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>>11389729
rationalism is shit and cannot even explain anything for non easy audience

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Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 15:09:00 No.11389934 Report

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>>11389826
>pope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc#Capture

savages

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 15:56:47 No.11390064 Report

Quoted By: >>11390689

>>11389729
Tenzin Gyatso failed to respond properly. We, as a western scientists will move on and ditch buddism following this shitty event.

AI will be the orgasmic event.
Fully Conscious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 19:42:31 No.11390689 Report

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>>11390064
I concur. Sadly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 19:45:41 No.11390695 Report

Quoted By: >>11390725

>>11389729
>This is the way East and West should cooperate on defining and exploring one of the last mysteries - Consciousness:
define "consciousness"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 19:57:36 No.11390725 Report

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>>11390695
That is the issue here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 20:06:35 No.11390734 Report

Quoted By: >>11390744

>>11389729
Dalai Lama is retarded regarding modern science. Just look at this from 1:04:54

https://youtu.be/bXt8lbDZhVs?t=3894

Something radical needs to be implemented in buddhism. either that, or dalai lama is retarded. or scrap it all together and move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 20:11:40 No.11390744 Report

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>>11390734
You mean such as having high IQ atheists adopt buddhism as a "spiritual but not religious" practice where they insist Buddhism is okay while other religions are not, whilst being pseudointellectuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 20:11:59 No.11390745 Report

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Ah, Tononi, the guy that thinks you should measure the consciousness of a simulated brain by looking at the wires of the CPU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 16 Feb 2020 20:47:19 No.11390871 Report

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>>11390744
I mean, all our knowledge should be merger and filtered. Buddhism is the right path because you can always question every step or even discard it completely. Even Buddha said: Question everything even my words. It's a discovery. This series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXt8lbDZhVs are valuable and unique. Can't do the same with Muslims, Christians, or Atheists. This approach is rudimentary but very valuable. It's not about killing religion or science, it's about respecting centuries of our travel as a species toward understanding our universe. Buddhism is just most open to exploration and criticism. You can't eat a roasted pig while being drunk in Islam but you can buttrape Buddha for the sake of the spiritual path in buddhism.

>>11390745
Tononi is a scientist. He do experiments. Scientists experiment and test theories. That is what science is all about.

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