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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 05:29:43 2020 No.11383925 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11383928 >>11383963 >>11383999 >>11384041 >>11384092 >>11385949

if there is no consciousness, then why I have it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 05:35:49 No.11383928 Report

Quoted By: >>11384419

>>11383925
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 05:58:34 No.11383963 Report

Quoted By: >>11383997 >>11384010 >>11385002 >>11386018

>>11383925
/sci/ consists of engineers/tech dudes, undergrads, and people who have no formal training in science. They're rely on pop-sci for general scientific knowledge, and are therefore stuck in a 90's/early 00's understanding of sciences and don't realize that consciousness is an accepted construct in the cognitive sciences. Also, they're brainlets so they don't understand that even if "consciousness" is not empirically accessible, that doesn't entail that it doesn't "exist". Basically they're illiterate in philosophy and cognitive science.

>inb4 mentioning philosophy invalidates my point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 06:33:21 No.11383997 Report

Quoted By: >>11384402

>>11383963
half of you sounds based, but the other half is like a dan dennett believer / npc. I'm conflicted.

Also, open individualism is the answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 06:35:20 No.11383999 Report

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>>11383925
>if there is no consciousness, then why I have it?
define "consciousness"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 06:42:16 No.11384010 Report

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>>11383963
ok give us post early 00's sources on the recognition of conciousness

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 07:10:29 No.11384041 Report

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>>11383925
Distributed computation resources

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 07:57:54 No.11384092 Report

Quoted By: >>11384100

>>11383925
Prove you have it p-zombie scum. You can’t fool me.

Solivagus

Solivagus Fri 14 Feb 2020 08:04:12 No.11384100 Report

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>>11384092
Isn't proving something ultimately some unique presenter giving you sufficient information that moves your perspective, then by virtue the more stubborn you are the greater the shift you would experience so are just basically intellectually edging at this point?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 11:46:30 No.11384402 Report

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>>11383997
>open individualism is the answer
not really, but makes good sf movie endings

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 11:59:30 No.11384419 Report

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>>11383928
lol fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 12:02:02 No.11384422 Report

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>I think therefore I exist
I believe this summarizes consciousness, if you can think about your own existence, you have consciousness and since you exist, consciousness exists

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Anonymous Fri 14 Feb 2020 18:20:43 No.11385002 Report

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>>11383963
If you want to be a physicalist either in the epistemic of metaphysical sense, then denying that consciousness exists is probably the most consistent and viable option you have, otherwise the hard problem is just... too hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2020 01:24:38 No.11385949 Report

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>>11383925
it's a "light" not "doer"
it's like a fuel for engine, your brain. after you die, what will happen to you then is precisely what had happened to you
before birth. There was no ‘me’ to be concerned with anything before birth, nor
will there be after death. The dream that started with birth will have ended with
death.
Don’t worry, be happy, live your life moment to moment!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Feb 2020 01:56:56 No.11386018 Report

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>>11383963
>imagine unironically studying so you can post that you studied on the internet
Give me a BigMac with cheese.

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