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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 19:28:04 2020 No.11380029 View Reply Original Report

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How does someone come up with something like this ?

What were the greats like Euler and Gauss raised on to be able to do what they did ?

Why are there no more people like Gauss and Euler ?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:32:05 No.11380038 Report

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>>11380029
Imagine what people could do today if they weren't investing so much time with video games.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:34:33 No.11380048 Report

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>>11380029

It is all because people are spending time on entertainment and things like 4chan. Instead of locked up in their rooms with nothing but a pen, a heap of books and a good preportion of aspie genes.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:34:52 No.11380050 Report

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The intuition was probably Fermat's principle. Then the goal was to find criteria that gaurentee a stationary action.
>Why are there no more people like Gauss and Euler ?
>My dumbass can't name anybody, so they don't exist!
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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:37:46 No.11380059 Report

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>>11380029
In all the things in mathematics, that's the thing you're impressed about?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:40:23 No.11380064 Report

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>>11380029
he wasnt clamped, vaccinated, or fluoridated
back in those days they sucked down pure IQ juice straight from the teat.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:42:58 No.11380074 Report

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-no distractions
-healthy diet
-good sleep habits, going to bed when there's no light and waking up when there is
-probably did philosophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:52:32 No.11380090 Report

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>>11380029
things were still new and exciting then and you didn't need half a lifetime of studying to hope to contribute to mapping out terrain

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:59:43 No.11380101 Report

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>>11380029
It can basically be explained by these two statements

>Science has changed a lot since then
>The only way to know who will be the next Gauss is by going foward in time 200 years from now

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 20:07:29 No.11380113 Report

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>>11380038
99.999999% of people are aimless mediocrities that will never amount for anything.

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 20:23:10 No.11380148 Report

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>>11380090
Why do we just so happen to be at the special time in history when we've reached maximum development of math and science, when there is now too much prerequisite knowledge and specialization to hope to contribute any grand new ideas or to solve any unconquered problems? Why now? What imaginary threshold did we cross?

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Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 20:25:24 No.11380156 Report

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I think some geniuses picked up video games and computers instead of maths, just look at some of the things they find in speedrun etc…

covid 19 lol

covid 19 lol Wed 12 Feb 2020 20:30:00 No.11380164 Report

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>>11380029
>Why are there no more people like Gauss and Euler ?

math today is harder than math at those times, that's progress

>How does someone come up with something like this ?

Least action principle, generalization etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 12 Feb 2020 20:32:35 No.11380173 Report

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>>11380029
its not so difficult if you consider the functional approach which is what they did to get to the equation. also it was euler and lagrange, not gauss.

>>11380113
a majority of the time wasted is mostly spent by women and beta males on instagram and snapchat

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 06:49:51 No.11381432 Report

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>>11380029
fields have become professionalized. You spend your time grinding through tests and homework to get into a hyperspecialized area, like studying non-commutative rings for your whole career.

instead we should have a much thinner layer of general knowledge and encourage creativity and exploration. The neets need to take back academia from the careerists and promoters.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 06:58:49 No.11381463 Report

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>>11380029
School system is a drone fabric.

Creative people and neets are alienated from the system. Those with the potential of discovering shit are the lowest in the social scale.

Imagine what would happen if schools were happy places that promoted knowledge instead of doing irrelevant homework and exams.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 07:13:36 No.11381491 Report

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Analysis is an easy field, you can prove fundamental theorem of Calc in one A4 and teach it to high schoolers.

Proof of Fermat is 200 pages machine written.

Math's is too hard now, you won't find lone geniouses proving countless important theorems because they are too complex.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 07:18:26 No.11381495 Report

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>>11381463

You have to first learn the basics in order to be creative. School teaches both but people with no work ethic get filtered before they get a chance. As they should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 07:58:19 No.11381537 Report

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>>11380029
Via action principle. Like all the great things in science - its so simple, that if you see it once - its trivial. Thats why its so ingenious.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Feb 2020 08:28:50 No.11381573 Report

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>>11380029
This is just the equation for geodesics in configuration space. Like you'd get from saying energy is conserved, so you derive wrt time, but with the covariant derivative. Easy stuff.

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