>>11331222>Effective by what measure?It diminishes dysphoria, often to the point where it effectively disappears.
Meanwhile all repressors are miserable and try to cope by distracting themselves from the root of the problem or doing therapy which does nothing.
40% is the number of attempts, not completed suicides. Also the number is much lower among trannies who live in a supportive environment so the issue here is hostility and lack of support, not dysphoria per se.
>appeal to natureThere's nothing natural about drugs, surgeries or lifting which won't be useful in 99% of real life situations.
"Normality" (whatever that means) is irrelevant. Everything that happens frequently enough is normal. It's just a matter of social consensus.
>taking external female hormones into a male body. Estradiol valerate is bioidentical and human body have receptors that interact with both male and female sex hormones. Even your penis can (and does) run on estrogen.
>A man doing things to give the appearance that he's a biological woman is not normal and contradicts the claim that trannies don't think they're biological women.See above regarding normality.
As for the delusion part. Wanting to be like something which you are currently not isn't a sign of delusion, it's a fundamental building block of human psyche.
Just because the direction of your desire is unconventional doesn't make it a delusion.
>and demand that people see and treat them as women? Actually most trannies would be ok with just the latter. Or even less than that - just easy access to hrt and being left alone would be the holy grail.
