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Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 16:33:43 2020 No.11322723 View Reply Original Report

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How come whenever I eat vegetables, I always poop out undigested vegetables? Like spinach leaves or bits or carrot or bell peppers? Is my digestive system fucked?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 16:35:05 No.11322726 Report

Quoted By: >>11322797 >>11322802 >>11323142 >>11324629 >>11324638 >>11325178

>>11322723
Humans are obligate carnivores. It's not until the invention of agriculture that we started eating plants in anything besides starvation circumstances so our bodies literally aren't designed to digest them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:16:36 No.11322797 Report

Quoted By: >>11323141

>>11322726
Could it be because I’ve had an absolute trash diet since forever and so whenever I eat something that isn’t fast food or hot pockets my body doesn’t know how to digest it? Also my butt hole tingles like it has a scab after every poop

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:19:55 No.11322802 Report

Quoted By: >>11322814

>>11322726
>Humans are obligate carnivores

Prove it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:20:58 No.11322804 Report

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>>11322723
There’s something wrong with you,

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:22:10 No.11322805 Report

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>>11322723
Some animals eat their poo to get the nutrients they missed first time around, maybe you could try this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:24:14 No.11322810 Report

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do americans really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:26:48 No.11322814 Report

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>>11322802
Anthropology and biology. There's a reason meat tastes good and plants all taste like shit

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Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:33:24 No.11322823 Report

Quoted By: >>11322825 >>11323816 >>11325100 >>11326567

>>11322814
that's why we have all these teeth that are perfect for grinding plants and nuts into digestible pieces that carnivores lack... hmmm.
There's nothing wrong with you, op. Maybe chew more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:35:10 No.11322825 Report

Quoted By: >>11322843 >>11322846 >>11322993 >>11323296 >>11323446 >>11323476

>>11322823
Those are called vestigial organs. We also have an appendix for digesting rocks, that doesn't mean we're supposed to eat rocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:42:40 No.11322841 Report

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>>11322814
>Anthropology and biology.

Be specific. Prove your claim.

>There's a reason meat tastes good and plants all taste like shit

Something tasting good doesn’t mean you’re supposed to eat it, and you’re assuming it’s actually the case that “meat tastes good” and “plants all taste like shit”, as if your personal value judgements have empirical significance to anyone else. I can just assert the opposite and claim it as proof we’re biologically herbivorous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:43:44 No.11322843 Report

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>>11322825
>Those are called vestigial organs

You don’t know what vestigial organs are. Human dentition suggests carnivory in no way whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 17:44:56 No.11322846 Report

Quoted By: >>11323422 >>11323823 >>11326872

>>11322825
ok, the real proof that early humans were omnivores is that there is 0 way they could get enough energy to fuel their huge brains on hunted meat alone.
>Dietary quality has been shown to be correlated with brain size, in that folivorous (leaf-eating) primates have smaller brains, while primates who eat fruit and animal foods (insects, meat) generally have larger brains [56]. Similarly, members of the genus Homo would have had an even higher-quality diet than the Australopithecines by the incorporation of more underground storage organs (soft bulbs, tubers, etc) or the preferential consumption of animals. The reduced size of the face and grinding teeth of H. erectus, coupled with its more sophisticated tool technology, suggest that these hominids were consuming a higher-quality and more stable diet that would have helped to fuel the increases in brain size [45].
4chan won't let me link the article, but it's called "The evolutionary roles of nutrition selection and dietary quality in the human brain size and encephalization"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 18:48:13 No.11322993 Report

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>>11322825
> Humans are obligate carnivores.
> We also have an appendix for digesting rocks
Amerifat education.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 18:51:38 No.11323005 Report

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>>11322723
its normal
you are supposed to eat fibers unless you wanted to get diarrhea ofc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 19:47:57 No.11323141 Report

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>>11322797
>also my butt hole tingles like it has a scab after every poop
Not a medicfag but I'm guessing it's that means that the tissue lining in your rectum is tearing but it will heal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 19:48:01 No.11323142 Report

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>>11322726
None of this is correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 20:26:11 No.11323224 Report

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>>11322723
Humans don't produce cellulase thus you aren't able to breakdown cellulose. Its normal for you to have some bits left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 20:26:47 No.11323228 Report

Quoted By: >>11323242 >>11323253

>>11322723
Don't worry, plant matter is indigestible, as humans lack the enzymes or bacteria to break down cellulose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 20:31:53 No.11323242 Report

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>>11323228
>Plants are only cellulose

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 20:36:31 No.11323253 Report

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>>11323224
>>11323228
>>11323242
This depends on the type of vegetables OP is eating. Something like celery? Sure, there's a lot of fiber (cellulose) in there. Something more like broccoli? Not quite so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 20:54:01 No.11323286 Report

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>>11322723
You need to chew more before swallowing
>>11323224
>Humans don't produce cellulase
but your gut microbes can and you can absorb some of the volatile fatty acids produced

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 20:57:11 No.11323296 Report

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>>11322825
Only the wisdom teeth are vestigial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 21:58:24 No.11323422 Report

Quoted By: >>11323429 >>11323823

>>11322846
>there is 0 way they could get enough energy to fuel their huge brains on hunted meat alone.
I already said we could eat plants in times of starvation, they're just not healthy for you. Even your own quote says eating meat (animals) increases brain size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 22:00:41 No.11323429 Report

Quoted By: >>11323823

>>11323422
Eating better meat (ie deer not mice or insects), not eating a diet exclusively of meat. The diet also included fruits and tubers and probably nuts as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 22:17:22 No.11323446 Report

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>>11322825
>We also have an appendix for digesting rocks,
What??

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 22:32:28 No.11323476 Report

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>>11322825
Appendectomy survivor here. I'm going to go outside and eat a handful of gravel. One of you organ privileges anons do the same and let's compare bowel movements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Jan 2020 22:34:50 No.11323481 Report

Quoted By: >>11323681 >>11324647

>>11322723
That's normal. The main reason vegetables are considered "healthy" is because fat people can eat lots of them and won't get many calories out of them. We aren't ruminants and can't digest cellulose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 00:30:33 No.11323681 Report

Quoted By: >>11323756 >>11324644 >>11324647

>>11323481
>We aren't ruminants and can't digest cellulose.
Yes we can
Like ruminants, some humans have microbes in their guts that can break down cellulose
There is a whole lot of misinformation in this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 01:01:07 No.11323748 Report

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Chew your food you fucking subhuman and stop swallowing it whole like a duck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 01:06:20 No.11323756 Report

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>>11323681
>some humans
What percentage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 01:32:58 No.11323809 Report

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>>11322814
Plants don't taste like shit you retard. Also many poisonous mushrooms taste great. A lot of meats are fucking awful too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 01:35:17 No.11323816 Report

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>>11322823
Except humans cut and cook meat. Carnivore teeth are for killing and pulling apart an animal, human teeth are not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 01:37:35 No.11323823 Report

Quoted By: >>11324578

>>11322846
>>11323422
>>11323429
Yeah bro just eat veggies or fruits or meat, you totally won't become malnourished or deficient because you lack a balanced diet. Why don't retards understand just eating a bit of everything, as much variety as possible even, is best?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 01:41:12 No.11323827 Report

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You might have gut problems, your stomach uses bacteria to digest a lot of the dense material in plants and if you for instance take too heavy a course of antibiotics you can develop an intolerance. One of the treatments is a literal shit transplant to good luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 04:15:11 No.11324172 Report

Quoted By: >>11325341

>>11322723
My shit is the same way and my ass bleeds all the time. That's normal bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 04:17:50 No.11324179 Report

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>>11322723
You might have an actual digestive problem and should see a doctor. Did you always have a balanced diet or no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 04:47:27 No.11324253 Report

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>>11322723
Chew moar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 07:47:56 No.11324578 Report

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>>11323823
Shhh, don't challenge their world views. They can't handle it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 08:11:06 No.11324599 Report

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>>11322723
That picture makes me uncomfortable knowing it may not be sanitary to stick my face in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 08:26:57 No.11324622 Report

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OP switch to meat based diet now, stop eating vegetables dont spoil your digestive system even more

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 08:31:09 No.11324629 Report

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>>11322726
>WE WUZ CARNIVORES

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 08:36:45 No.11324638 Report

Quoted By: >>11325046

It's because your body (your gut bacteria, really) is not used to vegetables. If you slowly introduce them and eat them consistently you will be fine. Assuming you're not extremely unhealthy already, in which case you might just be fucked.

>>11322726
>human teeth are clearly different from any other teeth, although they resemble herbivore teeth by far the most
>humans have been cooking food for 1 million years or more
>retards still spout meme-diets because they want to believe they won't die from eating bullshit all day
Keep eating those steaks, big boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 08:40:57 No.11324644 Report

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>>11323681
>some humans have microbes in their guts that can break down cellulose
A very small amount of it can get broken down by bacteria after it's already made it to your colon which isn't the same thing as being able to actually digest it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 08:44:47 No.11324647 Report

Quoted By: >>11326071

>>11323481
>We aren't ruminants and can't digest cellulose.
>>11323681
>Yes we can
http://chemistry.elmhurst.edu/vchembook/547cellulose.html
>Humans are unable to digest cellulose because the appropriate enzymes to breakdown the beta acetal linkages are lacking. (More on enzyme digestion in a later chapter.) Undigestible cellulose is the fiber which aids in the smooth working of the intestinal tract.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose
>In human nutrition, cellulose is a non-digestible constituent of insoluble dietary fiber

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Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 14:26:11 No.11325046 Report

Quoted By: >>11325057 >>11325079

>>11324638
Human teeth do not resemble herbivore teeth in the slightest. They clearly have the morphology of omnivore teeth, appropriate for grinding both meat and vegetables. Pic related is a set of herbivore teeth. Note the grooves absent from your own set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 14:34:54 No.11325057 Report

Quoted By: >>11325073

>>11325046
>All herbivores is grazers
>Frugivory is fake

Be less obviously dishonest and compare human teeth to gorilla teeth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 14:48:42 No.11325073 Report

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>>11325057
Eat only fruit and see how long you live. Gorillas are not strict herbivores either. They often eat bugs. Same with chimps, who even go as far as to eat meat. Great apes are adapted for a flexible diet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 14:54:35 No.11325079 Report

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>>11323296
>>11325046
This is because we self evolved to eat softer cooked foods. We have underbite and "weaker" chin than ancestors who had to crack seeds and rip off raw meat. They had more room and teeth lapped into grinders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 15:07:19 No.11325100 Report

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>>11322823
>Human (Homo)

never fails to make me snicker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 15:50:03 No.11325178 Report

Quoted By: >>11325305

>>11322726
I too can make up random nonsense and pretend like it's a fact

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 16:54:32 No.11325305 Report

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>>11325178
Prove it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 17:14:38 No.11325336 Report

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>>11322723
you probably have a fucked gut microbiome due to your shitty diet
fiber digestion is done by gut bacteria, not you
gradually increase consumption of vegetables and other plants until good bacteria spreads in your gut
and keep at it or they'll starve to death and you'll be back to square 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 17:19:58 No.11325341 Report

Quoted By: >>11325359

>>11324172
>my ass bleeds all the time. That's normal bro.
fucking lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 17:25:11 No.11325351 Report

Quoted By: >>11325354

>>11322723
because plants have a lot of dietary fiber. dietary fiber is literally any part of a food you eat that is indigestible. how has this not come up yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 17:26:57 No.11325354 Report

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>>11325351
Fiber makes awesome turds. I shit twice a day and it’s always thick, silky snakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 17:28:49 No.11325359 Report

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>>11322723
This Anon >>11325341 is just trying to mess with us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 18:06:57 No.11325436 Report

Quoted By: >>11325443

I feel like this OP is a troll and his picture isn't actually shit but some other stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 18:08:57 No.11325443 Report

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>>11325436
That's barbecue. You don't know what shit looks like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 22:58:05 No.11326071 Report

Quoted By: >>11326906

>>11324647
Your sources are outdated
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3463488/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20662929
https://academic.oup.com/femsec/article/74/1/205/2680467
Took 2 seconds to google

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Jan 2020 22:58:50 No.11326076 Report

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Just eat shit, and you'll shit shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2020 03:12:06 No.11326567 Report

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>>11322823
>homo
i aint homo u faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2020 06:40:04 No.11326872 Report

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>>11322846
That's dumb because fat is the most energy-dense macronutrient and there was a lot more animal fat to go around than plant fats (pretty much only nuts). You can theorize all you want what humans were designed to eat but isotope analyses of carbon/nitrogen/strontium are so accurate we can even tell when a baby is weened off of breast milk. Yes, there were humans that lived off of only animal products back then (just like there are today).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2020 06:42:23 No.11326876 Report

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>>11322723
Retardation of this thread aside, it means you aren't producing adequate stomach acid, and you aren't chewing well enough. Your live and gallbladder aren't functioning properly. You might have a pinched nerve, very stressed, who knows. A doctor probably can't tell you either. Google low stomach acid. And no, drinking vinegar for the rest of your life isn't a solution... try fasting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2020 07:02:32 No.11326902 Report

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>>11322723
Some types of plant/veggie material and fibers are not able to dissolve in the human gut because we don't have the physiology for it.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2020 07:06:46 No.11326906 Report

Quoted By: >>11326909

>>11326071
People can get up to maybe 8% of calories from bacterially fermented cellulose, which becomes short chain fatty acids.

So this creates a dilemma

> Fat is bad for you

> But fiber is turned into fat in the digestive system and then absorbed. So fiber is basically fat. [also ruminants are basically on a keto diet from the fat made in their gut].

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Jan 2020 07:11:04 No.11326909 Report

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>>11326906
>fat is bad
Are we in the seventies again?

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