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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 05:10:11 2020 No.11288191 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11288195

I don't know if I can do it, /sci. I want to study math in uni, I'm so fucking interested, but I just think I'm too stupid. I sit at a 121-125 on the WAIS IV, but a 107 on the Stanford_Binet. I score 120 on most random online IQ tests, which probably means nothing. I just can't help the intellectual insecurity crushing my urge to continue to study. I'm working at the Khan academy content to prepare for a bridging course, but the anxiety and dread associated with my own lack of innate intellectual capacity is horrifically depressing. I can't focus, I can't enjoy study that I was enjoying a day ago. Am I doomed because I have a shitty IQ? Is it over before I even begin it? I don't want to bother pursuing something I'm inevitably going to fail at due to genetic handicaps. Anyone else know this feel? Anyone else pushed through it succesfully? I don't know what to do. I feel lost.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:12:17 No.11288195 Report

Quoted By: >>11288202

>>11288191
Nigga, IQ is fucking BULLSHIT. Just apply yourself and you will be fine. Do you like math? Then by all means study it. Your success is proportional to the effort you put into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:14:52 No.11288202 Report

Quoted By: >>11288225

>>11288195
What if someone were to try in earnest, with all their might to master introductory pure math material and failed their exams, failed their classes, and had to retake those courses only to earn abysmal passing grades with no prospects to gain entry to a decent graduate program? Would you say they were successful at becoming a mathematician? Is the mere existence of a degree in math earned by the skin of your teeth that leaves you demoralized and doubtful at your own intelligence, embarrassed at overreaching an accomplishment you feel comfortable encouraging? Serious question, I have no idea how people feel at peace with themselves saying this to strangers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:28:53 No.11288225 Report

Quoted By: >>11288228

>>11288202
Then do something else with your life, I dont really give a shit. But do you like math? Then continue. I dont care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:31:44 No.11288228 Report

Quoted By: >>11288237

>>11288225
Not OP, I'm asking you and anyone else who thinks like you why you say what you do to strangers without regard for possible limits to cognitive performance in highly intellectually demanding activities like undergrad and graduate mathematics. I have no interest in being a mathematician myself but this question has bothered me for a while now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:43:37 No.11288237 Report

Quoted By: >>11288242

>>11288228
What the fuck is your question

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:46:37 No.11288242 Report

Quoted By: >>11288247

>>11288237
Do you believe that sheer effort and tenacity can overcome hard limits to a person's intellect? More specifically mathematics is almost universally considered one of the most difficult subjects one can study, it is often the reason many people hate school; would you say that random people on the street can complete a mathematics undergraduate education with just effort?

The response you gave to the OP seemed to imply that this was what you were implying, that effort and desire were enough without regard for ability. Being honest I think that its possible for many moderately bright people to accomplish that task but that they would neither enjoy the experience nor have any hope of doing research at the graduate level.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:50:33 No.11288247 Report

Quoted By: >>11288286

>>11288242
>Do you believe that sheer effort and tenacity can overcome hard limits to a person's intellect?
I honestly believe sheer effort and tenacity can accomplish a whole fucking lot. Obviously natural talent and intelligence is important. But effort is equally if not more important.
>More specifically mathematics is almost universally considered one of the most difficult subjects one can study
Is it?
>would you say that random people on the street can complete a mathematics undergraduate education with just effort?
People who do complete math undergrads are "random people off the street"
>that effort and desire were enough without regard for ability
Like I said, effort and desire get you very far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:10:01 No.11288285 Report

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Attitude and work ethics, as well as motivation/passion are really important imo. I dont want to sound like an asshole, but you're making excuses before even joining university. So I really dont know what to tell you. Yes, you could get a bachelor's, and yes I bet you could get it with a solid B at least. I have no idea for a master's and above, my guess is you don't really know what you're headed into and what you want. But, if you really think you like math and want to give it a go, then go ahead and do it. If you realize that it's not working out, dont be a negative retard. You may just not like it as much as you thought you did and that's it. In which case, change programs but don't overthink it.

I'll be honest, by reading your post, my opinion is you wouldn't succeed. And it has frankly nothing to do with the IQ you claim. It has everything to do with an obviously really shitty attitude that may not be apparent to you but is from a third person's point of view. You sound like the students who get Ds and blame it on retarded shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:10:04 No.11288286 Report

Quoted By: >>11288288

>>11288247
People who complete mathematics undergraduate educations and go on to study pure math at good graduate programs are already selected for abnormally high intelligence. They're nothing like a random individual grabbed off the street in a city or supermarket.
>effort is equally or more important
when talent is relatively equal among a group of people yes effort wins out more often than not. When there is an unequal distribution of talent this seems to fail to hold. Look at business and athletics, lots of effort invested by prospective winners but mostly losers and people who drop out before they can fail spectacularly.
>is it
Sure. Look at standardized test scores, the worse someone's economic background the more likely they are to do absolutely abysmal at mathematics. Math is associated with high intelligence because it requires high intelligence, most stupid questions on this board are about trivial problems assigned in math classes. That should indicate to you that math is widely regarded as a painful obscure subject to be avoided and feared. Perhaps those people have a reason to be afraid of doing math and being judged for their performance? Feedback that regulates one's right to participate in an activity is different from passive engagement with that activity; you don't get to learn at your own pace but have to meet standards or face losing time, money, confidence.

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Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:11:05 No.11288288 Report

Quoted By: >>11288292

>>11288286
whatever. have fun not doing math

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:13:08 No.11288292 Report

Quoted By: >>11288297

>>11288288
I'm not OP and I don't have an interest in doing mathematics for the rest of my life, I just wanted to hear your argument for the position you've espoused and that I've seen others espouse here and irl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:14:40 No.11288297 Report

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>>11288292
What argument

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