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Scientific Concensus Has Been Tainted

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 18:44:22 2020 No.11287119 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11287154 >>11287210 >>11287244 >>11287592 >>11287593 >>11287605 >>11288263 >>11288278

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39054778
What now? If the scientific community cannot even trust itself, then how can we trust them? Who can we trust? Who can we appeal to for truth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 19:00:38 No.11287154 Report

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>>11287119
>Who can we appeal to for truth?

people who do real experiments and have everything documented with videos and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 19:06:36 No.11287163 Report

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>>11287154
How many scientists actually do that, though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 19:35:20 No.11287210 Report

Quoted By: >>11287237

>>11287119
Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 19:48:40 No.11287229 Report

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> replicate muh big bank

Jesus

Jesus Wed 08 Jan 2020 19:51:46 No.11287237 Report

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>>11287210
Yes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 19:55:30 No.11287244 Report

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>>11287119
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51039555
How does one incentivise actual science because publish or perish and chasing impactfactor inevitably encourages a bias for data manipulation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 22:39:44 No.11287592 Report

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>>11287119
How lovely, the social sciences and medicine are absolute rubbish, with only a few people doing actual scientific inquiry. Physics has been stagnant for the last 30 years. Theoretical CS hasn't seen any nice advances in at least 20, with the Machine Learning fucknuts only achieving shit because of greater computing power, which is also about to end. Related to them we have Data "science" that make statistical models of data or use ML to predict outcomes for observed phenomena, no theory construction whatsoever.
At least biology has a small community of theoreticians working with the complexity people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 22:41:45 No.11287593 Report

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>>11287119
>Who can we appeal to for truth?
G-d

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 22:51:31 No.11287605 Report

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>>11287119
>Who can we trust?
No one, not even yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 23:31:11 No.11287657 Report

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>>11287163
Only a very small fraction. So what? Are you so hungry for """truth""" that you need a large orthodoxy to give it to you? Trust only those actually putting in the work and give no credence to anyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Jan 2020 23:36:20 No.11287662 Report

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>>11287593
you're not far off, much of our success was driven or founded by men with a religious to find the truth as a form of worship.
it goes back to the benedictines with their sense of duty to preserve the works of rome

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 05:58:15 No.11288263 Report

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>>11287119
there are facts. then there is bullshit people push because they want to jerk off their ego.
everything that is a fact should be trusted.
literally anything that isn't shouldn't even be wasted listening to

El Arcón

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El Arcón Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:02:03 No.11288271 Report

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>>11287244
>How does one incentivise actual science
Strap a sword to your side and slay the infidel wherever you might find him.

>>11287592
>Physics has been stagnant for the last 30 years.
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 09 Jan 2020 06:05:55 No.11288278 Report

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>>11287119
>Who can we appeal to for truth?
Truth? If you want truth, engage in philosophy or theology. Science never cared about what's true or not.

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