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sum of positive integers is a NEGATIVE FRACTION

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 16:29:02 2019 No.11204583 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11204619 >>11204649 >>11204676 >>11204796 >>11204842 >>11205204 >>11205298

This is why mathematicians are derided by engineers and those that work in the real world. What utter nonsense.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:41:38 No.11204610 Report

Quoted By: >>11204618 >>11204636

>he doesn't know what Ramanujan summation is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:46:09 No.11204618 Report

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>>11204610
>He doesn't know that Ramanujan summation was invented by the celestial entity # three and not Ramanujan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:46:21 No.11204619 Report

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>>11204583
that numberphile (((proof))) is sophistry

sum of any number of positive integers cannot be negative, nor can the sum of an infinite series consisting only of positive integers equal anything, only approach, and only positive infinity at that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:49:17 No.11204628 Report

Quoted By: >>11204651 >>11205203

The worst part is that this fabricated method of addition is what they use in the Riemann hypothesis (also made by 3) which makes it harder for people to solve the problem because nobody can figure out what batshit insane methods they are using to add the numbers together!

The zeroes of the Riemann zeta function are completely arbitrary and also based on horseshit analytic additions that are not intuitive either, which makes it difficult to even understand what people want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:51:47 No.11204636 Report

Quoted By: >>11204643 >>11204778

>>11204610
Think I'll trust Euler over this pajeet. While physicists are discovering new particles and engineers keep pace with Moore's law, you drooling retards are sitting around masturbating over this crap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:54:06 No.11204643 Report

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>>11204636

Math is based though and besides all of Ramanujan's work was made by his African celestial family entity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:55:08 No.11204646 Report

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>>11204643
That is #3.
And there it is lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:55:41 No.11204649 Report

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>>11204583
Ah, but you see, there are no negative, nor rational, numbers in the natural numbers. So this is false.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:56:36 No.11204651 Report

Quoted By: >>11204653 >>11204656 >>11204662

>>11204628
For a moment I thought this was a Tooker post. If you are not diagnozed, you should go to a psychiatrist to see how terminal your schizophrenia is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:58:51 No.11204653 Report

Quoted By: >>11204656

>>11204651
I went to a psychiatrist years ago and they said I don't have anything wrong with me. I think you're just a stupid cuck on the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 16:59:53 No.11204656 Report

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>>11204653
Thanks for the 3.
>>11204651
Even Ramanujan believed this shit he is literally the one who said that a female celestial entity was giving him his problems and solutions. Shut up, what math equations have you discovered, you dumb ass hole fuck? I've never seen your equations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:00:55 No.11204658 Report

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>>11204656
Thanks three for being nice to my posts now.
Thanks for the timestamp 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:03:55 No.11204662 Report

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>>11204651

Tooker is a real schizophrenic I am not.

I am just religious dude.

Scientists mix up religion with schizophrenia too often, be more tolerant my atheist poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:05:13 No.11204668 Report

Quoted By: >>11204670

Ramanujan was assassinated by 3 as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:06:14 No.11204670 Report

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>>11204668

Thanks for the timestamp 3...

Lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:09:51 No.11204676 Report

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>>11204583
Sum of positive integers diverges to positive infinity. But zeta function of negative 1 is -1/12.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:15:11 No.11204684 Report

Quoted By: >>11204686

>"Why, yes, I DO believe that the celestial entities are indeed real, what gave it away?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:16:13 No.11204686 Report

Quoted By: >>11204757

>>11204684

Thanks for the 4 lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:42:56 No.11204755 Report

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Yeah the proof is retarded based on set theory alone. Only one of the two can be true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:43:13 No.11204757 Report

Quoted By: >>11204762

>>11204686
your girlfriend does not exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:45:22 No.11204762 Report

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>>11204757

Thanks for the timestamp 3 you soulless freak...

Keep repeating yourself and maybe you'll be right one of these days, just kidding you'll never be right and you never were right to doubt me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:49:55 No.11204778 Report

Quoted By: >>11204788

>>11204636
Euler worked with divergent series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:53:51 No.11204788 Report

Quoted By: >>11204800

>>11204778
Yes, and he noted that the sum of this series is infinite

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:57:27 No.11204796 Report

Quoted By: >>11204819 >>11205193 >>11205297

>>11204583
Brainlet here. Can't a simple induction proof disprove this? I.e.
>1 + 2 -> pos int + pos int
>sum of two pos numbers is always pos
>sum of two ints is always int
>each next pos int in Z added still creates a pos int
>sum will never not be positive, never not be an int
I'm sure this can be stated in a more appropriately formal manner, but the logic is simple right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 17:59:41 No.11204800 Report

Quoted By: >>11204833

>>11204788
>He noted that the sum of a divergent series is infinite
Of course divergent series diverge and can be said to be “infinite” in that sense, brainlet, that doesn’t tell us anything about their regularization.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 18:00:25 No.11204802 Report

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>be me
>bcmb squeeb
>robots on 4chan talking about Ramadan math
>mfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 18:05:04 No.11204819 Report

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>>11204796
This result, the -1/12, is about analytic continuation that only makes sense in the context of something called the Riemann Zeta function. Think of the result similar to "peeking under the hood" of numbers, but it shouldn't be treated as logically correct outside of the Riemann Zeta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 18:10:38 No.11204833 Report

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>>11204800
>1/-1 > 1/0
Nah, this is just nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 18:15:26 No.11204842 Report

Quoted By: >>11205359

>>11204583
>This is why mathematicians are derided by engineers and those that work in the real world.
kek what? Who the fuck needs the approval of engiefags in the first place? They're some of the lowest tier scum among STEM, other than CS, and literally just leech their entire work of the theoretic sciences, then bitch and whine when their puny brains can't comprehend actually beautiful mathematics and logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 21:30:57 No.11205193 Report

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>>11204796
Induction doesn't extend well to infinite cases.

~S/$\S~

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~S/$\S~ Fri 06 Dec 2019 21:34:39 No.11205203 Report

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>>11204628
>difficult to even understand what people want.
That right there. I know what I want all the damn time and I'm fine with working with anything/anyone of any religion/race/retardation in order to help them get it as well.

However everytime I try to give them shit it's like they've never encountered someone who is willing to just SOLVE their problem without needing the fame/fortune. As soon as I get there though their brains melt and they can't seem to be able to actually honesty/directly describe THEIR problem.

Do people REALLY not think about themselves or how to optimize their time, or how to trim/reduce the people who are just time-leeches in their life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 21:34:59 No.11205204 Report

Quoted By: >>11205283

>>11204583
I've heard this being described as sort of a number trick that is not presented as it actually is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 22:03:19 No.11205283 Report

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>>11205204
The numberphile version relies on illegal manipulations of a divergent sum. Associativity and commutativity don't in general hold for divergent series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 22:07:52 No.11205297 Report

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>>11204796
No, the statement is about an infinite sum, for which you need a metric, which is defined on the reals, which is an uncountable infinite set the members of which are sets, for which you usually take strong set theory axioms to write it down

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 22:07:58 No.11205298 Report

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>>11204583
Reminder that Quantum Field Theory and String Theory depends on this voodoo mathematics

Yeah just a "renormalisation"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Dec 2019 22:28:35 No.11205359 Report

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>>11204842
I'm going to build a bridge over the math building so you troglodytes can dwell underneath

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