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Change my mind (pro-tip you can’t)

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 19:37:49 2019 No.11183961 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11184208 >>11184214 >>11184220 >>11184272 >>11184406 >>11185308 >>11185330 >>11185445 >>11185458 >>11187092

Unmeasurable sets don’t exist in math. If you believe in them, you are studying metaphysics not math.
Having said that, real numbers do exist because I can construct them.
>Wilberger BTFO
>AOCfags BTFO

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 21:15:29 No.11184208 Report

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>>11183961
My Calc II profossor (one of the smartest dudes I know) agreed with your post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 21:17:16 No.11184214 Report

Quoted By: >>11184257

>>11183961
Asserting a contradiction to AOC doesn't argue AOC is not a reasonable axiom to have in our model of maths in the real universe. Come up with an axiom set and argue why it's better.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 21:22:36 No.11184220 Report

Quoted By: >>11184257

>>11183961
I just hope the bridges in my city arent dependent on the axiom of choice. other than that Idgaf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 21:44:08 No.11184257 Report

Quoted By: >>11184270

>>11184214
I don’t have to. They already exist. ZF+DC gets you almost everything I just listed.
Also, if you’re suggesting any reasonable approximation if reality is an admissible axiom then you actually are practicing metaphysics.
>>11184220
Engineering isn’t dependent on any of this, really.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 21:56:21 No.11184270 Report

Quoted By: >>11184392

>>11184257
>reasonable approximation of reality -> axiom implies metaphysics
No nigger, it's called physics. Also, had you bothered to learn set theory, you'd know that CC, which is weaker than DC, still vomits conclusions that would offend your homosexual brand of korean basketweaving autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 21:57:02 No.11184272 Report

Quoted By: >>11184392

>>11183961
It's a Gödel-type situation, dummy. You can choose to assume theor existence and get some theorems out or choose for them not to exist and get other theorems.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 22:56:31 No.11184392 Report

Quoted By: >>11185200

>>11184270
No, those conclusions don’t offend me. And physics isn’t based on axiomatic reasoning alone either. Had you bothered to learn some method you’d know that.
>>11184272
>Gödel
Here we go. Someone’s going to draw way too many conclusions from Gödel because popsci

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 23:02:39 No.11184406 Report

Quoted By: >>11185084

>>11183961
All math is meta. That's the whole reason its exists, anon.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 05:12:44 No.11185084 Report

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>>11184406
I never took a math class in “meta.” I took a philosophy class in that, but not mato

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 06:14:12 No.11185200 Report

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>>11184392
>popsci
No, you're just incompetent with the use of axioms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 07:27:38 No.11185308 Report

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>>11183961
How do you measure subsets of the set of all linear operators?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 07:45:09 No.11185330 Report

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>>11183961
You are a nigger.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:11:25 No.11185445 Report

Quoted By: >>11185467

>>11183961
can you construct pi?

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:19:14 No.11185458 Report

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>>11183961
Define "exist"

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 09:29:15 No.11185467 Report

Quoted By: >>11185505

>>11185445
Yes

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 10:12:51 No.11185505 Report

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>>11185467
how do you construct pi and how do you define construction?

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****WARNING**** ****WARNING**** ****NOT A DRILL**** Fri 29 Nov 2019 10:25:09 No.11185520 Report

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https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-infinite-optimism-of-physicist-david-deutsch/

>Horgan: What worries you most about the world today?

>Deutsch: Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of people with evil ideologies. And the lack of any plan – indeed the systematic stigmatization of all plans – to defend people from them.

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS WE CAN'T LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #metoo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2019 04:20:49 No.11187092 Report

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>>11183961
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