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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 22:40:55 2019 No.11181678 View Reply Original Report

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Thoughts on hypothetically using psilocybin to perform a personality flush for self improvement?

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 22:42:53 No.11181683 Report

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>>11181678
does she step on me with her bare feet too

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Anonymous Wed 27 Nov 2019 22:45:06 No.11181686 Report

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>>11181678
Sounds dumb, unironically just be yourself.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:34:46 No.11182993 Report

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:36:28 No.11182995 Report

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>>11181678
Ah yes this shitty image again, haven't seen it a billion times already.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:36:52 No.11182997 Report

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>>11181678
>another roastie postie

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:39:48 No.11183001 Report

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>>11182997
Frog posts are just as bad.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:44:58 No.11183014 Report

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To be fair, /sci/ itself has giant roastie banner ads today

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:53:47 No.11183025 Report

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>>11183001
nope. roast posts are cancer, pepe and apu are based.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 17:29:20 No.11183658 Report

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>>11182993
That fucking movie...

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 17:38:14 No.11183676 Report

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That's now how it works. If you go into it with that in mind you are just going to come out deluded as to what everything around you is.You'll be the exact same asshole, but with a new excuse to be that asshole.

Instead try going into psilocybin with a mindset of self improvement and the intent to identify the roots of your problems. Remember that there isn't a reset button on life, you can only hope to change yourself.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Nov 2019 17:48:28 No.11183695 Report

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>>11181678
>using psilocybin to perform a personality flush for self improvement?
From my experience with psychedelics and from interacting a lot with this community:
-If you try to improve yourself through psychedelic enlightenment, you will just end up being the same piece of shit, with similar personality, but with new excuses to justify it. You might realize after a few years that you have achieve nothing.

-If you approach with an open but critic mind, you might experience some new interesting concepts. This new concepts might push you to discover more intro culture/science/art. After a few years, you might realize that psychedelics will give you the kick to explore new horizon. Through this process, you might slightly become a better person

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 00:43:32 No.11184574 Report

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>>11183001
plebs its all about smug 2d anime girls.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 00:50:01 No.11184589 Report

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I bet I could beat her to death with my bare hands in under 5 minutes. It wouldn't even be a challenge.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 02:20:24 No.11184750 Report

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>>11181678
there are no magical solutions, the change you need to improve yourself is learn to accept that hard work takes discipline and that the changes it provides are slow and almost exclusively much much less than wed want.

but sure, go ahead and be an uneducated idiot. youll be a drug addict on top of a loser

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 02:21:10 No.11184751 Report

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>>11182997
This.
>>11183001
Wrong.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 02:32:20 No.11184768 Report

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>>11181678
It won't make you cis

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 02:39:04 No.11184780 Report

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>>11181678
That's pretty much what psychedelics are for, yes.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320373653_Psilocybin_for_treatment-resistant_depression_FMRI-measured_brain_mechanisms
>In the present study, we saw increased within-DMN RSFC post treatment with psilocybin, and increased vmPFC-bilateral ilPC RSFC was predictive of treatment response at 5 weeks (Fig. 3). These findings suggest a commonality in the antidepressant action of ECT and psilocybin39 in which DMN integrity is decreased acutely (at least by the latter14,15,28) and increased (or normalised) post-acutely, accompanied by improvements in mood. This process might be likened to a ‘reset’ mechanism in which acute modular disintegration (e.g. in the DMN) enables a subsequent re-integration and resumption of normal functioning.
Dissociatives and electroconvulsive therapy have that same sort of reset functionality. It almost doesn't even matter what the altered state is as long as you have an altered state that's strong enough to radically distance you from how your brain's been operating. Then when the acute effects of the drugs or procedure you've gone through have died down your brain goes back to operating in some default state that's probably better than whichever maladaptive vicious cycle of brain activity you were stuck in beforehand.
Interestingly electroconvulsive therapy is in effect giving you a seizure, and epileptics also have a sort of reset experience they report following the seizures they go through. Also NMDA antagonism has some neuroprotective properties and is thought to be something that happens naturally in the brain in response to excitotoxicity. And traditionally defined dissociatives are NMDA antagonists. So there's probably some safe mode / reset mechanism the brain has that these drugs / therapies are reproducing. Also preemptive fuck you to anyone who complains I made a brain / computer analogy. Yes, I know brains are different from computers.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 02:53:43 No.11184799 Report

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>>11181678
No dude just start acting right. You can choose to do it right now

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Anonymous Fri 29 Nov 2019 02:58:58 No.11184810 Report

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>>11181678
>giving yourself excuse to be a drug-slinging degenerate rather than improving yourself
Just eat the damn things, dumbass. We know your fried brain just wants a 'high' and you won't be looking for any self-improvement whatsoever.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2019 01:40:12 No.11186886 Report

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>>11181678
It allows you to walk in the ways you never did before, can be dangerous...

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2019 02:38:40 No.11186972 Report

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>>11181678
How? It's widely assumed that psychedelic drugs makes one's psyche malleable and capable of being reshaped, but if you have any proposal as to how to accomplish this in a deliberate manner, I'd love to hear it.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2019 02:58:28 No.11187001 Report

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>>11184780
>treatment-resistant_depression
are these random assholes stuck in dead end jobs or women in the back of state hospitals with disfigured wrists?

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2019 03:00:47 No.11187004 Report

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>>11183658
What movie?

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Anonymous Sat 30 Nov 2019 03:06:36 No.11187009 Report

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>>11184780
also
>Dissociatives and electroconvulsive therapy have that same sort of reset functionality. It almost doesn't even matter what the altered state is as long as you have an altered state that's strong enough to radically distance you from how your brain's been operating
that literally takes months to years when it comes to major depression, thats what most think what anti-depressants do in people with actual major depression, the brain gets flooded with enough serotonin or dopamine to stave off secondary induced effects of psycho-motor retardation and an overstressed shrunken hippocampus slowly regaining brain matter, its also the cause of suicide attempts from patients who are extremely sad who cant even put their clothes on or get out of bed without exerting strenuous energy magically having the actual energy enough to go out and kill themselves

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