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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 14:47:12 2019 No.11145883 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11145901 >>11147875 >>11148435 >>11148464 >>11148508 >>11148557 >>11148833

If every single atom has its own gravity with infinite range then wouldn't the Sun of everyother solar system in the universe be minutely affecting every motion reading? Is that their cope explanation for why they can't accurately predict any object's motion at all?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 14:55:48 No.11145901 Report

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>>11145883
because the force from a single atoms gravity is hella weak. the point of since is to come up with models that predict reality, not arrive at absolute truth. it turns out we can neglect the gravity of, say, pluto and still have an accurate model of motion in the neighborhood of earth.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 23:30:57 No.11147231 Report

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Yes, but we ignore it.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 03:10:06 No.11147875 Report

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>>11145883
Think of the combined effect of everything outside the system we're interested in as background noise; overall, things tend to average out and only marginally affect our system

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 04:34:24 No.11148094 Report

Quoted By: >>11148507

look, it's /pol/ being retarded and blaming others because he can't grasp basic concepts yet again.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 07:30:01 No.11148435 Report

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>>11145883
The study of chaos - systems with sensitive dependence on initial conditions - conceded that effects as minute as what you describe matter. Before uncovering chaos as a discipline, scientists assumed that the gravitational effect of a leaf falling on some distant planet needn't be taken into account for experiments in a lab. But if you have a sufficiently unstable system, such as a double pendulum, you absolutely must take these effects into consideration!

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 07:44:46 No.11148464 Report

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>>11145883
>Is that their cope explanation for why they can't accurately predict any object's motion at all?
Badly non-linear chaotic behaviour is part and parsel of many physical systems that are deterministic. Our inability to do shit like model fluid flow and the weather well is simply an inherent property of PDE's describing them, not of some problem in our understanding of physics.

Gravitational effects from objects outside the solar system arent significant enough to affect almost all measurements that we take. It takes state of the art technology to detect shit like gravitational waves.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 08:16:20 No.11148507 Report

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>>11148094
>rent free
Nothing about this thread is even remotely/pol/. Are you okay bb?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 08:17:18 No.11148508 Report

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>>11145883
The inverse square law means that a gravity source, like light, gets exponentially weaker the further you go from Earth. The stars, say, 13 billion light years away would have a negligible influence on motion of a particle on earth and that effect would be off set anyway by the ones on the other side of the universe, as has already been said. So no, people in the field are not using such a non-starter idea to explain the mysteries of QM, as about 10 seconds of research would have revealed.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 08:22:21 No.11148516 Report

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>>11148508
I think quantized force carriers may also mean that as you increase range, the chance of literally NO interaction from a given source increases. So in general there wouldn't even be an exponentially weaker force, just no interaction at all

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 08:44:23 No.11148552 Report

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>>11148507
Have you even looked at the image?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 08:48:14 No.11148557 Report

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>>11145883
Implying the blatant misinformation of britebart is equivalent to the generally balanced reporting of the BBC

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 10:51:11 No.11148710 Report

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>>11148552
Clearly OP was using the image as a placeholder so he could discuss something, or else he would have said generic /pol/ shitpost #5

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 11:17:14 No.11148746 Report

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>>11148552
Ever heard of pic not related? Yeah, now go back to your country pls

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 11:24:18 No.11148757 Report

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>>11148508
>exponentially weaker
quadratically

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 11:38:36 No.11148770 Report

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>>11148552
Have you? It clearly and correctly critiques both sides of this artificial political divide. Nevar forget western governments created the arab spring with fake tweets from their twitterbot army. They want that here too you fuckwit, or is your head so far up some "news" organization's rectum you can't see shit because you have corn in your eyes?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 11:42:28 No.11148777 Report

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>>11148770
>They want that here too
Sure, schizo.
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 12:27:33 No.11148831 Report

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>>11148777
He doesn't think governments and intelligence agencies astroturf the opinions they want people to have on the internet, how cute.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 12:29:57 No.11148833 Report

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>>11145883
>If every single atom has its own gravity with infinite range then wouldn't the Sun of everyother solar system in the universe be minutely affecting every motion reading?

Negligible to the point of undetectability and practical irrelevance.

> Is that their cope explanation for why they can't accurately predict any object's motion at all?

We can accurately predict the motion of all objects with relativity and Newton’s laws of motion.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 12:31:13 No.11148834 Report

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>>11148831
>Muh conspiracy with no evidence

How cute. Just kidding, it’s gross.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 12:40:41 No.11148842 Report

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>>11148834
>propaganda doesn't exist
Retard

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 12:46:02 No.11148849 Report

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>>11148842
>You said propaganda doesn’t exist even though you actually didn’t so this is just a Strawman lie

Yawn.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 12:56:27 No.11148863 Report

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>>11148849
It's what you implied, retard. Keep believing everything you see is organic.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Nov 2019 17:55:13 No.11149366 Report

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>>11148863
>It's what you implied

You can believe that if you like.

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