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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 15:42:42 2019 No.11139577 View Reply Original Report

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Does refraining from porn or masturbation really have positive effects on men?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 15:45:02 No.11139582 Report

Quoted By: >>11139588 >>11139591 >>11139620

>>11139577
>Measure all the time you spend in a week studying and browsing porn
>Imagine how much more you could learn if you spent it studying or learning new skills

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 15:46:27 No.11139586 Report

Quoted By: >>11139760

For me it did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 15:47:29 No.11139587 Report

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>>11139577
that graph is amazing. no error bars, absolute garbage fit. Do people actually believe random excel graphs like they are substantial information?

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 15:47:49 No.11139588 Report

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>>11139582
>studying and browsing porn
Do you take fucking notes or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 15:51:09 No.11139591 Report

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>>11139582
It's more than just the time spent on pornography. It's how it makes you unmotivated thereafter and in a haze so you don't accomplish anything for a solid day after doing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:00:00 No.11139620 Report

Quoted By: >>11139631

>>11139582
As opposed to playing games and watching silly Youtube videos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:00:27 No.11139622 Report

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>>11139577
Pretty sure you peak at 7 days

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:01:29 No.11139628 Report

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>>11139588
Only when writing notes on the greatest flexes in porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:03:49 No.11139631 Report

Quoted By: >>11139639 >>11144130

>>11139620
At least these stimulate your prefrontal cortex whereas sexual arousal subdues this region entirely, by evolutionary design, to ensure procreation ensues no matter how irrational, foolish or risky it may be. The more you indulge pornography, the more this is set off, and the less inhibitory control you have over the process.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:06:03 No.11139639 Report

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>>11139631
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:16:31 No.11139653 Report

Quoted By: >>11139691 >>11139773 >>11140308

>>11139639
>Pornographic picture processing interferes with working memory performance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23167900

>Sexual Arousal Decreases the Functional Synchronization Between Cortical Areas in Young Men
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2012.665815?journalCode=usmt20

>The Impact of Sexual Arousal on Sexual Risk-Taking and Decision-Making in Men and Women.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26310879

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:31:06 No.11139691 Report

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>>11139653
....it goes away pretty quickly after, you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:35:08 No.11139699 Report

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>>11139577
>The 7 days meme
>The free energy meme
>The chakra meme
>

When your only sources are retarded memes, you have your answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 16:58:11 No.11139750 Report

Quoted By: >>11139773

>>11139691
Then you're left with higher levels of prolactin and a mind filled with sexual thoughts which again makes you gravitate toward behaviors that garner time again and again leading to maladaptive habitual behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 17:01:47 No.11139760 Report

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>>11139586
Placebo retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 17:10:11 No.11139773 Report

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>>11139750
Pure bullshit. I fap when I want and do other shit when I want. You don't get "a mind filled with sexual thoughts" you 1800 century christ-tard.

>>11139653
Oh jee! If you masturbate instead of studying you will do worse with your studies, who would have thought!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 18:50:08 No.11140008 Report

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>>11139773
I don't believe in God and you sound like a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 19:25:25 No.11140093 Report

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>>11140008
Of course I do, because you are one.
Next time you make a post on a science board come back with an actual argument you butthurt brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 19:52:47 No.11140139 Report

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>>11140093
You didn't post an argument in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 19:56:04 No.11140143 Report

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>>11139577
Isn't it that mating day of week does more testosterone than abstinence from ejaculation?

What about edging for two weeks, when will testosterone levels be highest?

Is fuckability of nurses taking samples adressed in dataset?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 19:56:15 No.11140144 Report

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>>11139577
Is your testosterone at a given day the integral of the function or the function itself. Sorry I’m an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 19:57:23 No.11140151 Report

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>>11140093
>come back with an actual argument to my anecdote and ad hominem bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 19:59:20 No.11140155 Report

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>>11140093
We are not persons, we are piecies of information here where information is determined by post number.

If you have ego in this perspective you are psychiatrically ill.

Get cured.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:19:04 No.11140205 Report

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>>11140155
>We are not persons, we are piecies of information here
>Get cured.

>>11140151
Pic is for you. Also learn what ad hominem means. If anyone of us made one it's you. I simply responded to a post devoid of content.

>>11140139
Is this post an argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:22:48 No.11140209 Report

Quoted By: >>11140401

>>11140205
>I simply responded to a post devoid of content.
Your post was even more devoid of content.
>Pure bullshit. I fap when I want and do other shit when I want. You don't get "a mind filled with sexual thoughts" you 1800 century christ-tard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:26:14 No.11140217 Report

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>>11140205
>you 1800 christ tard
>makes a christ tard argument in his image
Absolute state of cumbrains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:32:43 No.11140230 Report

Quoted By: >>11140401

>>11140205
A visual analogy can constitute an argument, but it's not an appropriate one in this case.
It's fine that you don't feel like you have sexual thoughts, but if the statistics suggest the contrary, I know what I will gravitate towards to, but feel free to be all smug about not "living in a previous century"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:36:43 No.11140237 Report

Quoted By: >>11140242 >>11140244

>>11139577
how would your body define masturbation vs sex? Is having sex twice a day daily for almost 4 years equivalent to jerking off twice a day for 4 years? what if i masturbate only in the morning, with no porn, just to quickly get rid of morning wood?
I swear all this nofap shit comes from people who just want an external cause for their own shortcomings. If anything excessive masturbation is a symptom of the problem, not a cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:38:35 No.11140242 Report

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>>11140237
Both of them have the same negative effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:39:56 No.11140244 Report

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>>11140237
>what if i masturbate only in the morning, with no porn, just to quickly get rid of morning wood?
Then you reinforce its occurrence, instill an autonomic response, and make it much more likely to manifest and intrude upon your morning where you'll suffer the rest of the day with high prolactin, low energy, fatigue, and dripping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:44:28 No.11140250 Report

Quoted By: >>11140405

>>11140242
So you're saying sex is unhealthy? that having sex makes you constantly think about sex? not really in my experience anon.
>>11140244
actually for me it's the opposite. If i don't do that, then I'll just get random boners and think about jerking off more. But either way, I don't get any of this "foggyness" after masturbating.
Anyways keep believing what you want to, just know there is 0 scientific proof that masturbation or sex is inherently bad for you. Quite the opposite in fact, with certain cancer incidences going down upon frequent masturbation. It doesnt surprise me though that people think it works, the people who masturbate so much it infringes upon their lives are those who would actually gain benefit from stopping

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 20:44:44 No.11140251 Report

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>>11139577
if you are an addict, yes
otherwise probably no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:07:07 No.11140296 Report

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>>11139577
When you want to be scientifically correct, send link, and I can judge the material you are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:09:01 No.11140304 Report

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>>11139577
You still miss definition in porn...

Probably we could make those people making lines and technology and compression work faster so we'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:10:25 No.11140308 Report

Quoted By: >>11140335 >>11140407

>>11139653
you can't stop sexual arousal, in fact if you don't jerk off your decision making will be worse because you will be horny thanks to a lack of jerking off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:19:22 No.11140335 Report

Quoted By: >>11140344

>>11140308
Long term stimulation of axional connection can cause they are totally ...

Let's take a bible.

If you properly see this graph, you see that god rested on seventh day...

Actually it also speaks for the fact that you cannot stop ejaculating for longer than 10 days, because you'll ejaculate in sleep,

therefore masturbation on eith day is optimal, then you can have sex on eight and eight of day...

Sex will be fucking amazing, you have fapped and you get least possible metabolites of testosterone caused by sex on high testo, which genuely make people retarded.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:24:50 No.11140344 Report

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>>11140335
And if testosterone makes you obviously,...

Fapping every 3.14 days make you ...

It's like you are statistically fapping 8 times a week. you are horny, you're flat lined, you can be productive,...

From logic of human hormones, it's best way how to spend lonelyness and porn addiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:42:37 No.11140401 Report

Quoted By: >>11140429

>>11140209
More screeching. Enjoy yourself.

>>11140217
>cumbrains.
Found a person I won't bother making a serious reply to.

>>11140230
By all means, if people actually have problems related to porn, then stop watching it, in fact do whatever the hell you want. But if these retards are gonna come and spout religion inspired concepts (i don't give a shit whether or not you are religious) and claim porn is bad like some fucking isis cavemen then no that's not ok. In fact even if porn were harmful (it is healthy) it would be worth it. Because in the end life is about enjoying yourself and being a decent person. And I won't let these fun hating pieces of shit spread harmful propaganda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:42:58 No.11140405 Report

Quoted By: >>11140409

>>11140250
>ignores scientific studies
>ignores scientific discourse
>trust me bro, my addiction isn't getting in the way of my life, there's no extremely specific studies showing precisely the extrapolations in question, therefore they cannot possibly exist, case close, science proves it,
Time to go back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:44:01 No.11140407 Report

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>>11140308
You can stop it by preventing it. Take measures to control your thoughts and remove your eyes from arousing scenarios.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:44:50 No.11140409 Report

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>>11140405
just have sex lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:49:23 No.11140429 Report

Quoted By: >>11140442

>>11140401
Yes, don't worry about becoming fat from all those pizzas and energy drinks. Enjoy your food and don't let those health freaks get their way with their harmful propaganda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:52:27 No.11140442 Report

Quoted By: >>11140446

>>11140429
Nice analogy, how are you gonna get "fat" from a calorie burning activity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:53:20 No.11140446 Report

Quoted By: >>11140451

>>11140442
You're not? That's not what the analogy is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:54:30 No.11140451 Report

Quoted By: >>11140469

>>11140446
Do you even understand what I am saying, or yourself for that matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:58:48 No.11140469 Report

Quoted By: >>11140504

>>11140451
Junk food and porn both offer immediate gratification while (supposedly) having long-term consequences on one's well being. Quitting either is hard because the brain is hardwired to seek them out and respond by releasing dopamine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 21:58:53 No.11140470 Report

Quoted By: >>11140485 >>11142824

>>11139577
NEW STUDY ****
>Impaired Recent Verbal Memory in Pornography-Addicted Juvenile Subjects
Pornography RUINS verbal memory
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6721264/

Impaired Recent Verbal Memory in Pornography-Addicted Juvenile Subjects

Also causes brain damage:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871202

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:02:11 No.11140485 Report

Quoted By: >>11142824

>>11140470
>addicted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:06:00 No.11140501 Report

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Speak for yourself, dude. It's becoming increasingly clear that you people are having personal problems with addiction and are taking it out on the world. Just another feminist/alt-righter/jew hater. All the same shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:07:02 No.11140504 Report

Quoted By: >>11140511 >>11140532

>>11140469
Speak for yourself, dude. It's becoming increasingly clear that you people are having personal problems with addiction and are taking it out on the world. Just another feminist/alt-righter/jew hater. All the same shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:09:54 No.11140511 Report

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>>11140504
this. It's simply people with external locus of control vs those with internal. Super rudimentary psychology, but that concept is actually very solid. Once you stop blaming random externalities on things you actually have control over, your life gets much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:14:56 No.11140530 Report

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>>11139577
In my personal experience refraining from too much porn is indeed good for mental health. However refraining from masturbating for more than 3 days makes me very non-productive as is become easily distracted with frequent sexual thoughts. When I managed more than 7 days I don't feel more manly or anything, just horny as fuck and stupid as hell because of it. Best just to keep balance.

TL;DR: not consuming too much porn is good for your mind, refraining too long from masturbation however might make your decision making impaired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:15:00 No.11140532 Report

Quoted By: >>11140561

>>11140504
>Speak for yourself
This is basic neurobiology. It applies more or less to every human being. Good for you if you don't have a problem with junk food and masturbation, but it can get the best of us. I'm not speaking for anyone specifically.
>It's becoming increasingly clear that you people are having personal problems with addiction and are taking it out on the world. Just another feminist/alt-righter/jew hater. All the same shit.
And the ad hominem apocalypse begins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:21:53 No.11140561 Report

Quoted By: >>11140592

>>11140532
>It applies more or less to every human being.
Bullshit, you guys are a minority. And food is not the same as porn. Stop using that analogy, it's bad.

>And the ad hominem apocalypse begins.
Everything is an ad hominem when you feel insulted, isn't it? Go learn what it actually means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:28:45 No.11140592 Report

Quoted By: >>11140618

>>11140561
>You guys are a minority
Just like only a minority of people are addicted to junk food? That doesn't change the fact that food is in and of itself an addictive substance.
Oh but if food is not a good analogy, what is? Drugs? Alcohol? Both proven addictive substances. Of course they are all different with their unique caveats, but what an analogy does is abstract away all the specifics and leave out the commonalities.
>Go learn what it means
>a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
Yes, that seems exactly like what you did. Not arguing against the points, but just responding with, "this is just your problem, you are obviously an alt-right type"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:34:11 No.11140618 Report

Quoted By: >>11140647

>>11140592
it's not really avoiding the topic at hand when the character flaw he is talking about relates to the topic is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:37:59 No.11140637 Report

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>>11139577
Yes.

Refraining from any hedonistic pursuit will help you. This is because your brain works on comparisons, if you're in a constant state of hedonism(fapping all the time, eating all the time, sugar, caffeine, alcohol, drugs, video games, web browsing etc) you will experience less pleasure, the bar for pleasure is higher and you'll need even MORE of that stuff to feel good, this creates a cycle of constantly needing more and more to get you off.

So yes, you should do a whole dopamine fast though, not just nofap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:40:28 No.11140647 Report

Quoted By: >>11140653

>>11140618
No, because it doesn't.
Even if I had a personal problem with porn, it wouldn't invalidate arguments concerning porn in general.
As for the alt-right stuff, I didn't even know about the connection until the mainstream media picked up on it. I personally first heard about this trend from Reddit's NoFap way back. /pol/ on the other hand has mostly revolved around the appeal to degeneracy, totally unrelated to the modern "movement".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:43:02 No.11140653 Report

Quoted By: >>11140662

>>11140647
>Even if I had a personal problem with porn
Someone's in denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:44:07 No.11140660 Report

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>>11139577
Addiction corrupts the soul

Not even a christfag, it's just obvious that we have souls and addiction affects them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:44:47 No.11140662 Report

Quoted By: >>11140675

>>11140653
Even if I have...
There, happy?
Now, stop being in denial about your ad hominems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:49:11 No.11140675 Report

Quoted By: >>11140691 >>11140707 >>11140796

>>11140662
buddy you REALLY dont know what an ad hominem is. It doesnt mean "when someone refers to another noun other than myself". I can compare you to hitler without it being an ad hominem, as long as substantiated and not used as a flagrant character attack.
in otherwords, fallacy fallacy bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:53:08 No.11140691 Report

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>>11140675
Thanks for answering for me. I'm done arguing with this guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 22:58:46 No.11140707 Report

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>>11140675
>It doesnt mean "when someone refers to another noun other than myself".
Sure, and I wouldn't call you out on it if that was the case.
This is non an ad hominem.
>You are wrong because of X, you fucking American retard
This is an ad hominem
>You are wrong because you are a retarded American, so you are just projecting your dumb viewpoint
Say I have a problem all you want, but that doesn't invalidate anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:22:04 No.11140796 Report

Quoted By: >>11141027

>>11140675
>fallacy fallacy
Do YOU know what that means? Pointing out logical flaws is not inherently itself a fault of arguing. If anything, it helps one to patch up the holes of an argument to make an even stronger case. A fallacy fallacy refers to the faulty reasoning of equating invalidity with unsoundness, not the invalidation itself. That's not what happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Nov 2019 23:23:22 No.11140799 Report

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>>11139760
Kill yourself, fucking stupid coomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 00:35:07 No.11141027 Report

Quoted By: >>11142701

>>11140796
the "fallacy fallacy" comment was a joke dude, don't take it too seriously. does not detract from him not knowing what an ad hom is and how to properly use it (ie, shouting ad hom doesnt automatically win you an argument, or mean that the opponent does not have a solid argument)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 01:29:15 No.11141163 Report

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Porn, sex and lust ruined my mind, my life, my will, my memory. It infected and ruined everything. Hypersexual slow cumbrain. Its worse than heroin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 13:46:23 No.11142701 Report

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>>11141027
>or mean that the opponent does not have a solid argument
If the argument in question is an ad hominem, sure it does.
Rejecting someone's rhetoric on the basis of their personal properties without addressing the argument is an ad hominem, not merely a bad tone causing offense.
The Wikpedia description so uncannily resembles this instance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 15:11:50 No.11142824 Report

Quoted By: >>11143250

>>11140485
>>11140470
what does that mean "addicted"? Cooming 2 times a week but only to porn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 Nov 2019 18:31:00 No.11143250 Report

Quoted By: >>11144145

>>11142824
There is no definition for addicted and if there was, most everyone would fall under it, which means the masses of NPCs with their programmed behavior would SEETHE at the the notion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 00:02:32 No.11144130 Report

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>>11139631
Fuck.
I’ve been fappin and tapping my books for the past few months.
Thanks for the alert dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 00:05:31 No.11144142 Report

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Funny all the nofapers are incel, manlet, uggos, while Chads jerk off 3 times a day and cum in Stacy 5 times a day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Nov 2019 00:07:21 No.11144145 Report

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>>11143250
shit im addicted to breathing.
IM AN NPC

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