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Peter Thiel debate - Rate of innovation

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 18:44:28 2019 No.11105830 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11106000 >>11106013 >>11106869

Skip to 6 hrs 53 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqZmQhhd27o

Internet50 Debate on Innovation with billionaire Peter Thiel.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 19:51:06 No.11105981 Report

Quoted By: >>11106852

protip: skip the non peter thiel parts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 19:59:06 No.11106000 Report

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>>11105830
I think Peter Thiel is smart, but I don't agree with his meme idea that we (or America) must progress must progress must progress technologically.

If he was a philosopher and would make an argument for it, I'd listen. But in reality he's just a piece on the chessboard which benefits financially from all the things he proposes - so it's probably just egocentric meme ideas.

El Arcón

El Arcón Wed 30 Oct 2019 20:03:44 No.11106013 Report

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>>11105830
The measurement of the FSC to 10 sigfigs is based on one or more assumptions about what actually happens in the Josephson junction. You change the value of the FSC a little without making physics explode because the quantum uncertainty lets you move what is uncertain to the any corner of the theory. It is only by convention that the FSC is agreed to be what it is, and they could change the convention without destroying the theory. However, you cannot have the kingdom of God on Earth without first destroying Peter Thiel and his homosexual mafia cohorts.

El Arcón

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El Arcón Wed 30 Oct 2019 20:10:08 No.11106024 Report

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Quantum Theory without Planck's Constant
https://arxiv.org/abs/1203.5557

This paper shows the 900 ways you can alter theory without destroying it, and it shows very plainly that those 10 sigfigs o the FSC which Peter cites, like the cunt he is, don't mean anything other than that people have all agreed on which assumptions to assume and not assume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:57:51 No.11106852 Report

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>>11106000
> if we was a philosopher

so you aren't going to argue against his ideas? just say you don't like his credentials?

certainly part of his speaking is advertising for his fund, but thats only to a tiny viewership. the dudes a billionaire. he has fuck you money. he isn't try to please uni administrators or anything like that.

do you even know his argument? his argument isn't that tech progress is essential for our societies, but it's important for the one we built. American politics needs a give and take with different interest groups. you may lose a fight today, but later your group can get future gains. with no economic growth that doesn't work. it becomes a zero sum battle with other (racial and familial) groups.

>>11105981
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 02:06:44 No.11106869 Report

Quoted By: >>11107095

>>11105830
The low hanging fruit has been picked. Not much left to do but wait for the dieback.
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2016/12/depressing-paper-great-stagnation.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 04:10:42 No.11107085 Report

Quoted By: >>11107095

He's really saying, the low-hanging fruit have been picked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 04:13:53 No.11107095 Report

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>>11106869
>>11107085
This really shouldn't be surprising. The industrial revolution was just that: a REVolution, as opposed to an evolution. Revolutions are one-off events by definition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 04:18:04 No.11107107 Report

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>>11107095
Nah, there are certainly fields where innovation is healthy. It's more the fact that so many fields and systems are completely unhealthy.

The "why" innovation happens and what specific systems lead to innovation should be more well known. I'd argue the majority of universities and even companies have no ability to innovate. They reach a point of becoming static with no input of new ideas allowed, only reinforcement of the existing static structure adnaus

That's a huge amount of fields, minds, and intellectual work just being shit down the drain.

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