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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 03:30:28 2019 No.11094886 View Reply Original Report

we can go back to eating meat now bois

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 03:57:16 No.11094926 Report

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>>11094886
97% vs 3%

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:06:08 No.11094934 Report

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>>11094886
in soviet russia, meat eats you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:07:48 No.11094938 Report

>>11094886
Why does the scientific consensus on nutrition change so frequently?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:11:36 No.11094946 Report

Quoted By: >>11094962 >>11102844

>>11094886
The field of nutrition is full of this tug of war
Probably the smartest thing to do (as we're not fundamentally different to the adaptations of our ancestors) is eat in accordance to the the Lindy Effect. That is, what worked then works now.
Or just follow the cutting edge of scientific noise before those lecturing have even lived out their practice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:12:31 No.11094947 Report

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>>11094886
Damn how am I going to sell my deep fried maggots now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:12:55 No.11094952 Report

Quoted By: >>11107437

>>11094938
one corrupt report does not a scientific consensus make

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:14:47 No.11094958 Report

Quoted By: >>11095105

>>11094938
>reseacher 1: we found a 0.000001% increase in cancer among those who eat red meat
>researcher 2: actually if you change the analyzed groups in a way so it is less biased you can see that there isn't an increase at all and even then your numbers are still gay and barely show a correlation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 04:16:08 No.11094962 Report

Quoted By: >>11095089 >>11106754

>>11094946
But that's inherently flawed since the reason it's in such a tug of war is because new harm and illnesses come up every day.
You can't eat a caveman diet because cavemen lived like absolute shit. Classical diets we basically have no idea what they were. Can't go with a medeival diet because everyone were fat and most pre-70's diets would be out the window because it expects you to do hard labor not heard of before or after the industrialization begun.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 05:28:28 No.11095089 Report

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>>11094962
>people were fat in medieval times
Pick up a book, you stupid nigger. Your average man was 5'7" 150lb. Grain was the staple food and people rarely ate meat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 05:41:57 No.11095105 Report

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>>11094958
>researcher: what if I ran a regression analysis on this data for modern dietary additions such as refined car-
>NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 05:44:54 No.11095111 Report

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>>11094938
Because it involves an astonishing amount of money

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 06:00:37 No.11095142 Report

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>>11094886
That's not what the paper said. They twisted those scientist's words again for publicity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 06:29:52 No.11095177 Report

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>eating meat isn't that bad
>uproarious
Absolute state.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 06:36:13 No.11095184 Report

Quoted By: >>11095346 >>11095373 >>11099918

>>11095089
> people rarely ate meat
A niggers fairy tale. People always eat a lot of meat. Fishing, deer, rabbits etc. Just because they didn't farm much meat doesn't mean they didn't constantly eat it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 08:47:13 No.11095346 Report

Quoted By: >>11095923 >>11107403

>>11095184
There's a great study that came out recently examining the back bones of Europeans over the past 2000 years. There's 4 periods where they're relatively healthy and not eroded to shit - following the Antonine plague, the collapse of the Roman empire, the 14th century black death and the modern period from the 19th century onwards. Basically, humans were on the edge of terrible health for most of history unless something killed off most people and increased resources for the survivors like Malthus predicted.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 08:51:33 No.11095350 Report

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Find your oldest relative and eat like them

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 08:59:44 No.11095357 Report

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>>11094938
Bacause what's happening ow its the same thing that happened when it was found out that smoking killed people

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 09:03:31 No.11095363 Report

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>>11095089
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 09:06:26 No.11095366 Report

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>>11094938
Money, lobbies, giant corps. This is why people no longer trust science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 09:07:51 No.11095369 Report

Quoted By: >>11107410

>haven't eaten animals for 4 years
>literally activating chad genes and becoming an athlete, doctors amazed by results, verified by blood tests
>leading by example instead of debating idiots who still can't do proper body recomp

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 09:09:38 No.11095373 Report

Quoted By: >>11096654 >>11097474 >>11097977

>>11095184
You fucking retard red meet was for the nobles and common folk got executed for hunting animals. Not to mention church forbid eating meet for like 200 days a year.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 10:33:45 No.11095508 Report

Quoted By: >>11106716

>>11094886
Biology isn't a real science yet. Results can never be properly repeated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:30:22 No.11095712 Report

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>>11094938
because nutrition science is bogus, see the curse of dimensionality which is apparently unknown to the nutrition researchers whose research pretty much amounts to applying statistical methods blindly

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:43:20 No.11095741 Report

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>>11094938
maybe trying to explain nutrition on the broadest and vaguest possible terms is not actually useful
I mean every individual has certain unique qualities that affect their metabolism, would you really believe someone who is saying that all people across the world have equally high risk of getting cancer from eating red meat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:46:38 No.11095750 Report

Quoted By: >>11095759

>>11094886
>Believing (((they))) had your best interest in heart by advocating diets that are literally known to cause bone and brain decay and an impossibility to get essential nutrients from plants

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:49:27 No.11095757 Report

Quoted By: >>11106822

>>11094886
Shitty bait threads ruin this board.
Don’t draw conclusions from only one study.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:50:42 No.11095759 Report

Quoted By: >>11095764 >>11106731

>>11095750
>and an impossibility to get essential nutrients from plants

You can acquire all essential nutrients eating only plants. Literally google it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:52:55 No.11095764 Report

Quoted By: >>11096317 >>11096591 >>11096595

>>11095759
But you can't absorb critical amino acids or B12… they may be present but you're not receiving any. On the other hand you can actually live (healthily) on eating only meat, Google it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 13:42:25 No.11095852 Report

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Let me guess, the misinterpreted the p-value

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 14:16:16 No.11095923 Report

Quoted By: >>11103427 >>11107859

>>11095346
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 14:46:14 No.11095998 Report

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>>11094938
In addition to the money and special interests groups people have pointed out, nutritional studies with rigorous methodology are usually hard to do. Asking people to remember what they ate is pretty unreliable.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 17:00:31 No.11096298 Report

Quoted By: >>11096305 >>11096311 >>11096314

i eat pussy

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 17:02:11 No.11096305 Report

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>>11096298
Enjoy your throat cancer, bitchboy.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 17:04:28 No.11096311 Report

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>>11096298
I drink loli juice every morning

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 17:05:10 No.11096314 Report

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>>11096298
Cringe and blue-pilled

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 17:06:15 No.11096317 Report

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>>11095764
>google it

nah bro, I'm good. I know you're full of shit and you don't even realize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:07:46 No.11096567 Report

Quoted By: >>11106731

>>11096317
It's well documented, you need to have a well rounded meat diet though, you need muscle meat, organ meat and animal fat. You can actually reverse heart disease and lose weight. It's a very healthy diet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:14:52 No.11096591 Report

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>>11095764
>Google it.
>go find the proof
dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:15:36 No.11096595 Report

Quoted By: >>11096636 >>11099259

>>11095764
none of this is true and eating only meat shrinks your penis, Google it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:29:04 No.11096636 Report

Quoted By: >>11096640 >>11096645 >>11102858

>>11096595
Completely baseless, soi on the other hand can do that due to its isoflavones mimicking estrogen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:30:32 No.11096640 Report

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>>11096636
nope, what you're saying is completely baseless, meat on the other hand does

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:33:42 No.11096644 Report

Quoted By: >>11106746

diet is a fucking meme
there are way more relevant ways to be healthy, like exercising

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:33:51 No.11096645 Report

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>>11096640
>>11096636
Post studies, scrubs.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:34:31 No.11096647 Report

Quoted By: >>11096656

>>11096640
Oh. You're a troll.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18558591/

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:36:34 No.11096654 Report

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>>11095373
>you fucking retard
>”meet”

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:36:34 No.11096655 Report

Quoted By: >>11097973 >>11108294

In all honesty Americans and the rest of the 1st world eat like fat lards. I didn't realize how bad it was until I got a roommate who ate 3 hamburgers as day, when I commented on it he said "it's good protein" when he was classified as obese and was completely sedentary. Your diet should be 15%, 20% TOPS meat.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:36:46 No.11096656 Report

Quoted By: >>11096673 >>11096683

>>11096647
>sample size of one
>drank nearly 3l of onions milk per day
>even so it wasn't linked to onions directly, just a correlation study
it could have been any 1 of the ingrediants in the onions milk that he was drinking in huge quantities

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:41:19 No.11096673 Report

Quoted By: >>11096684

>>11096656
>>11096656
onion milk if it is a thing would increase testosterone production

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:41:36 No.11096674 Report

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>>11094938
Because anything that deals with human biology is too complicated for us to understand properly.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:43:34 No.11096683 Report

Quoted By: >>11096718 >>11102858

>>11096656
How about a sample size of 126million?
You can see the feminizing effects on the Japanese population as a whole

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:43:55 No.11096684 Report

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>>11096673
basedmilk

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:50:23 No.11096696 Report

Quoted By: >>11096702

The problem is being sedentarian. If you eat a lot of meat/protein and don't use it doing exercises it will accumulate in your system and cause inflamation. Same stuff with carbs. Athletes have very efficient digestive systems and immune systems, they can eat whatever and ony restrict their diet for performance purposes. Construction and rural workers in my country eat almost a bucket of rice and meat everyday and are strong as horses. When they get old and stop using their bodies is when diseases take hold. Do exercises everyday the most you can, your body will adjust and heal itself

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:51:47 No.11096702 Report

Quoted By: >>11096736

>>11096696
eating nothing but meat lowers inflammation though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 19:59:53 No.11096718 Report

Quoted By: >>11096732

>>11096683
>How about a sample size of 126million?
yeah sure, link the study

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:07:01 No.11096732 Report

Quoted By: >>11096747 >>11096748 >>11110855

>>11096718
have you seen Japanese people.?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:07:40 No.11096736 Report

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>>11096702
Do you have any sources? I searched "meat lowers inflammation" and I can only find the opposite.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:13:06 No.11096747 Report

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>>11096732
usually I stretch the corner of my eyes to fit in with them but then I can't see so well

most of the time I can't

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:13:13 No.11096748 Report

Quoted By: >>11096756

>>11096732
so you can't give a study?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:16:12 No.11096755 Report

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>>11094938
>scientific consensus on nutrition
when has this ever existed?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:18:04 No.11096756 Report

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>>11096748
just study Japanese people, just observe them. Be a fucking scientist.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:19:35 No.11096760 Report

Quoted By: >>11096765 >>11096788

>>11096756
so you don't have a study? it's still a case of
>go prove me right
I'm open to the idea of carnivore but the issue is they never provide anything to back up their claims other than
>just trust me bro

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:21:21 No.11096765 Report

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>>11096760
Not him, but you have yet to post the study stating that meat shrinks your peepee. Fucking scrub.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:22:28 No.11096766 Report

Quoted By: >>11099259

>>11096765
because it doesn't, I posted that to make a point he made a bunch of claims and provided no proof, so someone can do the same in reverse and both are equally valid

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:31:45 No.11096788 Report

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:33:30 No.11096792 Report

Quoted By: >>11096806

>>11096788
cheers pal, also are these just copy/paste studies or are you actually finding them 1 by one? cause I'm curious about long term heart health on carnivore because I've heard it's more of a carb issue than meat

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:34:58 No.11096798 Report

Quoted By: >>11096801

>>11096788
im actually finding them, that's why its taking a bit

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:35:45 No.11096801 Report

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>>11096798
appreciate it mate

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:36:36 No.11096806 Report

Quoted By: >>11096809

>>11096792
also im pretty sure one or two of those I posted were either on positive heart effects and another was about previous studies that showed negative heart effects were actually from force feeding rats much higher amounts then would be healthy with any food.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:38:07 No.11096809 Report

Quoted By: >>11096871 >>11097322 >>11099303 >>11099978 >>11106710

>>11096806
how long have you been carni for? also what's the common explanation on the vegetarian push in science and medicine?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:48:06 No.11096845 Report

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>>11094938
>A
It's almost as if science is actually really hard, we're really bad at it and we're constantly wrong about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:49:00 No.11096849 Report

Quoted By: >>11097173

weight loss
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6024699/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5598025/

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:51:20 No.11096853 Report

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muscles (meat proteins vs vegetarian alternatives, this one shouldn't be a surprise)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905294/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6185420/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4529719/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6185420/

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:55:36 No.11096871 Report

Quoted By: >>11097173

>>11096809
i'm not, I eat a well rounded diet, I just think if you want to do a restrictive diet it's healthier than being a vegan.

reduction in pain/inflammation (just a note, there isn't a consensus on whether meat actually lowers meat or if it's just plants that are causing inflammation)
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0008349
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4869556/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16531187
had to remove a couple 4chan thought was spam..

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:57:12 No.11096877 Report

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>>11096317
Holy shit you are fucking retarded.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 22:21:28 No.11097173 Report

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>>11096849
Those two are the same studies. The only result I can see is that caloric restriction reduces weight and plant diets have 5 higher cravings associated with them. I see in their experimental design they did portion control on the beef plan over macro-counting, so I'm skeptical.

>>11096871
Those are over extracts and ketogenic diets. Is there any consensus on actual intake of red meat and inflammation?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 23:10:48 No.11097322 Report

Quoted By: >>11097332 >>11097449 >>11099259

>>11096809
>also what's the common explanation on the vegetarian push in science and medicine?

Because it's the fucking truth?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 23:14:43 No.11097332 Report

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>>11097322
it's not though.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 23:15:42 No.11097334 Report

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>>11094886
vegans on suiwatch

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 23:33:44 No.11097402 Report

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>>11094886
REEEE EAT BUGS

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 23:46:54 No.11097449 Report

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>>11097322
>we evolved to eat like goats
where did you get that from?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Oct 2019 23:58:01 No.11097474 Report

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>>11095373
>meet
FUCK. I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 02:29:40 No.11097908 Report

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>>11094938
"Nutrition Science" came from the Home Economics Department. They don't even take math or science. It should be part of Medicine but no money to be made.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 03:04:45 No.11097973 Report

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>>11096655
people are fat because of the amount they eat, not what they eat
they're healthy or not based on *what* they eat

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 03:06:16 No.11097977 Report

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>>11095373
>moves goalposts from meat in general to "red meet"
>conveniently ignores fish was allowed on sundays and the pope had some interesting views on what counted as a fish (including beavers)

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 14:17:23 No.11098960 Report

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>>11094886

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 14:44:20 No.11099009 Report

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I eat a balanced mediterranean diet, clearly the superior diet. Fite me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 15:15:12 No.11099073 Report

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>>11094938
You now realize 95% of all cientific reports are skewed

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 15:19:11 No.11099090 Report

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>>11094886
You just have to stay close to the diet your hunter gatherer ancestors have adapted to. For example in my family it's been the rule to fill 3/4 of your plate with plant products and 1/4 of your plate with animal products and everyone of my family is healthy. All my great-grandparents that didn't die in WW2 lived up to 90.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 16:34:41 No.11099259 Report

Quoted By: >>11106731

>>11096317
>eeeeeh google it
<no you google it lmao
>EEEEEEH UR WRONG
Ah yes, veganism.
>>11096595
Now he's trying to aim for masculinity.
>>11096766
>i was only pretending to be retarded
>>11097322
More like (((truth)))
>>11097449
His ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 16:47:13 No.11099303 Report

Quoted By: >>11100307

>>11096809
>Convince people to remove meat from their diet
>Sell them supplements to subdue the effects of nutrient deficiency temporarily
>They develop more health problems after a while
>Sell them medications to deal with the health problems
>The medication becomes less and less effective due to tolerance
>Sell them drugs to suppress the suffering, mental illness and depression

All hail the pharma industry, the Veggies best friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 20:37:08 No.11099820 Report

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>>11094886
Anyone with a brain could take one look at long term vegans and know their diet was unhealthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 21:01:21 No.11099918 Report

Quoted By: >>11104317 >>11104324

>>11095184
If you don't farm meat there's not a lot of it.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 21:03:27 No.11099925 Report

Quoted By: >>11099958

>>11094947
Exactly. The elites fly jets and shit but plebs are to be vegan, recycle and save electricity. Complete medieval shit to cover up the falling standard of life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 21:05:17 No.11099930 Report

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>>11094886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIrgywCfBOQ

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 21:11:53 No.11099958 Report

Quoted By: >>11104700

>>11099925
You will eat bugs and you will live in the pod and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 21:21:47 No.11099978 Report

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>>11096809
it is usually feefees. they hate hunters/redneaks and love little critters. but don't call them critters because I quote a environmentalist "that is what redneaks call them to justify shooting them"

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 22:36:29 No.11100276 Report

Quoted By: >>11100573

>>11094938
https://michaelpollan.com/articles-archive/unhappy-meals/

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 22:44:54 No.11100307 Report

Quoted By: >>11100349

>>11099303
delusional retard

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 22:59:44 No.11100349 Report

Quoted By: >>11100353

>>11100307
bluepillsd

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Anonymous Mon 28 Oct 2019 23:00:44 No.11100353 Report

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>>11100349
nice try but nah

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:11:41 No.11100573 Report

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>>11100276
>Don’t take the silence of the yams as a sign that they have nothing valuable to say about health.
kek

That was a great read

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:14:27 No.11100582 Report

Quoted By: >>11100599 >>11100612 >>11100646 >>11103085 >>11105608 >>11105635 >>11106700

>>11094886
So what the fuck do I have to eat If I want to live a healthy life?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:18:16 No.11100599 Report

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>>11100582
mediterranean diet ie a little of everything

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:21:50 No.11100612 Report

Quoted By: >>11100643

>>11100582
Eat food
Not too much
Mostly plants

Nothing food-like, or in other words nothing your great-great-grandma wouldn't recognize. Whole meat, particularly high-quality grass-fed, is fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:23:32 No.11100620 Report

Quoted By: >>11106685 >>11106700

>>11094938
Harvard is running these massive longitudinal studies that survey hundreds of thousands of people over decades about what they eat and any diseases they develop — based on this it is believed that meat is bad for health because people who eat meat correlate with people who get cancer and more diseases.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:23:40 No.11100622 Report

Quoted By: >>11100645

>>11094886
what the vegetarians can't claim moral superiority now? hahahaha

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:37:03 No.11100643 Report

Quoted By: >>11100713

>>11100612
Yes I’m sure that’s a fine way for Mr Michael Pollan with his millions in royalties and 400+ salary. Grassfed steak every day.

The problem is sustainability... supposedly there is no way for the masses of people (including me for example) to eat healthy and cheaply.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:39:13 No.11100645 Report

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>>11100622
Vegetarianism should be distinguished from Veganism. There is little reason to be vegan afaik — someone can correct me — other than a belief that animal products are inherently unethical.

Lots of mainstream heart doctors seem to promote increased consumption of vegetables.

Though the carnivore crowd( lots of them doctors) believe that veggies are full of poisonous compounds.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:39:25 No.11100646 Report

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>>11100582
eat tidepods

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 00:48:51 No.11100673 Report

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>>11094886
>he hasn't figured out his own diet
>he listens to meme of the week nutritional recommendations

Nigga it's not that hard to figure out what food makes you feel like shit and what food gives you energy. Seriously the best thing you can do for yourself is figure out what foods work best with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 01:11:41 No.11100713 Report

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>>11100643
Spend more on food if you want quality. In the 40's we used to spend 24% of our budget on food

Now it's 10%

Buy fresh vegetables is an investment in you. Scale up to organic and grass-fed when you have the income. Take a bullish stake in your own health

!!cDFy7UQEQm8

!!cDFy7UQEQm8 Tue 29 Oct 2019 19:09:16 No.11102844 Report

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>>11094938
>>11094946
"Full nutrition" is such a rarity amongst diets and scholarly articles. It undermines associations / results.

Dieting is basically ~solved now (an exception being really specific amounts), which is suggestive of eternal youth – furthermore of a "repeatable, adulthood puberty" from VLC / prioritizing hypoglycemia, etc. (extremely low BF%, plausibly even stopping menstruation in girls; flexibility ..), for hormones.

PS: Saturated fats are of their appropriation; and dietary cholesterol is actually quite beneficial.

!!cDFy7UQEQm8

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>>11102844
PPS.

!!cDFy7UQEQm8

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!!cDFy7UQEQm8 Tue 29 Oct 2019 19:15:34 No.11102858 Report

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>>11096636
>>11096683
The effects of phytoestrogens are still debated. A simple conclusion is that it actually drops estrogen, while simultaneously being much less potent.

Also, >>11102844

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 19:22:48 No.11102881 Report

Quoted By: >>11103363

>>11096788
>High protein diets, etc.
Vague.

>Omega 3
.. Of which meat barely has any.

>B6 and dietary fiber.
Vague (and supplementable).

>Reduced demyelination.
A protein correlative.

>Keto.
Protein.

>Childhood development, specifically.
Protein and nutrients.

..

––

It's possible replacing benefits of meat with vegetarian options, even whey and casein .. plausibly for fewer hormones, and especially fewer calories (allowing much greater variety, enjoyability, etc.).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 19:43:43 No.11102942 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 21:23:50 No.11103085 Report

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>>11100582
Eat what your great great grandparents ate and you can't go wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:09:49 No.11103355 Report

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>>11094886
>no health risk
>there's no problem then
do you literally just forgot about all the environmental problems it causes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:12:16 No.11103362 Report

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>>11094886
also :
CRIPPA, Alessio, LARSSON, Susanna C., DISCACCIATI, Andrea, et al. Red and processed meat consumption and risk of bladder cancer: a dose–response meta-analysis of epidemiological studies. European journal of nutrition, 2018, vol. 57, no 2, p. 689-701.

why do you link a stupid ass normie media? We're on /sci/ not /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:13:37 No.11103363 Report

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>>11102881
>No omega 3
Fish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:15:04 No.11103367 Report

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>>11103355
Tell it to India, they have have 30% of the world's cows and refuse to slaughter them. Fucking assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:16:05 No.11103369 Report

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>>11103367
a big part of the problem is actually killing and transforming the meat, so I'm pretty sure juste having cows isn't that much of a big deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:17:50 No.11103373 Report

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>>11103369
No. According to (((vegans))) cows being alive is the problem
https://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-co2/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:18:35 No.11103374 Report

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>>11103363
"It takes up to 18 years for the body to clear half of the dose of mercury from the body."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:19:01 No.11103377 Report

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>>11103373
i don't really care about what antisemites or vegans think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Oct 2019 23:41:49 No.11103427 Report

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>>11095923
Metamucil is a good source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 00:13:26 No.11103510 Report

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>>11103377
You're too dumb for sci.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 00:21:22 No.11103532 Report

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>>11103510
you're too dumb for /sci/
I'm hear to discuss science, not politics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 00:22:57 No.11103537 Report

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>>11103532
politics affects science

(((vegans))) produce a (((study))), which is sci-related

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 00:50:17 No.11103613 Report

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>>11094926
>muh research grant approval rate proves what is truth, by volume of peer-pee-viewed peepers..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 02:41:27 No.11103977 Report

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>>11103369
the problem are cow farts
>>11103377
brainlet
>>11103374
who are you quoting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 02:53:53 No.11104006 Report

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>>11103532
so you've read the journals and understand why the anti-meat studies have all been garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 02:56:15 No.11104010 Report

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>>11103374
faggot, you can't just make up shit on /sci/ and think it'll slip by, go back to /pol/
how long have you been vegan, just curious on how long it took you to become this retarded

for mercury, the half-life in the whole body has been observed to be within the range of 29 to 60 days, with an average of 42 days for inorganic mercury.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 03:45:42 No.11104127 Report

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I eat like my hunter gatherer European ancestors.
aka 60% meat the rest produce during spring to fall, while winter I eat 80-90% meat

this good or bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 03:49:16 No.11104135 Report

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>>11103613
>fapmaster shitposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 03:50:20 No.11104137 Report

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>>11104127
depends. If it's processed meat, that's shit. If you're eating organ meats you're healthier than every vegetarian/vegan (not hard to do) and 99% of americans in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 03:50:21 No.11104138 Report

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>>11104127
you die early, very good

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 04:56:55 No.11104300 Report

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>>11104138
But if a hunter gatherer made it through childhood their average life span was 70 years.
>Hunter-gatherers do not experience short, nasty, and brutish lives as some earlier scholars have suggested (Vallois 1961). Instead, there appears to be a characteristic life span for Homo sapiens, in that on average, human bodies function well for about seven decades. These seven decades start with high infant mortality rates that rapidly decline through childhood, followed by a period in which mortality remains essentially the same to about 40 years. After this period, mortality rates rise steadily until around 70 years of age (Gurven and Kaplan 2007). Of course, mortality rates differ geographically and temporally, especially in the risks of violent deaths and disease. However, these differences are minimal when compared on a global scale, and the mortality...
https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-3-319-16999-6_2352-1

And as the name implies, they were hunter gatheres, meaning they spent all their life being active and trying to survive, a modern 70yo could barely walk up a set of stairs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 05:03:51 No.11104317 Report

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>>11099918
Not true when it's extremely abundant and you've yet to put a dent in it with human consumption (low population of humans too).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 05:05:39 No.11104324 Report

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>>11099918
false

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 09:04:57 No.11104700 Report

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>>11099958
pod life would be comfy but bugs can fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 11:10:56 No.11104880 Report

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>>11104006
I've read meta-analysis and fixed my opinion on the scientific consensus : red and processed meat increase the risks of having a bladder cancer

gtfo with your journals

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 14:15:02 No.11105199 Report

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You WILL eat the bugs, goyim, one way or another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 16:46:46 No.11105608 Report

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>>11100582
eat shit ;))

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 17:04:56 No.11105635 Report

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>>11105608
based

>>11100582
you need to eat shit anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 17:08:12 No.11105644 Report

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>>11094886
I'm sure big agriculture had nothing to do with this. Look into blue zones. All areas with large numbers of centinarians eat predominantly plant based.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 17:58:13 No.11105733 Report

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>>11094886
Look, you faggot, if you make a new thread with just a screencap of some news article without linking any sources so I can be the usual typical autistic faggot and read it to point out the bullshit, I'm just going to write this angry post and close this tab in my browser, you insufferable trolling baiting piece of shit.

I'm fucking tired of digging this shit up on my own.

Go kill yourself and die of AIDS.

>REEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Oct 2019 18:31:57 No.11105809 Report

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>>11105733
this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 00:43:04 No.11106678 Report

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>>11094938
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>http://mentalfloss.com/article/32042/corn-flakes-were-invented-part-anti-masturbation-crusade
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg#Battle_Creek_Sanitarium
>https://gizmodo.com/dr-kelloggs-15-most-absurd-medical-contraptions-5963269/amp
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 00:45:46 No.11106685 Report

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>>11094926
>>11094938
>>11100620
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2011/12/devil-in-feeding-trough-pge-response-to.html?m=1
>https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
>http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/
>http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 00:48:12 No.11106691 Report

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>>11103355
>>11103369
>https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659
>https://www.newsweek.com/giving-meat-wont-save-climate-opinion-1193358
>https://futurism.com/the-byte/lab-grown-meat-worse-environment
>https://slate.com/technology/2015/09/in-vitro-meat-probably-wont-save-the-planet-yet.html
>https://earther.gizmodo.com/well-dang-lab-grown-meat-might-bad-for-the-planet-too-1832783987
>https://nypost.com/2018/10/22/no-giving-up-burgers-wont-actually-save-the-planet/
>https://www.sciencealert.com/sorry-but-giving-up-on-meat-is-not-going-to-save-the-planet
>https://reason.com/2019/07/29/why-giving-up-meat-wont-have-much-of-an-effect-on-climate-change/
>http://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/4-facts-debunk-meat-horrible-article
>http://grist.org/sustainable-farming/farmer-responds-to-the-new-york-times-re-sustainable-meat/
>http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-ca-jc-nicolette-hahn-niman-20141123-story.html
>https://theconversation.com/yes-eating-meat-affects-the-environment-but-cows-are-not-killing-the-climate-94968
>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation
>https://blogs.wsj.com/numbers/how-much-meat-do-americans-eat-then-and-now-1792/
>>11104880
>>11106685

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 00:54:32 No.11106700 Report

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>>11094926
>>11094938
>>11100620
>>11100582
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2016/10/latest-study-shows-that-33-gkg-high.html
>http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127
>https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-03/nlmc-nfi030112.php
>https://news.gsu.edu/2018/09/10/researchers-identify-molecule-with-anti-aging-effects-on-vascular-system-study-finds/
>https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 00:58:01 No.11106710 Report

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>>11096809
>>11106678

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 00:59:48 No.11106716 Report

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>>11095508
You're fucking retarded

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:05:19 No.11106731 Report

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>>11095759
>>11096567
>>11096877
>>11099259
>Animals store vitamin B12 in liver and muscle and some pass the vitamin into their eggs and milk; meat, liver, eggs and milk are therefore sources of the vitamin for other animals, including people.[5][7][25] For humans, the bioavailability from eggs is less than 9%, compared to 40% to 60% from fish, fowl and meat.[26] Insects are a source of B12 for animals (including other insects and humans).[25][27]
>Animal sources with a significant content of vitamin B12 (range among top 20 sources of 50 to 99 µg per 100 grams)[28] include clams, organ meats (especially liver) from lamb, veal, beef, and turkey, fish eggs, mackerel, and crab meat.[4][5]
>There are no naturally occurring notable vegetable dietary sources of the vitamin
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources
>https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants
>https://dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/
>>11106700

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:06:22 No.11106734 Report

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>>11106731

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:06:50 No.11106736 Report

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>>11100673
this is the highest iq post in this thread i guarantee it

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:07:24 No.11106737 Report

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>>11106734

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:08:26 No.11106742 Report

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>>11106737

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:09:28 No.11106743 Report

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>>11106742

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:10:45 No.11106745 Report

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>>11103362
>>11106685

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:11:47 No.11106746 Report

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>>11096644
You diet and exercise together

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:16:22 No.11106754 Report

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>>11094962
>You can't eat a caveman diet because cavemen lived like absolute shit.
>http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
>https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Meat+in+the+human+diet:+an+anthropological+perspective-a0169311689
>https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html
>https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
>https://carta.anthropogeny.org/moca/topics/smalllarge-intestine-length-ratio
>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d0fe/b0019dc8017e499150bc453230018d5cd282.pdf
>https://www.mpg.de/12728073/neandertals-main-food-source-was-definitely-meat

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:17:29 No.11106757 Report

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>>11106754

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:18:32 No.11106760 Report

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>>11106757

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:19:58 No.11106765 Report

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>>11106760

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:21:01 No.11106769 Report

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>>11106765

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 01:40:26 No.11106822 Report

Quoted By: >>11107388

>>11095757
The authors of the meat=good study was funded by you-guessed-it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 07:54:32 No.11107373 Report

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>>11106716
He's right in that biology/medicine suffer from the same problem economics does on a greater degree, they're much more complex than physics. Doesn't mean they're not science tho, they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 08:06:52 No.11107388 Report

Quoted By: >>11112156

>>11106822
Give me a reason why meat must be bad for you. What's the cause? All nutritional studies just show correlation without any attempt at explaining the phenomenon. This is why nutritional science isn't a science, it's just statistical correlations taken at face value, that's why the results are always shifting. Nobody hazards to come up with an explanation and put it to the test

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 08:16:46 No.11107403 Report

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>>11095346
Makes sense. So baby boomers had it easy because everyone else had died in WW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 08:18:15 No.11107410 Report

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>>11095369
It's just cuz you lost weight nigga. But I bet your micros are fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 08:53:59 No.11107437 Report

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>>11094952
It's not a single report you dingus, doctors have been praising raw beef for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 09:39:37 No.11107474 Report

Quoted By: >>11107551

>>11102858
It drops estrogen because it has lower colesterol like all plant foods do. They also lower testosterone btw cuz that stuff all comes from cholesterol anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 10:51:59 No.11107548 Report

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>>11103977
>>11104010
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22It+takes+up+to+18+years+for+the+body+to+clear+half+of+the+dose+of+mercury+from+the+body.%22

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 10:53:02 No.11107551 Report

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>>11107474
Lull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:20:05 No.11107682 Report

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>>11107548
MEAT EATERS BTFO

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:48:04 No.11107716 Report

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>>11102844
>PS: Saturated fats are of their appropriation; and dietary cholesterol is actually quite beneficial.
>Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease.
>The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades.
>The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI.
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/saturated-fat-good-or-bad/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/
>http://www.uib.no/en/node/103172
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-studies-on-saturated-fat
>http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>https://news.gsu.edu/2018/09/10/researchers-identify-molecule-with-anti-aging-effects-on-vascular-system-study-finds/

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:49:06 No.11107717 Report

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>>11107716
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:50:08 No.11107719 Report

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>>11107717

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:51:11 No.11107722 Report

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>>11107719

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:52:48 No.11107727 Report

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>>11107722

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 13:53:51 No.11107729 Report

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>>11107727

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 15:16:40 No.11107859 Report

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>>11095923
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/backbone-of-europe/F4E2FD1F6175BBF92AE49E9480AEB701
You can read the chapters with sci hub, or the summary in pic related. Not quite as clear cut as my impression was, but I hadn't read the source in depth. Gist is health was best post Roman empire/Justinian plague, declines continuously as increase starch/sugar use, black death helped reduce inequality.
Stop eating sugar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 19:00:32 No.11108278 Report

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>>11104317
holodomor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 19:13:17 No.11108294 Report

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>>11096655
Hamburgers are bad because they're soaked in factory processed vegetable oil. Your roommate would have a lot of trouble getting fat on steaks and roast potatoes, but everything he ate was soaked in vegetable oils.

Most anti-red meat studies are based on poorfag meats like bacon fried in corn oil or the aforementioned hamburgers. Vegetable oils are cancer and ruin everything they touch; if people ate fried chicken anywhere near as often as they ate fried red meat, it'd give off the same misleading warnings on a statistical level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 19:15:32 No.11108299 Report

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>>11108294
(i.e. red meat warnings are fried in cancer oil warnings and apply to anything friend in cancer oil.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 22:25:27 No.11108628 Report

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>>11106691
>>11106700
>>11106685
>>>/pol/
here we discuss science please
stop linking normie non-scientific blog articles or whatever the shit are those sources.
Scientific published and peer-reviewed articles or GTFO

Justin Ramsey

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Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 22:38:46 No.11108665 Report

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>>11108294
i went to kfc the other day for the first time in many years, because i got a coupon in the mail. It was the greasiest most disgusting thing i've eaten in many years, and it gave me diarhea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 22:41:01 No.11108676 Report

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>>11108628
Not reading at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 22:46:43 No.11108696 Report

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>>11108628
>Not reading at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Oct 2019 22:49:17 No.11108702 Report

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>>11108696
i won't read your stupid bullshit normie articles based on single and clickbait articles.
Especially if the websites you're linking are fucking "beefmagazine" and other bobo shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 02:06:41 No.11109136 Report

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>>11108702
>i won't read
See>>11108696 again
>Especially if the websites you're linking are fucking "beefmagazine" and other bobo shit
It's not bobo shit just because scientific, well reasoned and well researched facts hurt you're indoctrinated feelings

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 19:28:32 No.11110484 Report

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>>11108665
>Nothing new
Everyone knows that KFC stuff is poisoned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 20:29:53 No.11110584 Report

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>>11106685
>https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2752328/unprocessed-red-meat-processed-meat-consumption-dietary-guideline-recommendations-from
>https://peakhuman.libsyn.com/dr-david-klurfeld-on-meat-not-causing-cancer-bogus-vegetarian-scientists-and-balanced-nutrition

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 21:02:20 No.11110629 Report

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>>11094938
Health impact from diet is extremely hard to prove. You need to follow thousands of people for dozens of years. And all the time you're assuming they are giving honest answers to your questions. Also health is affected by many other things, which you then have to correct for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 23:04:15 No.11110845 Report

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>>11095089
>you stupid nigger
whoa whoa whoa wtffff
u better be black!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 23:07:55 No.11110855 Report

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>>11096732
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Nov 2019 23:26:25 No.11110885 Report

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>>11109136
>a normie article is scientific
try again loser
maybe think twice before droping high school

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2019 13:46:40 No.11112156 Report

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>>11107388
That's not fucking true, they do have good explanations, try to google "read meat heme iron cancer"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Nov 2019 15:28:23 No.11112300 Report

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>>11094938
Well uh you see.. you see.. um.. This question is an anti-semetic dog whistle!!!!

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