>>11096812>can't answer>resort to trollIf you are too full of yourself to recognize space make thermal regulation easier than a hell varying between ?17.2°C and ?107°C there's no reason to answer you.
>>11096823No one said the giant cylinder would come before the infrastructure. Don't confuse me with the martian who believe they'll 3D print their "new world" infrastructure from a few hundred BFR landed on Mars. The main difference is that I don't pretend a thousant people in thin can are colony until we've perfected self-sufficient space-habitat. Point at which scaling up is just a matter of economic efficiency and exploiting asteroids is a requirement
>>11096842Say the guy who believe he won't need a small nation worth of industries and farm to expand his pod-camp on Mars.
The O'neill cyclinder you seem to imagine is the biggest thing you could make using TODAY materials with 30% margin (it's not even carbon nanotube). It's essentially suspension bridge technology and heavy lifting which we will need anyway.
Since it require self-sufficient colony in SPACE (of any size) before landing on Mars, all you've been saying is that you'll send a bunch of people dependent on space welfare, claiming to be a colony until they are sent an industrialized country in kit, or a magical 3D printer to do so.
I simply don't believe in your gravity hole frontier and build the industry in orbit, exploiting the moon, asteroid and still colonizing space.
>>11096860No doubt but if you have that technology there, then you'll have it in space long before.
>>11096892Which is why the industries want to bring the asteroid/resources to the station instead of the reverse. It's only the Pioneer dude who can't imagine people being anywhere but the surface of Mars.
>large scale asteroid mining for OTHER reasonsWhatever your other reason are, it will be before any mars colony.
>>11096913It restrict severely the design with somewhat aerodynamic cargo spaceship, even using ballute.
