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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 19:40:44 2019 No.11071254 View Reply Original Report

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If I become good enough at math will I be able to predict the future of human society and manipulate it according to my wishes?

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 19:42:54 No.11071263 Report

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>>11071254
If the math itself becomes advanced enough, we might get something similar to psychohistory

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 21:00:09 No.11071444 Report

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>>11071254
Dude, why even bother?

Everybody has to go fuck themselves.

Most of your life is decided in the moment you are conceived. If you are dealt a shitty genetic hand, any future that "human society" might have will not concern you. You'll leave no descendants. The odds will be so staked against any success that you might have exploring "humanity's progress", that you will see that even when succesful, you'll still have spent way more effort to acquire the results that those people dealt a good genetic hand will acquire with no effort at all. You might as well coom your way to the grave. If you are on this board right now, the overwhelming chances is that your life has already failed and you're undergoing a 10-years long process of coping that will end in a suicide, no matter what your egomaniacal world-controlling ambitions might be.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 21:37:14 No.11071562 Report

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>>11071444
What does Chie have to do with this? Did you misspost?

That's not even covering your bizarre tangent and assumptions. Where did that even come from? We're talking about something completely different here. Even if somebody is born with bad genes, genetic engineering would be able to fix that.

If you're so hopeless about the future, why are you even interacting with other people at all? Cope, this is a science and math board, we're discussing science and math.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 21:41:44 No.11071575 Report

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>>11071254
>what is chaos
solve the relatively trivial double pendulum or 3-body problem first lol xD

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 21:43:37 No.11071584 Report

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>>11071254
>If I become good enough at math will I be able to predict the future of human society and manipulate it according to my wishes?
Why don't you try it and find out?

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 21:45:54 No.11071594 Report

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>>11071562
He's just fallen so deeply into nihilism that he has to spread it around to other people. He is not content to suffer alone

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 23:10:31 No.11071831 Report

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>>11071254
Not really.
You kinda need 3 ingredients to simulate the universe:
Initial conditions or just instantaneous position and velocity of all particles
A mathematical model with all forces and interactions between them
Computational power

If you cannot calculate positions and velocity, you kinda end up with cumulative error and a bad prediction.
Being "good enough at math" only helps with the 2nd part. Depending on the type of manipulation you want, you may need something else.

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Anonymous Fri 18 Oct 2019 23:16:00 No.11071848 Report

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I think he just mean society like how Ozymandius does it

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