>>11053369>How the hell did they even lose to arabs?War exhaustion from decades of conflicts with the greeks and civil war.
>>11054291>chinese>conquering anything China was conquered by every single retard crossing the border kek
>ottomonsOttomans were on the same technological level as the europeans during most of the middle age and Renaissance if not more thanks to greeks, they still lost to the HRE.
They would have been beaten by France anyway if they ever crossed (which was the real military and demographic powerhouse of Europe up until the post Napoleonic era).
