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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 18:38:09 2019 No.11045177 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11045198 >>11045240 >>11045441

Why do physicists believe QM is random if Bell's theorum allows determinism with non-locality?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 18:46:36 No.11045198 Report

Quoted By: >>11045432

>>11045177
No one has found any pattern in lab tests.
Find one and get your Nobel prize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 19:00:56 No.11045240 Report

Quoted By: >>11045264

>>11045177
non locality contradicts the laws of SR, which we believe to be hold.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 19:08:08 No.11045264 Report

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>>11045240
how does it contradict SR exactly? Does SR give an undefined answer in response to tachyons, or just a nonsense answer?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:14:04 No.11045432 Report

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>>11045198
Schrodinger equation. Gib prize.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:15:59 No.11045438 Report

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>>11045432
not the general pattern, retard.
the individual particles.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:16:26 No.11045441 Report

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>>11045177
Bell theorem allows determinism with locality. What was wrong were hidden variables.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:18:15 No.11045445 Report

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>>11045438
Individual particles obey schrodinger equation. Gib prize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:25:10 No.11045461 Report

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>>11045264
>tachyons
ftl -> time travel to the past -> causality violated

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:37:19 No.11045473 Report

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>>11045461
causality violations are only a problem in a non-deterministic system

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:41:54 No.11045480 Report

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>>11045473
even in many-worlds interpretation, your branch will always be deterministic since you will never interact with the other indeterminate ones

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:45:23 No.11045493 Report

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>>11045445
lab > equation

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:52:33 No.11045508 Report

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>>11045480
everything happening randomly with no way to predict the outcome is the exact opposite of deterministic. MWI only makes sense when you view it across all timelines

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:52:53 No.11045510 Report

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>>11045480
wut

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Anonymous Wed 09 Oct 2019 20:54:30 No.11045514 Report

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>>11045508
>>11045510
>they don't believe in fate
>they think they have free-will
>>>/x/

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