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This thread reminds me of an old joke.
A farmer asks for the help of a mathematician, a physicist and an engineer to help him build a fence with the largest inclosed area using the smallest amount of material. The physicist says "Build a circular fence to maximize area!" The mathematician says "Build a fence around yourself and declare that to be the outside, thus the rest of the universe is the inside!" The engineer says "I don't know much about fences, but I sure do want to suck your cocks!"
