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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 17:54:43 2019 No.11031721 View Reply Original Report

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>How dare you just sit there! We need to do something NOW!
>OK, like what?
>Uhh--.. uhh--... uhh--... uhh--... uhh--... uhh--... uhh--...
>How do we deal with the oil industry and the gazillionaires who run them? Is nuclear power a viable solution? Do we abolish capitalism? How do we get China on board with our grand plan?
>uhh-buuuuhhhhhh hurrrrrrr urgrgghhh sppfgggghh bghghghghghgh- whoozawhuh durrrhh mmgfffgghhhh
>sorry my brain isn't functioning righht um... uhhhh... eat less meat??

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 17:57:50 No.11031732 Report

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>>11031721
>What's a China?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:01:01 No.11031744 Report

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>>11031721
>>11031732
you just know its her parents pushing her to do this bs, i kind of feel sad for her. putting existential dread in her psyche so young

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:01:03 No.11031745 Report

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>>11031721
Did something like this actually happen? Or is OP just shitposting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:01:44 No.11031748 Report

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Imagine relying on a child to help you do your job
Imagine being so bored with your life that you post troll threads on /sci/ rather than finding a job and moving out of your parents' basement

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:02:31 No.11031749 Report

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>>11031721
Don't be mean, anon, she's just a child. She doesn't know what she's talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:06:09 No.11031757 Report

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>>11031721
EAT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:07:11 No.11031759 Report

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>>11031757
THE

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:07:49 No.11031762 Report

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>>11031757
MOR CHIKIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:08:46 No.11031766 Report

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>>11031759
BUGS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:08:56 No.11031767 Report

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>>11031759
BABIES

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:11:45 No.11031774 Report

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>>11031767
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:13:53 No.11031776 Report

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>>11031767
https://www.businessinsider.com/pro-trump-group-behind-aoc-protester-calling-to-eat-babies-2019-10

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:15:22 No.11031780 Report

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>>11031776
>we just want to kill them, not eat them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:15:59 No.11031781 Report

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>>11031776
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaRouche_movement

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:18:07 No.11031785 Report

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Why she already looks like a >30 ugly woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:19:43 No.11031791 Report

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>>11031785
found the pedo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:21:19 No.11031795 Report

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>>11031776
>"a far-right pro-Trump group called the LaRouche movement"
>google larouche movement
>"The LaRouche movement is a political and cultural network promoting the late Lyndon LaRouche and his ideas."
>go to lyndon larouche article
>"Political party"
>"Socialist Workers (1949–1964)"
>"Labor (1973–1979)"
>"Democratic (1979–2019)"
>a far-right pro-Trump group called the LaRouche movement

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:21:33 No.11031798 Report

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>>11031785
She got used by too many billionaires

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:22:27 No.11031801 Report

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>>11031791
but he's right you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:23:52 No.11031804 Report

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>>11031795
In 2004 and 2005, Kronberg made contributions of $1,501 to the Republican National Committee and the election campaign of George W. Bush

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:25:44 No.11031808 Report

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>>11031791
>implying I like >30 ugly women
>implying I like 30< ugly girls
also
>16yrs
>pedophilia
>puberty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:27:26 No.11031811 Report

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>>11031808
>seething pedo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:35:57 No.11031821 Report

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>>11031804
>$1,501
Shit he must have been a hardcore Conservative anacap fundamentalist if he invested that much into one presidential campaign, what's more the one where the opposition was a candidate of an ethnicity hated by a certain klan that was founded by the Democratic party in the 1860s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:38:44 No.11031829 Report

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>>11031721
>How do we get China on board with our grand plan?
Why is everyone ignorant of how much China is investing into renewables? They're gunna dominate the solar power industry for decades

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:39:07 No.11031831 Report

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>>11031721
>What does circumnavigating the world in a sailboat have to do with climate change?
>Uts uh solah powahd sellboot!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:40:20 No.11031837 Report

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>>11031829
You know how much rare earth metal it takes to make solar panels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:42:57 No.11031841 Report

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>>11031808
>puberty
She could easily be 12. She looks so young and fragile

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:45:23 No.11031846 Report

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>>11031821
I wouldn't give W a single cent.
Giving at all is the revealer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:46:54 No.11031852 Report

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>>11031821
"We're the party of Lincoln!"
they said while waving confederate flags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:47:10 No.11031853 Report

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>>11031837
So what? Is this a "we shouldn't buy shit from China" argument? Rare earth metals aren't exactly rare and you already have plenty in your electronics. That's not really a showstopper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:49:07 No.11031860 Report

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>>11031853
mining REMs creates a shit ton of pollution

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 18:51:29 No.11031869 Report

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>>11031829
*blocks your path*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:00:24 No.11031898 Report

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>>11031795
It makes sense if you know the history. The left considers them to be fake leftists and actual fascists.

http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/synthesis.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:03:17 No.11031905 Report

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>>11031721
You know, I don't understand.
If humans bad, why don't they follow their logic and kill themselves to save the Planet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:07:41 No.11031913 Report

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>>11031905
This is only viable if we kill everyone who doesn't care first. Which now that you mention it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:09:23 No.11031918 Report

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>>11031860
Exactly how much? What's total ghg emissions compared to other industries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:14:47 No.11031932 Report

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>>11031913
why not just kill the top five percent that:
>are in wealthy european or american countries
>are nowhere near living in poverty
>are constantly vocal about climate change
>dont own a buisness or create jobs
>are an artist, actor, academic, or entertainer
>insist poor people pay more taxes

hmmm..... really makes you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:15:26 No.11031934 Report

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>>11031913
I see, can't wait for the eco-terrorism to escalate to murder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:15:35 No.11031935 Report

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>>11031898
ah it's the old "anyone to the right of us extreme leftists is far right"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:16:53 No.11031940 Report

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>>11031934
they've been "removing" problematic dutch politicians for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:18:41 No.11031946 Report

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>>11031913
>oh, me? Im fighting for climate change so i dont have to pay the taxes or eat bugs. Im fightin so YOU are forced to do that
cringe

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:20:06 No.11031948 Report

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>>11031721
Are you having fun winning your imaginary debate with a sixteen year old, Anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:22:09 No.11031954 Report

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You know, I used to care but this is looking more and more dubious.
In the 90s they told us +1°C would be the End of the World, and here we are at +1°C, and we're actually doing much better at feeding people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:23:11 No.11031956 Report

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>>11031946
I can't tell if you're intentionally constructing a strawman because you have no argument, or if you're just actually that dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:23:46 No.11031957 Report

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>>11031860
How much do you need? What kind of pollution? Greenhouse gases? Local pollution? Could this be avoided if other countries like the US would start mining their rare earths?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:24:36 No.11031958 Report

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>>11031934
I'm personally rooting for the 4th Reich consisting of the entire EU, united by eco fascism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:25:59 No.11031962 Report

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>>11031956
im guessing "dosent care" is just someone that needs to work to stay out of poverty right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:26:03 No.11031963 Report

Quoted By: >>11031983 >>11031992 >>11033880

You know, ever since the Media started pushing eating less meat to Save muh Planet, I actually make sure I eat some twice every day.
We all know it's about being able to feed the great Nigger flood that's coming, and I say they just fucking starve as they always do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:31:40 No.11031981 Report

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>>11031962
Most working class people care quite a bit, but can't as they're forced to always select the cheapest most environmentally damaging goods and services as they don't have a choice. It's for this exact reason that individual consumer choice cannot solve this issue, but it requires collective action in the form of regulation.

It's beside the point as you've already constructed an idiotic false dichotomy that states that anyone who cares about environmental conservation should commit suicide, murdering "everyone else" is only the logical solution when working inside said idiotic false dichotomy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:32:37 No.11031983 Report

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>>11031963
Enjoy your gout

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:33:46 No.11031986 Report

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>>11031958
this would work better without the mass 3rd world immigration squandering local policies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:34:29 No.11031989 Report

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>>11031981
>cheapest most environmentally damaging goods
this is a basic contradiction in terms
essentially an oxymoron
cheapest implies least amount of energy required to produce and therefore least environmentally damaging.

You've never really been interested in science or engineering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:34:52 No.11031990 Report

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>>11031986
Yeah more like 4th Califate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:35:03 No.11031992 Report

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>>11031963
Dying of cardiac arrest by age 40, absolute king

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:35:51 No.11031993 Report

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>>11031721
>We know exactly what we need to do, consume less
NO THAT'S COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!

>what about regulating GHG emissions so destroying the planet doesn't provide massive financial incentives
NO THAT'S COMMUNISM!!!

>what about socializing the electricity sector so nuclear power is financially viable
NO THAT'S COMMUNISM!!!!

>well what's your free market solution?
Uhhh pretend the problem doesn't exist and hope I die before it effects me?
>....

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:36:20 No.11031994 Report

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>>11031992
I'm 37, now you got me worried.
Wait, no, fuck you, I feel stronk.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:36:27 No.11031995 Report

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>>11031981
Guess how I know you're a rich cunt gluttony apologist and BLOATED CONSUUUUUUUUUUMER
(emphasis on the U)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:38:34 No.11031998 Report

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>>11031932
you must have just watched Joker

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:40:58 No.11032001 Report

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>>11031932
Because the 90-95% would take their place?
Then you need to kill them again.
When do you stop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:42:34 No.11032003 Report

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>>11031989
>cheapest implies
but absolutely does not guarantee
You aren't very bright are you? Pop quiz, which do you think harms the environment more, a massive factory in a third world nation where there are absolutely no environmental regulations powered entirely with coal, or a factory using only recycled materials, green energy in a nation with strict fines for pollution. Now which product is cheaper?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:45:20 No.11032005 Report

Quoted By: >>11032014

>>11031986
The Reich will need foot soldiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:45:47 No.11032007 Report

Quoted By: >>11032012

Look, I stopped believing in all this bullshit, Water vapor is the sole driver of greenhouse effect in the atmosphere. CO2 does fucking nothing.
But leftist see it as an opportunity to steal people of their freedom, so they're all in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:47:21 No.11032012 Report

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>>11032007
>Water vapor is the sole driver of greenhouse effect in the atmosphere.
quick question what determines the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:48:22 No.11032014 Report

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>>11032005
You need a minimum IQ of 83 to perform at a basic level and follow orders in the army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:48:36 No.11032015 Report

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>>11032012
Not C02.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:48:58 No.11032017 Report

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>>11032015
what is it though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:49:16 No.11032019 Report

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>>11031993
emissions trading is a free market solution

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:50:54 No.11032023 Report

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>>11032003
The literal chasms in your understanding of the world are far too massive to even attempt to try and fill. Go and buy some fucking carbon offsets you fucking shyster. Encourage more consumerism in a different sector. It'll be good for muh ecomony, afterall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:51:08 No.11032025 Report

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>>11032019
I agree a cap and trade system would be very beneficial, now why does every conservative say it's evil communism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:51:58 No.11032026 Report

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>>11032017
Solar highs, precession of the Earth.
Could be anything, really.
I'd even give methane a thumbs up, but CO2 is so weak it doesn't make sense.
Now CO2 levels actually match the glacial temperature data we have.
But it could be that it just follows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:53:22 No.11032028 Report

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>>11031721
CHEAP COCKS
RICH ROACHES
EAT THE BUGS SAVE THE PLANET SAVE THE BLACKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:53:46 No.11032031 Report

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>>11032025
Party politics destroy everything, and I'm a conservative myself.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:54:49 No.11032035 Report

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>>11032026
>Solar highs, precession of the Earth.
neither of which are applicable at all the current warming.
>I'd even give methane a thumbs up, but CO2 is so weak it doesn't make sense.
you keep saying this but it disagrees with virtually all empirical observations, could you please provide your data?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:55:36 No.11032038 Report

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>>11032026
>Solar highs, precession of the Earth.
Can you back this up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:55:43 No.11032039 Report

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>>11032003
I see you sorta glossed over the word "energy" there, huh? Not a surprise from a lawyer/economist/shyster politician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:55:50 No.11032040 Report

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>>11032031
fix your party then

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:56:51 No.11032043 Report

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>>11032038
it's actually true this drives climate on a 100k year cycle, it's absolutely not applicable to current warming though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 19:59:49 No.11032051 Report

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>>11032038
Well, Earth's orbit is elliptical.
Earth's rotation axe slowly make a 360° in 12000 years.
Meaning more or less ocean is fed with more or less solar energy, as this happens.
Meaning the geography is actually important.
Plate tectonics should be accounted for.
There is too much variables to be honest.
But the one thing we know is that water vapor is the main driver of greenhouse effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:00:53 No.11032055 Report

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>>11032051
That's lot of coulds. Got anything solid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:01:41 No.11032058 Report

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>>11032055
Well that's much more solid science than CO2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:02:05 No.11032059 Report

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>>11032039
I'm honestly confused, are you actually dumb enough to think total energy consumption is the only thing that is factored into final cost, and even if it was fossil fuels are still the cheapest source of energy making your entire argument utterly idiotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:03:40 No.11032062 Report

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>>11032058
You keep saying this, without anything to back it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:04:13 No.11032065 Report

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>>11032035
Well, it just looks to me like we're going for another Ice age?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:05:15 No.11032068 Report

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>>11032062
Earth precession isn't science.
Orbital parameter of Earth aren't documented.
KYS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:06:34 No.11032074 Report

Quoted By: >>11032079

>>11032058
Incorrect. There has been ~1/3 increase in CO2 concentration over past century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:08:40 No.11032078 Report

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>>11032068
I think you're entirely confused at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:08:54 No.11032079 Report

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>>11032074
Well, yeah, but it's still fucking weak.
I'm not saying it will have no effects.
Just that you'll barely see them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:10:12 No.11032085 Report

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>>11032065
>>11031524

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:11:48 No.11032088 Report

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>>11032079
>it's still fucking weak.
Incorrect.

>https://web.archive.org/web/20060330013311/http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/spring04/atmo451b/pdf/RadiationBudget.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:13:49 No.11032094 Report

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>>11032079
could you explain these results?
>https://www.nature.com/articles/35066553

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:14:22 No.11032096 Report

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>>11032078
I think I'm OK.
>>11032085
They're confusing causes and effects.
>>11032088
Look, there will be effects of androgynous gg emissions, just not as much as you think, because the main elephant here is water vapor.
You wont have runaway vapor because it's not what the data shows.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:15:58 No.11032102 Report

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>>11032096
>androgynous gg emissions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:16:12 No.11032103 Report

Quoted By: >>11032108

>>11031946
The data shows co2 has a significant effect, where is your magic data which says otherwise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:18:34 No.11032108 Report

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>>11032103
My data is 30 years of buying this bullshit, and we didn't even need to rebuild our port because see level rise. In fact, we did absolutely nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:19:32 No.11032111 Report

Quoted By: >>11032125

>>11032096
>just not as much as you think
It's not what I think or not. That's not how science works. I've presented evidence. Water vapor doesn't matter because it's in the state of equilibrium. If it gets into atmosphere in increasing amount it means something happened to put that equilibrium in favour of gas state, which puts as back at "what did increased the amount of energy?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:20:07 No.11032113 Report

Quoted By: >>11034471

>>11032108
Sorry on /sci/ we dont consider anecdotal evidence to be valid, you seem very convinced though perhaps you have some empirical evidence stashed somewhere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:20:11 No.11032114 Report

Quoted By: >>11032283

I bet she knows where Epstein escaped to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:21:19 No.11032117 Report

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>>11031795
Quiet goy
Eat our propagand and obey

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:25:05 No.11032125 Report

Quoted By: >>11032139 >>11032146

>>11032111
How do I spell it.
CO2 impact on greenhouse is fucking nothing.
You could remove it from the atmosphere altogether, and we wouldn't freeze to death.
Maybe we were too quick drawing a direct relationship.
Maybe, because Earth is a living planet, does CO2 actually follows the temperature curve, because trees will be trees.
What I do know is that IPCC predicted we should be starving right now.
What I do know is that peak oil should have saved us from it.
Prophesies never actually happen.
The future is bright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:31:02 No.11032139 Report

Quoted By: >>11032163

>>11032125
>CO2 impact on greenhouse is fucking nothing.
Quantify "fucking nothing"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:33:21 No.11032146 Report

Quoted By: >>11032163

>>11032125
>You could remove it from the atmosphere altogether, and we wouldn't freeze to death.
citation please

>What I do know is that IPCC predicted we should be starving right now.
really? can you give me a link?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:40:26 No.11032163 Report

Quoted By: >>11032165 >>11032172

>>11032139
CO2 is 0.4% of the atmosphere.
Should I continue?
>>11032146
Of course not, they don't do these.

>can you give me a link?
Of course not, their website is the most unprofessional place I've ever been.
But I remember them saying crops failing by 2020 if +1°C warming, when it's never been that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:40:44 No.11032165 Report

Quoted By: >>11032171

>>11032163
>Should I continue?
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:43:35 No.11032169 Report

Quoted By: >>11032189

>>11032059
>are you actually dumb enough to think total energy consumption is the only thing that is factored into final cost
Are you actually dumb enough to think total energy consumption isn't literally THE BEST predictor of final cost??
>I'm confused
Yes you are. You're a devout follower of the toxic market worshipper cult - a cult which is literally bringing the biosphere to it's knees and threatening the long term viability of the human speices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:44:13 No.11032171 Report

Quoted By: >>11032192

>>11032165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdhnhknaJOg&t=5s
Let me help you, the reason the range is so wide is because seasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:44:19 No.11032172 Report

Quoted By: >>11032183

>>11032163
>Of course not
yeah that's what I thought.

>CO2 is 0.4% of the atmosphere.
why does the % matter? the greenhouse effect from CO2 is a result of how much CO2 is in the atmosphere, the ratio to other gasses doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:46:56 No.11032183 Report

Quoted By: >>11032193

>>11032172
Because Water is around 50%? all the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:47:33 No.11032184 Report

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>>11032058
>>11032051
>my speculative asspulls are more scientific than decades of research on CO2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:48:47 No.11032189 Report

Quoted By: >>11032195 >>11032218 >>11032222

>>11032169
THE BEST predictor of final cost??
it's absolutely not, you can't just ignore things like cost of labor, cost of complying with environmental regulations, and COST OF FUCKING ENERGY. I'm pretty sure you just have brain damage at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:48:53 No.11032190 Report

Quoted By: >>11032212

>>11032184
Look, it's ok to be wrong.
They just won't admit it, because they'll look stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:49:43 No.11032192 Report

Quoted By: >>11032197

>>11032171
>Youtube
Using Youtube videos as scientific document is a symptom of brainletism.

>range is so wide is because seasons
Obviously there is variation. However can you explain the upwards trend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:50:08 No.11032193 Report

Quoted By: >>11032207

>>11032183
so water vapor can't cause any changes in temp on it's own, as it remains stable without pre existing changes in temp, is what you're saying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:50:24 No.11032195 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032189
>cost of labor, cost of complying with environmental regulations
labor costs energy
complying with regulations costs energy

You're fucking retarded. Have a beer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:51:28 No.11032197 Report

Quoted By: >>11032205 >>11032212

>>11032192
Yeah, now you tell me moisture doesn't exist.
I bet you've got it all planed out where you'll be telling people what they can eat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:53:02 No.11032205 Report

Quoted By: >>11032217

>>11032197
Are you responding to a wrong post or do you have braindamage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:54:28 No.11032207 Report

Quoted By: >>11032220

>>11032193
It fluctuates.
Precession would cause the Pacific to heat up more causing more evaporation.
There really are too many factors to this data.
volcanism, Life and shit.
With C02 they have a perfect culprit. but it will never deliver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:55:26 No.11032212 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032197
>>11032190
Feels like arguing with a facebook boomer who keeps saying "nu-uh" to all the evidence that has been posted

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:56:57 No.11032217 Report

Quoted By: >>11032226

>>11032205
I'm gonna try to be simple enough for your biased mind.
What you were told is that CO2 is the ONLY driver to Surface temperature.
It's far from true.
Therefore the +7°C prediction the IPCC recently made is absolute bollocks, and akin to terrorism IMO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:57:10 No.11032218 Report

Quoted By: >>11032228

>>11032189
One of the main problems with you market worshipper cultists is that you're incapable of viewing things absent dollars and cents (an extremely flawed human construct). You should try and view things in terms of energy instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:58:39 No.11032220 Report

Quoted By: >>11032229

>>11032207
>Precession
as yes which would cause measureable changes in total solar irrradiance correct? perhaps you could cite this data which totally exists right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 20:59:32 No.11032222 Report

Quoted By: >>11034357

>>11032189
energy and materials, like metals etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:01:05 No.11032226 Report

Quoted By: >>11032230

>>11032217
>What you were told is that CO2 is the ONLY driver to Surface temperature
What I've been told by whom? You?
>It's far from true.
How does that matter? Historically there have been many factors driving the change in climate, however greenhouse effect driven by sharp increase in carbon dioxide and methane is the current driver.
>Therefore the +7°C prediction the IPCC recently
Cease thine brainletism. IPCC makes a wide range of predictions based on different models. This is worst case scenario at the end of the century IIRC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:01:33 No.11032228 Report

Quoted By: >>11032236

>>11032218
so just to clarify your position, final market value always means less damage to the environment? Correct?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:02:14 No.11032229 Report

Quoted By: >>11032244 >>11032255

>>11032220
I don't even need to.
Precession is fact.
Orbital parameters of Earth are known.
Meaning parts of the Earth will receive more light overall at a given time.
And when this part is the Pacific ocean, well, you will get more greenhouse water.
It's called logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:03:16 No.11032230 Report

Quoted By: >>11032233

>>11032226
>What I've been told
You fucking know what I mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:03:56 No.11032233 Report

Quoted By: >>11032234

>>11032230
No, I don't. I have degree in chemistry, not schizo rambling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:04:37 No.11032234 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032233
Just pretending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:05:41 No.11032236 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032228
>[final market value is proportional to environmental damage]
exactly. its a pretty good predictor - the best predictor. its not exact because its impossible to account for things like systemic corruption, and distorted valuation due to monopoly, quasi-forced labour etc..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:08:56 No.11032244 Report

Quoted By: >>11032246 >>11032267

>>11032229
This has been very rigorously characterized and it's what precipitates the glacial/ interglacial cycles, with CO2 being the major driver of temperature during a deglaciation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:10:53 No.11032246 Report

Quoted By: >>11032265

No, but seriously.
Is there any way to pull anything from the ipcc website?
Try it for yourself:
https://www.ipcc.ch/
>>11032244
As I already said, this might just be that C02 levels FOLLOW temperature rises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:13:24 No.11032255 Report

Quoted By: >>11032272

>>11032229
So has precession changed significantly over the past 100 years? I can't find any data which says it has, when your predictions relies heavily on this fact.

>Orbital parameters of Earth are known
very well actually which, is a little odd for you, beause I can't find anything which states there's been a shift over the past 100 years which could explain current temp trends. perhaps you can enlighten us

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:15:16 No.11032262 Report

Quoted By: >>11032349 >>11032381

>>11031744
I feel bad for her because she's made a legion of enemies and she's just a kid. And this shit is global, she can't just move to another country and be forgotten about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:15:44 No.11032265 Report

Quoted By: >>11032282

>>11032246
There are mountains of evidence that show CO2 is the main driver, you just refuse to accept it
>Global warming preceded by increasing carbon dioxide concentrations during the last deglaciation” -- Jeremy D. Shakun, Nature 2012
>https://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/14/3/pdf/i1052-5173-14-3-4.pdf
>Positive feedback between global warming and atmospheric CO2 concentration inferred from past climate change” – Scheffer et al., Geophysical Research Letters, 2006

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:16:13 No.11032267 Report

Quoted By: >>11032270

>>11032244
All bets are on.
If I look at >>11032035
We're in for another Ice age.
This can go anywhere, but I think we over exacerbated the problem. By a few factors.
Now, will there be consequences to putting so much CO2 in the atmosphere? yes. But we're not bad enough that it matters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:17:38 No.11032270 Report

Quoted By: >>11032273

>>11032267
>it doesn't matter hurr

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:17:55 No.11032272 Report

Quoted By: >>11032288

>>11032255
Do you even know what precession is?
Did you look at the data?
I'll help you: It shows that ice caps quickly melt away every fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:18:56 No.11032273 Report

Quoted By: >>11032280

>>11032270
Well, no, it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:19:35 No.11032276 Report

Quoted By: >>11032289 >>11032297

>>11032025
1. Nobody is saying its communism
2. Conservative voters love the idea. The Republican politicians who collect lobbyist bux from the oil industry don't
Just make lobbying illegal and you solve half of America's problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:20:27 No.11032280 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032273
>it doesn't matter because I say so
Iron clad argumentative skills

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:21:08 No.11032282 Report

Quoted By: >>11032290

>>11032265
You all are fucking retarded.
You know what if there ever was a conspiracy, that's it.
Everything is gonna be fine.
Did you even think that was a possibility for your future?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:21:13 No.11032283 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032114
Fridays for Future and XR are fronts for recruiting new child sex slaves using her as bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:21:41 No.11032286 Report

Quoted By: >>11032291

>ctrl+f incel
>0 results
I'm proud of /sci/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:21:55 No.11032288 Report

Quoted By: >>11032295

>>11032272
every 50,0000 years, which we aren't even close to so i'm afraid your claims are utter non sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:22:11 No.11032289 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032276
It's communism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:22:32 No.11032290 Report

Quoted By: >>11032299

>>11032282
>doesn't post any evidence just boomer tier arguments
I don't know why I even bother

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:22:32 No.11032291 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032286
t. incel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:23:47 No.11032295 Report

Quoted By: >>11032301

>>11032288
>spits in your face.
Let me bet, you never heard of it before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:25:10 No.11032297 Report

Quoted By: >>11032327

>>11032276
>1. Nobody is saying its communism
might want to double check with your fellow conservatives

>2.

yeah but shouldn't you do something about a political party that isn't beholden to it's voters interests?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:26:16 No.11032299 Report

Quoted By: >>11032311 >>11032316

>>11032290
Oh, yeah, I'm old therefore my take is invalid.
Do what you think is good.
Just don't be surprised when I shoot you for arresting me for eating meat, because that's where we're going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:26:32 No.11032301 Report

Quoted By: >>11032305

>>11032295
it's an easy argument to win, just show some data that shows changes in the earths orbit over the past 100 years which has increased the TSI received by the ocean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:26:40 No.11032302 Report

Quoted By: >>11032947 >>11032962

>>11031745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwLt_5t73g

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:27:40 No.11032305 Report

Quoted By: >>11032309 >>11032315

>>11032301
Precession is a fucking 12000 year process.
You don't know anything, do you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:29:01 No.11032309 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032305

so where's the data?

I'm waiiiiting

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:29:25 No.11032311 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032299
Age is not the problem, you're just arguing with asspulls and zero evidence

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:30:02 No.11032315 Report

Quoted By: >>11032321 >>11032341

>>11032305
so wait, you're saying it's too slow to have anything to do with current warming?
I think you might be right.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:30:05 No.11032316 Report

Quoted By: >>11032325

>>11032299
>Just don't be surprised when I shoot you for arresting me for eating meat, because that's where we're going.
lmao, the meems are real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:32:13 No.11032321 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032315
Earth obvious react to it.
just look at >>11032035
Isn't it obvious a civilization drove itself to extinction at each of those peaks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:33:16 No.11032325 Report

Quoted By: >>11034614

>>11032316
Well, that's where we're going.
It's so fucking sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:33:54 No.11032327 Report

Quoted By: >>11032329

>>11032297
If anything, I'm a classical liberal who likes the idea of a governmet option for essential services. Neither party wants to represent me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:35:45 No.11032329 Report

Quoted By: >>11032340

>>11032327
Yeah, but that is all communism.
They'll control what you eat.
If you eat at all, that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:41:30 No.11032338 Report

Quoted By:

>>11031905
Let the overton window keep its course and eventually the leftists will kill themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:41:57 No.11032340 Report

Quoted By: >>11032348

>>11032329
Key word being "option". If you don't like the quality of service with the USPS, you can always switch to FedEx for example. I hate the USSR for being authoritarian more than anything. People were murdered just for speaking out against the party.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:42:09 No.11032341 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032315
I'm saying nothing in pre-civilization data makes sense in the optics of CO2 global warming.
We know the human race almost died off 12000 years ago because genetic data.
12000 years ago... Wait a minute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:44:56 No.11032348 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032340
Friend, I'd start stocking up food if I were you.
Not because of global warming, but because of your fellow humans.
We're reaching levels of insane that shouldn't be possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:45:23 No.11032349 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032262
>she can't just move to another country and be forgotten about
Nope, she'll have to drop her act and wait a few months, damn, this got to be hard, withdrawal effects from lack of attention is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 21:56:50 No.11032371 Report

Quoted By:

Communists love economic growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:00:23 No.11032377 Report

Quoted By:

>>11031745
OP is a fag and a shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:01:35 No.11032381 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032262
I feel bad for her because she can't quit without being ridiculous, even if she realize she was retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:02:49 No.11032389 Report

Quoted By: >>11032525

I hope someone btfo the ipcc someday.
The only thing they got right is that more CO2 is more warming.
But what we can achieve is fucking nothing degrees, even if we tried hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:16:29 No.11032421 Report

Quoted By: >>11032439

I fucking wasted my life believing more humans is bad.
Therefore I didn't engage with females.
Divorce was a thing, so It looked fishy.
But you're telling me this was all for nothing?
I'm willing to bet I'm not the only one.
So it was all about population replacement all along, wasn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:21:39 No.11032434 Report

Quoted By:

How silent has it become now that everyone knows about H2O.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:23:05 No.11032439 Report

Quoted By: >>11032451

>>11032421
some of it is a natural consequence of certain technological improvements, but they have deliberately acted to make it worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:26:03 No.11032451 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032439
Well it's all a lie.
White people think they'd better be extinct for some reason.
What a fucking nightmare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:40:17 No.11032507 Report

Quoted By:

Hello?
Did the gommunists leave this board for good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:45:36 No.11032520 Report

Quoted By:

>>11031757
>>11031759
>>11031766
Why are people so upset about this idea of eating bugs? I've heard multiple super-right wing people I know IRL complaining about how "liberals want us to eat bugs!" with various conflicting details which makes me think there was a fox special on it or something, but honestly it doesn't sound bad. If the bugs are prepared to taste good, they're cheap, convenient, and they're good for you, what's the problem? I would eat bugs if they checked all those boxes. Currently there are no bugs on the market that fit those things though so I'm sticking with burgers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:46:53 No.11032525 Report

Quoted By: >>11032540

>>11032389
What makes you think that? Any peer reviewed article to back that claim? Or is that just some nonsense the drunk uncle rambles during the family reunion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:47:06 No.11032526 Report

Quoted By: >>11032707

I still can't calm down.
I'm pretty sure next thing will be media reporting white birth for sandniggers to kill.
That passive stance needs to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 22:49:43 No.11032540 Report

Quoted By: >>11032627 >>11032693 >>11032699

>>11032525
Well, they're right that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
Except it's fucking shit at its job vs water.
Now it dies actually raises temperatures, but it does fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 23:15:48 No.11032627 Report

Quoted By: >>11032879

>>11032540
you keep saying this, hoping we'll believe you without evidence. Unfortunately that's not how things work around here, substantiate your claims, or we can just laugh at you for being a gullible retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 23:37:03 No.11032693 Report

Quoted By: >>11032707

>>11032540
You feel bad about what she says?
Feel bad for her. She just got trapped into her own rhetoric. One hesitation, one attempt to backpedal and her life is fucking ruined.
Blame her parents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 23:38:50 No.11032699 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032540
>Except it's fucking shit at its job vs water
[citation needed]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Oct 2019 23:39:27 No.11032707 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032693
Meant to
>>11032526

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:04:50 No.11032879 Report

Quoted By: >>11032916 >>11032923

>>11032627
Nothim, but here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6sKPSKkvVs
@3:40

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:19:53 No.11032908 Report

Quoted By:

>>11031762
based and unironically correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:23:32 No.11032916 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032879
The money has been deposited into your account.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:26:45 No.11032923 Report

Quoted By: >>11032931

>>11032879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:33:09 No.11032931 Report

Quoted By: >>11032932 >>11032941

>>11032923
1. He cares about feeding everyone, which is why he started Greenpeace, and is why he now works as a lobbyist.
2. There was no way for him to verify the concentration and they might have gotten it wrong by an order or two of magnitude. Of course he would 'freak out', or rather be offended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:33:49 No.11032932 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032931
Additional funds have been deposited into your account.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:34:18 No.11032934 Report

Quoted By:

>>11031721
>16 year old girl
>informed on scientific facts
>advocates for policy change she believes is important
>grown manchildren have only misrepresentations, exaggerations, and outright pseudoscience as counterarguments and are extremely triggered by being BTFO by a little girl
based Greta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:39:25 No.11032941 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032931
>He cares about feeding everyone
No he doesn't.
>which is why he started Greenpeace
He didn't start Greenpeace.
>and is why he now works as a lobbyist
He does it for money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:43:51 No.11032947 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032302
This made me cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:52:34 No.11032960 Report

Quoted By:

>>11031721
You hit the nail on the head with "abolish capitalism". This climate change movement is capitalism trying to save itself. It will fail, of course. But this also means that anthropogenic global warming is 100% real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 01:54:05 No.11032962 Report

Quoted By:

>>11032302
I actually said 'oof' out loud a couple times while watching this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:02:35 No.11032973 Report

Quoted By:

I wanna fug her square face and cum on her delicate Dutch neck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:02:42 No.11032974 Report

Quoted By: >>11032983

>>11031804
>Bush
>Republican
>this is somehow pro Trump now

Why though?

>>11031898
Despite being known as a radical crazy organization, you'll find that most of Larouche's ideas weren't actually that bad. In fact if we implemented some of their terraforming concepts we could become completely energy independent while providing positive benefits to the environment. Unfortunately it involves actually manipulating the environment initially so they've been memed into the radicals they are today by leftist environmentalist like >>11031935 says.

>>11031721
>When you can't use logic or reason to support your argument so you drag out an autistic child to appeal to the emotions of stupid people in order to gain charisma points and "win".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:11:21 No.11032983 Report

Quoted By: >>11032986

>>11032974
>When you can't use logic or reason to support your argument so you drag an autistic child to appeal to the emotions of stupid people in order to gain charisma points and "win".
FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:13:34 No.11032986 Report

Quoted By: >>11033046

>>11032983
logic and reason support the theory of anthropogenic global warming

scientifically illiterate denialtards will disagree

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:55:08 No.11033046 Report

Quoted By: >>11033049 >>11033050

>>11032986
>logic and reason support the theory of anthropogenic global warming
No because there is no empirical evidence nor scientific method to test such a false hypothesis. Using logic and reason would mean that you would actually have to observe

>scientifically illiterate denialtards will disagree

Testable explanation for your hypothesis, please. No, CO2 does not cause warming. Warming causes CO2. That's why when you burn things really hot they make this stuff called "smoke" which has CO2 in it, not the other way around. A hypothesis is only scientific if there is the possibility to disprove it. Otherwise it's just a religion and you should take your bike and suitcase to another town next Saturday morning.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:58:22 No.11033049 Report

Quoted By: >>11033081

>>11033046

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 02:59:27 No.11033050 Report

Quoted By: >>11033081

>>11033046
Like this empirical evidence? Or carbon isotope analysis showing dilution by fossil fuel carbon-12 in the atmosphere?
>warming causes CO2
Prove it. Paleoclimate reconstructions show a relatively high correlation between CO2 levels and global mean temperature despite significant error sources, but no significant evidence for a delay between one or the other. You also have no theoretical explanation for such a correlation. "Dude smoke" isn't exactly convincing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:03:30 No.11033060 Report

Quoted By: >>11033083

>>11031932
Worked out really well during October revolution?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:09:41 No.11033074 Report

Quoted By:

Living rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:11:40 No.11033081 Report

Quoted By: >>11033109

>>11033049
>>11033050
so you think that a 200 year data set is enough to make knowledgeable conclusions on a 5+ billion old planet? That's rich, especially from a statistics standpoint.

>Prove it

Okay. I just lit my grill outside. It indeed created smoke. Just like every other grill and fire that is undergoing this age old process we dubbed "combustion". It produces smoke. Smoke has CO2. Where was the CO2 before the heat was introduced? Would the CO2 ever have been produced without heat? If your answer is "no" then I wouldn't recommend you apply as a firefighter anytime soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:12:05 No.11033083 Report

Quoted By:

>>11033060
the commies did that and the commies won, so uh, yes

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:14:17 No.11033086 Report

Quoted By: >>11033100 >>11033855

The oil has to stay in the ground

They can't put us all in jail

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:21:45 No.11033092 Report

Quoted By: >>11033158

>>11031995
>consumer23.jpg
How many consumer images do you have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:26:10 No.11033100 Report

Quoted By:

>>11033086
They have enough bullets for you all, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:30:45 No.11033109 Report

Quoted By: >>11033115 >>11033156

>>11033081
>a long history disproves basic atmospheric principles
The greenhouse effect has been well understood for over 110 years.
>smoke from fires is the only way CO2 is produced
Are you a child?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:31:48 No.11033115 Report

Quoted By:

>>11033109
excuse me, 120 years

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:53:20 No.11033156 Report

Quoted By: >>11033678

>>11033109
>over 110 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 03:54:21 No.11033158 Report

Quoted By: >>11033197 >>11033893

>>11033092
>How many consumer images do you have?
Not him but german tank problem says.
$N \approx 23 + {23\over2} -1 = 33.5$

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 04:11:49 No.11033197 Report

Quoted By: >>11033221

>>11033158
thats wrong though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 04:25:45 No.11033221 Report

Quoted By: >>11034977

>>11033197
It's an estimation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 04:44:01 No.11033258 Report

Quoted By: >>11033578

>>11032019
>emissions trading
>a government regulated system of emissions control provided through limited-licensing processes
>free market
What the fuck do you people even mean when you say "free market"? Because it definitely isn't a lack of, or reduced, regulation on the market. You seem to think free market means heavily regulating the market in favor of the owners and elites, effectively locking the wealth away from the people who actually produce it with their labor.

Why is anyone who argues for a "free market" effectively braindead about their own position in the market?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 04:47:16 No.11033266 Report

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Will we ever move beyond climate hysteria and constant crawling all over each other to dab on the deniers/libtards/globalists/et. al?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 09:10:38 No.11033578 Report

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>>11033258
Emissions trading is creating a new market, there is no existing market that is being more heavily regulated.

>You seem to think free market means heavily regulating the market in favor of the owners and elites, effectively locking the wealth away from the people who actually produce it with their labor.
In Australia, revenue from carbon trading translated into an income tax cut for households.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 09:48:13 No.11033623 Report

Quoted By: >>11033637

OH MY GOD THERE'S TOO MUCH CO2
IF ONLY WE COULD GENETICALLY ENGINEER AN ORGANISM THAT BREATHES IN CO2 AND BREATHES OUT O2
WE COULD MAKE IT POWERED BY SUNLIGHT, AND HAVE IT USE WIND TO SPREAD ACROSS THE PLANET WITHOUT OUR HELP
HOW I WISH IT WERE THE FUTURE BUT NO WE ARE DOOMED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 09:51:55 No.11033628 Report

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In all seriousness though, eating less meat would go a long way to reducing our emissions. If you have to eat meat, try to go for chicken since it is more efficient at converting feed into meat for consumption.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 09:57:37 No.11033637 Report

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>>11033623
it will be the ultimate witch king good house

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:24:59 No.11033666 Report

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>>11031721
https://youtu.be/golAjKMDuVk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:35:45 No.11033674 Report

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>>11033628
Reducing food waste and localizing food production is far more efficient. The ecological effects of meat-eating are greatly overstated and pastoral grassland is actually a carbon sink. That's not even factoring in the possibility of creating biogas on meat and dairy ranches/farms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:42:21 No.11033678 Report

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>>11033156
>the effect may be considerable in a few centuries
>published in 1912
nothing to worry about then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:47:41 No.11033684 Report

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>>11033678
it's gotten worse since then, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:49:28 No.11033687 Report

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>>11033628
In theory yes. But we all know population would just grow to match food output.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:50:30 No.11033689 Report

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>>11033684
Has it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:53:57 No.11033694 Report

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>>11033689
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:54:10 No.11033695 Report

Quoted By: >>11033878

You're all hallucinating about a crisis that simply isn't there.
Everything is absolutely fine, just disconnect from Media brainwashing for a little while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 10:56:34 No.11033699 Report

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>>11033694
Hi, Maltus.
I was you before, but now I know better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 11:46:43 No.11033725 Report

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>>11033674
>biogas on meat and dairy ranches/farms
this is a way over stated concept
Cows are already such highly efficient fermenters that the fermentable biogas yield is laughable, it makes sense for monogastrics like chickens or pigs but if you're using cow slurry then you;re going to be relying on adding other feedstocks to increase the energy content.
the only significant role it seems to serve is deactivating weed seeds.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 11:52:26 No.11033732 Report

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>>11033725
Thank you for the added information, I'm not too well-versed on that particular element.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 11:55:49 No.11033734 Report

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>>11033732
Most of the denizens of this board are experts about bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:19:04 No.11033849 Report

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>>11031721 At least she's raising attention to the underlying problems. Behaviour and lifestyle change are part of the solution. As is legitimacy, awareness, acceptance and increasing man-power. Her Monbiot video was great for example. I hope she turns to these questions later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:24:22 No.11033853 Report

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She kicked the climate deniers right in the balls and they are squirming on the ground screaming their lungs out.

It's over faggots. Make way for science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:26:07 No.11033855 Report

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>>11033086
>They can't put us all in jail
They will try. 99% sure shit will get violent before this is over. Possibly, multiple wars will be fought. Possibly WWIII.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:32:11 No.11033861 Report

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>>11033699
>i have no argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:43:25 No.11033878 Report

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>>11033695
Yes let's stop listening to the media and look directly at the evidence. Oh, turns out there is a massive amount of published scientific research showing it exists and it's bad.

And for your next post please capitalize more random words so that we can really get the emphasis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:43:57 No.11033880 Report

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>>11031963
Based meat poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:48:19 No.11033888 Report

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>>11033878
Plus as this point most people living today have experienced climate change personally.
Most drastic changes have been happening in the last 20 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 13:51:31 No.11033893 Report

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>>11033158
Shouldnt it be 23+23/1-1=45? Since you only have one sample

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:23:09 No.11033951 Report

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>>11031829
>They're gunna dominate the solar power industry for decades
how do you know that
also fuck solar nuke is the way to go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:24:11 No.11033954 Report

Quoted By: >>11033962

Her speech was not even addressed at Americans, even though American retards made it about themselves.
Her speech was addressed at fake progressives. Those who champion climate action in public, but secretly put roadblocks and stall climate change action in private. This happens to be 99% of world leaders currently in power.
But American Republican retards made it about themselves and the rest of the world leaders were happy to let them take the blow while they stay silent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:25:01 No.11033956 Report

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>>11033951
>how do you know that
Because they are the only one investing. Why isn't Switzerland a major player in the automotive industry and Germany is? Investments at the right time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:29:13 No.11033960 Report

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>>11033956
They aren't the only ones investing. All over Europe,universities are researching solor tech.

But China might get an advantage when it comes to manufacturing, especially when it comes to manufacturing capacity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:30:54 No.11033962 Report

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>>11033954
This. Trump doesn't even dare pretend he's doing something. I don't know if it makes him better. He's no hypocrite, but just a downright asshole. Anyway, the "how dare you" speech was certainly not directed at him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 14:33:07 No.11033965 Report

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>>11033960
Universities researching isn't the same as pumping billions in companies. Sure, occasionally you have a major breakthrough from one of your O(100) phd students working on a problem, but Germany has sacrificed 80.000 jobs in the renewable sector.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 16:11:26 No.11034099 Report

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>>11033951
>how do you know that
There's this new thing called the internet, you should try it sometime.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-china-is-dominating-the-solar-industry/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/sep/12/how-china-dominates-solar-power
http://www.altenergystocks.com/archives/2018/11/how-china-came-to-dominate-solar-manufacturing/

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 17:11:47 No.11034223 Report

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Can anyone enlighten me as to why biofuel/biogas would be in any way better than the stuff we get from ground? Seems like very inefficient use of money. I mean, one would think that if we're all supposed to die in 8 years, efficient use of resources might be advisable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:13:01 No.11034357 Report

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>>11032222
Check'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:20:12 No.11034381 Report

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>>11033333

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:32:41 No.11034419 Report

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>>11031785
vegetarian

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:35:52 No.11034428 Report

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>>11033893
see
>>11031995
>>11032023

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:46:10 No.11034459 Report

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>>11031745
it's certainly shitposting, but this is basically what the argument had boiled down to. whatever the case, they need more of your money to figure it out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:52:07 No.11034469 Report

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>>11034223
Just a pure carbon perspective:
If you dig up oil/gas and burn it, you add CO2 to the atmosphere.
If plants grow, CO2 is being extracted from the atmosphere. So if you process those plants and make biogas/-fuel, by burning that, you only add CO2 to the atmosphere that was extracted very recently.

Fossil fuel also consists of biomass, but that biomass extracted CO2 from the atmosphere hundreds of millions of years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:52:15 No.11034471 Report

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>>11032113
are you not aware that to many people, older ones mostly, it looks like the boy who cried wolf at this point?
wonder why they need a child to get more people on board with the plan..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:54:21 No.11034475 Report

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H O W D A R E Y O U

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:54:29 No.11034477 Report

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>>11031932
2nd this movement
wonder how much pollution this would save while we're at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 18:59:52 No.11034487 Report

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>>11034223
Because... if you grow your hydrocarbons with photosynthesis it captures the same amount of CO2 you're releasing later when you burn them. Only problem now is you need a huge amount of farmland which could otherwise be used for growing food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 20:00:05 No.11034614 Report

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>>11032325
there is a way to change the world without having to point gun at anyone. Is there a scientist pointing a gun at every smoker? it doesn't take a gun to make peole realize that inhaling smoke is probably bad for your health.
all we need is for retards like you to learn actual science and the when theres enough people who care we stop investing shit in coal when there's more jobs in other industries (many of them dont require huge technical skills, just different) while your most rotting coal congested fuck of a brain cant adapt and shitting in your home with diarrhea or 2 variants of lung diseases.
can you boomer just collectively neck yourselves already? you are a waste of apace and will be for the next 50 year s living with amnesia and shitting on your bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 20:35:44 No.11034702 Report

Quoted By: >>11034838 >>11035053

>We must quickly switch entirely to renewable energy and close all gas and coal plants very very quickly!

On top of needing to build thousands of massive solar and wind farms all around the country, which are very land hungry and almost certain to wind up completed over budget and late, you'd need to also build up an unprecedented energy storage infrastructure. The US currently has 25 gwh of energy storage-and most of that is through dams, which are almost impossible to build on a large scale due to their disruptive effects and are also typically very very VERY slow to get approved and built. Thermal or battery storage can work, but they are also very land-hungry-you can't just stack batteries full of lithium or hot molten salts up like cordwood,you need them spread out so they can be accessed for repairs and in the battery's case so if one stack bursts into flames the whole thing doesn't go off. Tesla's much ballyhooed austrailian battery can pump out 70 mw for 10 minutes-and it's bigger than 2 football fields.
Let me put something to all of you-California has invested something like 100 billion dollars into renewable energy. Virtually none of this has been used on storage. had they instead used that money to build modern, highly safe nuclear power plants, they would be at 100% carbon free power right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 21:08:47 No.11034776 Report

Quoted By: >>11035047

ravioli ravioli
don't bully climate loli

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 21:25:37 No.11034828 Report

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asdf

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 21:29:13 No.11034838 Report

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>>11034702
>Let me put something to all of you-California has invested something like 100 billion dollars into renewable energy.

where are you getting your numbers from?
by the way 100Bn doesn't even buy you 5 nuclear plants at the moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 21:32:16 No.11034845 Report

Quoted By: >>11034934

>>11031721
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand climatecucks self-destruct as predicted by Uncle Ted. The entire technological system must be abolished if you hope to do anything about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 22:07:30 No.11034934 Report

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>>11034845
AGW is exactly the kind of disastrous environmental consequence of civilization that motivates Kaczynski's entire philosophy. The situation is not quite yet ripe for radicalism, and that option is far more dangerous, but perhaps also inevitable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 22:27:28 No.11034977 Report

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>>11033221
no shit. your estimation is wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 22:50:55 No.11035042 Report

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It's all such a farce
>oh no, the world is gonna end unless we stop air travel and establish an ecofascist dictatorship
>I'll just have a whole yachting crew flown in from the US in the meantime, that ought to save some CO2
I can respect people who believe that bullshit and actually act like it, but most people who claim to be concerned about "climate change" can't be arsed to do anything that would involve non-trivial amount of effort or would mean a significant reduction of comfort, which mostly likely includes all the faggots in this thread going on about CO2 and anthropogenic climate change.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 22:52:02 No.11035047 Report

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>>11034776
She's no loli, she's a larping hag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Oct 2019 22:54:17 No.11035053 Report

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>>11034702
Why are people even so obsessed with renewables? I thought that the big bad is CO2, so why are they suddenly so concerned about oil and gas reserves?

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