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Anonymous Thu 26 Sep 20:53:39 2019 No.11006830 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11006842 >>11006929 >>11007477 >>11007518 >>11007830 >>11008051 >>11008074 >>11008284

Not sure if this is the right board for this but can someone redpill me on nicotine in smokeless tobacco?
If we disregard the effect on gums and teeth, is it that bad?
I'm mainly interested in the implications on testosterone, and whether it should be used as a nootropic/CNS stimulant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Sep 2019 20:57:43 No.11006842 Report

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>>11006830
Who cares? Do drugs if you want. If you think they’re pleasurable, and that pleasure outweighs whatever health risks they have, then they’re good by definition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Sep 2019 21:01:44 No.11006856 Report

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>>11006842
>pleasure outweighs whatever health risks they have
That's what I want to find out, the studies regarding testosterone and nicotine are inconclusive as a whole. Nicotine has good mental effects but what really is the price?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Sep 2019 21:31:55 No.11006929 Report

Quoted By: >>11006952

>>11006830
>if we neglect the primary health effects, is it bad
What a retarded question

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 26 Sep 2019 21:48:25 No.11006952 Report

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>>11006929
If you use snus, you may irritate your gums, which is a direct and visible effect that you can avoid by reducing the frequency. I was inquiring about the effects that stem from nicotine itself, not the medium of delivery.
Smokeless tobacco specifically because overall, it appears to be the safest and most convenient option next to nasal snuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 00:55:20 No.11007423 Report

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I can smoke a cigarette and feel next to nothing except for a slight pleasurable buzz, but even a small amount of dip will have my hands sweating and my heart racing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 01:12:54 No.11007477 Report

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>>11006830
My teeth are great according to dentist and I've been dipping for 15 years. I've not known anyone irl that had problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 01:25:04 No.11007518 Report

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>>11006830
Any thing that comes packaged like that probably has some fucked up chemicals on board other than just the nicotine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 03:43:25 No.11007830 Report

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>>11006830
what are the implications on testosterone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 06:18:43 No.11008051 Report

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>>11006830
You can disregard anyone who compares smokeless tobacco to smoking right off the bat. It's far, FAR less harmful than smoking. Statistically speaking, the worst you'll ever get is leukoplakia. Nicotine itself, while addictive as fuck, is benign as far as stimulants go. I can see where the opposition comes from. It's gross, it attracts the kiddies, and the image of someone with their jaw surgically removed is a tough one to get out of your head. They're still doing a disservice to people who are going to use tobacco anyway by lumping it in with smoking.

An actual recent study for your perusal. 4channel doesnt like the link but you should be able to get to the original from the archive.
http://archive.is/x2Zlx

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 06:26:02 No.11008069 Report

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>>11007830
Literally who gives a fuck? If your manhood is so fragile that you need to worry about what something temporarily does to your T levels then you should probably just not do it. Also seek help and good luck coming out to your friends and family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 06:32:59 No.11008074 Report

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>>11006830
I wanted to say something like this>>11008069
But could not word so eloquently. Tobacco is blamed for everything under the sun and I doubt half is true. I "need" testosterone injections once a week but skip them for months on end because Im not a fucking puss. When I walk down the street, manlets run to the other side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Sep 2019 09:34:28 No.11008284 Report

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>>11006830
Scandinavianfag here. Snus can fuck up your gums if you overdo it. For me, I was never a big user so I don't really see any detrimental effects on my gums when comparing the side of the mouth where I have my snus and the side where I don't.

According to some dentalfag friends I have, apparently the acidity of snus is detrimental for germs in your mouth, limiting the growth of tooth decay, so I have that going for me.

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