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Basic Instinct

Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 14:01:25 2019 No.10996318 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>10996337 >>10996364 >>10996389 >>10997024 >>10997044

Who or what do you think programmed us?
By Us I mean Earth lifeforms

An instinct is the ability of a lifeforml to perform a behavior the first time it is exposed to the proper stimulus.
For example, a dog will drool the first time and every time it is exposed to food.

We all share the instinct to reproduce for whatever reason
Is the DNA a code of some sort?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:08:26 No.10996337 Report

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>>10996318
Yes, DNA basically acts like a chemical nondeterministic Turing machine. Programmed by evolution of course.
When certain chemicals are present at locations on the chromosome, certain genes are more likely to be expressed. Their expression of course is in the form of a protein, and those proteins in turn cause further expression. Thus we get recursion and hence computation.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:19:41 No.10996356 Report

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The evolutionary process programmed us

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:23:23 No.10996364 Report

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>>10996318
This >>10996337, it's a code of a sort but not in the way we think of one normally as something you write into a computer or that which is stored in a language. Both of those codes have evident functional intent behind them, they exist to carry out their functions because those functions provide a utility to us their creators. DNA on the other hand is a "code" or "program" which has arisen as the inevitable result of the natural properties of elements, then compounds, then molecules, then amino-acid chains and complex proteins interacting with one another in a water-rich, energy rich environment.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 14:42:49 No.10996389 Report

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>>10996318
are a spider's body and its web really two separate things?
Genes code for proteins and the web is made from proteins.
It's a pretty perfect example of an extended phenotype.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:47:02 No.10997024 Report

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>>10996318
>We all share the instinct to reproduce
I'd argue that this isn't present in all humans. There are gays that claim they are genetically made that way. There are also people who manage to actively transcend this and become celibate so i doubt this is super duper hard coded in our DNA.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:49:19 No.10997031 Report

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programmed by time and mutation

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 18:52:14 No.10997044 Report

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>>10996318
On elementary particle level, there is just efficient way of material bonding. On organic level, its just efficient form of energy gathering and procreation.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 19:02:41 No.10997078 Report

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>>10996389
I firmly believe animals and their tools are one.
One day we'll create our successors, out of silicon and metal.
They'll be part of us and then they'll be on their own when we disappear.
There's more than one way to evolve.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 19:16:40 No.10997109 Report

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>>10996364
Is it possible to write DNA interpreter/compiler?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 19:20:45 No.10997123 Report

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>>10997109
your body already makes dna compiler

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Anonymous Mon 23 Sep 2019 19:28:18 No.10997158 Report

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>>10997109
>Is it possible to write DNA interpreter/compiler?
Basically that's the dream of every genetic engineer.
Yes it's possible in the sense that there is nothing logically preventing it. Translating from a human representation to DNA would probably require some sort of machine learning to do properly. A human language for DNA would still likely be very difficult to understand, let alone program in however the orientation of the language would supposedly have something to do with the phenotypes generated which themselves do not have any clear ontological barriers.
Of course having a compiler means a reverse compiler is in reach as well. This might be even more exciting than the forward direction.

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