>>10953729>I mean there one is right now. It's a thing you can see.
Science is a constantly changing and advancing model that attempt to describe observable phenomenon.
The big bang is the source of the current laws of physics, wind the clock back any farther and all forces need to unify, which is not currently understood. Find a grand unifying theory that can be tested and verified, and then you can talk about what happened in the plank epoch.
