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Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 18:21:42 2019 No.10946702 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>10946714 >>10946732 >>10946948 >>10947545 >>10948965 >>10948969

Can someone walk me through on how i can install LaTex-Vim on a mac using iTerm2 as a terminal? I can't for the life of me figure it out cause i don't know what i'm doing and the manual installation on their page is not getting me anywhere...

I don't even know if this is the right board to post this, so general LaTeX thread i guess. How do (you) compile your LaTeX and what editor do (you) use /sci/?

Pic is not OC, its what i want it to be like, also real-time compiling of-curse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 18:28:58 No.10946714 Report

Quoted By: >>10946724

>>10946702
i use vimtex, it's by far the best. LaTeX-vim isn't even supported any more iirc. i use it in continuous-compiler mode and look at my pdf in Skim

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 18:33:13 No.10946724 Report

Quoted By: >>10946834

>>10946714
I tried so hard for vimtex to work, but i couldn't make my own keybindings/macros in the vimrc file (for example to make equation environments or run it or open a pdf in skim).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 18:36:56 No.10946732 Report

Quoted By: >>10946763 >>10946838

>>10946702
Just use overleaf...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 18:49:10 No.10946763 Report

Quoted By: >>10946777

>>10946732
nope, i want to do it as efficient as possible even if its a bit harsh at first. Also i'm used to vim now..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 19:01:02 No.10946777 Report

Quoted By: >>10946787

>>10946763
Why would you want it to be efficient..? It's the end product you're after. And how efficient is it to debug this sort of stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 19:04:44 No.10946787 Report

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>>10946777
nice trips, i don't want to have to write the environments or more generally the things i write more often. I want to personalise my needs and save tremendous amounts of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 19:28:42 No.10946834 Report

Quoted By: >>10946899

>>10946724
here are some chunks of my .vimrc:

call plug#begin('~/.vim/plugged')

Plug 'lervag/vimtex'
Plug 'rickhowe/diffchar.vim'

call plug#end()

set nocompatible
filetype off

set rtp+=~/.vim/bundle/Vundle.vim
call vundle#begin()

Plugin 'VundleVim/Vundle.vim'
Plugin 'github-theme'

call vundle#end() " required
filetype plugin indent on " required
let g:vimtex_compiler_latexmk = {'callback' : 0}
let g:vimtex_view_method = 'skim'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 19:29:44 No.10946838 Report

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>>10946732
overleaf is cancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 19:58:44 No.10946899 Report

Quoted By: >>10947562

>>10946834
i added the last two, the other i already had. Don't know if its gonna make a difference but thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 05 Sep 2019 20:16:41 No.10946948 Report

Quoted By: >>10949467

>>10946702
if you want realtime compiling use LYX

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:32:59 No.10947545 Report

Quoted By: >>10947547 >>10948531 >>10949438 >>10952362

>>10946702
Just use emacs with latex-preview-pane mode, if you already have Latex installed it takes five minutes to set up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:34:30 No.10947547 Report

Quoted By: >>10947561 >>10947973 >>10951534

>>10947545
>emacs
please do not turn this into an editor war thread. OP said he uses vim; emacs users can go elsewhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:40:52 No.10947561 Report

Quoted By: >>10947564

>>10947547
>I don't even know if this is the right board to post this, so general LaTeX thread i guess. How do (you) compile your LaTeX and what editor do (you) use /sci/?

Also I'm trying to save him some time, why would use an editor which is unpractical and has been outdated almost from day 1 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:40:57 No.10947562 Report

Quoted By: >>10947566 >>10948536

>>10946899
let me know how it goes. i found the vimtex installation challenging too, and i just haced at it for a few hours without documenting or understanding what actually made it work, so new users documenting what ends up working might be useful for improving the codebase (i know i sounds like the/a developer but i’m not, just a very appreciative user who wants vimtex to survive)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:42:17 No.10947564 Report

Quoted By: >>10947590

>>10947561
lol, okay you are actively trying to turn this into a vim v. emacs thread.

answer:
no, back to >>>/g/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:43:58 No.10947566 Report

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>>10947562
*hacked not “haced”
and
*i sound not “i sounds”

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 00:53:57 No.10947590 Report

Quoted By: >>10947608

>>10947564
Well I was genuinely giving him some advice but since I feel like shitposting, you're not going to tell me that vi or its derivatives are well designed text editors (like most (all) of the Unix programs).

>tfw having to figure out ":wq!" saves and quit a document

Why not use ed while you're at it.

Anyway I'll stop now. Peace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 01:02:18 No.10947608 Report

Quoted By: >>10947695

>>10947590
>emacs anon criticizes vim keystrokes
ridiculous. emacs keystrokes are like stenographer chords where you have to be holding 5 keys at once in a hand-contortionist fashion.

anyhow, we can move this to >>>/g/ so that anons discussing vimtex can get back to discussions relating to productivity

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 01:41:09 No.10947695 Report

Quoted By: >>10947700 >>10948841 >>10948865

>>10947608
I don't know any command that requires you to press more than two keys at once, you always press something like C-x or M-x and then press the others keys you need one after the other.

Anyway I'm not sure I want to enter an editor war since it's 4 am in my timezone and since it is ultimately pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 01:44:01 No.10947700 Report

Quoted By: >>10947717 >>10948541

>>10947695
okay, let's agree to not enter a war on editors. i am fine with that. cheers, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 01:48:59 No.10947717 Report

Quoted By: >>10948541

>>10947700
Have a good one pal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 03:41:58 No.10947973 Report

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>>10947547
as if anyone actually uses emacs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 08:54:36 No.10948531 Report

Quoted By: >>10948812

>>10947545
I've tried emacs at the past and had some problems with the compilation to pdf. I also think vim suits me better (i have a file manager with vim too)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 08:57:59 No.10948536 Report

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>>10947562
Well i've managed to get the pdf or dvi viewer to update every time i save (:w) and compile. I've yet to discover how i can automatically open a pdf/dvi viewer of my document (with a snippet) and how to set up LaTeX macros (i can't figure out how to change the key for jumping from placeholder to placeholder). But its getting there, thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 08:59:31 No.10948541 Report

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>>10947700
>>10947717
4chan is such a civilised place sometimes..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 09:48:36 No.10948589 Report

Quoted By: >>10948769

Just write your document in vim and then render it later. All this fussing about formatting while you're trying to write what you're using LaTeX to get away from. Realtime compiling is something you are better off without.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 11:48:24 No.10948769 Report

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>>10948589
you think so? This is what i have in mind, and it looks pretty useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWZiRKjeOdo
Of course everything is more difficult because i've got an iMac...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 12:08:51 No.10948812 Report

Quoted By:

>>10948531
>had some problems with the compilation to pdf

That's weird it worked OotB for me

Maybe you check out this video if you haven't already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwnYHoNtfJ0&list=PL-p5XmQHB_JSQvW8_mhBdcwEyxdVX0c1T&index=1

He explains his Latex setup and gives the config files on his website.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 12:19:04 No.10948841 Report

Quoted By: >>10948940

>>10947695
that's a pretty good looking man

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 12:26:37 No.10948865 Report

Quoted By: >>10948940

>>10947695
nöice

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:07:06 No.10948940 Report

Quoted By: >>10948946

>>10948841
>>10948865
Here's more

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:09:45 No.10948946 Report

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>>10948940
bless you anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:23:35 No.10948965 Report

Quoted By: >>10949006 >>10949102 >>10951507

>>10946702
I don't use any latex plugin in vim. Tried a couple, but felt unecessary and one of them made vim sluggish with certain features activated. So instead I just do the following in my .vimrc.

autocmd BufEnter *.tex nnoremap <Space>c :lcd<Space>%:p:h<CR>:w<CR>:!pdflatex<Space>%<CR><CR>
autocmd BufEnter *.tex nnoremap <Space>v :lcd<Space>%:p:h<CR>:!zathura<Space>%:r.pdf&<CR><CR>
autocmd BufRead,BufWrite,BufNewFile *.tex set filetype=tex

First line is compiling and second is pulling up the pdf of the .tex file in current vim buffer. The name of my pdf reader is zathura. So that's the word you potentially need to change (apart from the actual bindings if you don't like them. The third line is ensuring that vim always detects .tex files.

For snippets I mainly use ultisnips (a vim plugin):
https://castel.dev/post/lecture-notes-1/
https://castel.dev/post/lecture-notes-2/
https://github.com/gillescastel/latex-snippets

For a less bloated snippet solution it's possible to just make a bunch of vim insert mode keybindings. For an example see this guys .vimrc
https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/voidrice/blob/archi3/.config/nvim/init.vim
I did that previously, and it works fine, but I think ultisnips makes it much easier to program the snippets and addresses a few annoying things inherent to vim. I would still recommend take a look at what Luke Smith call "guides" (<++>) in his .vimrc, which mimics some behavior in the latex suite plugin for vim. I have found these bindings useful for all kinds of things.

For .tex templates I have two different solutions. The first is simply making a keybinding that pastes in the contents of a template file

nnoremap \math :-1read $HOME/.vim/template.math.tex<CR>/<++><Enter>"_c3l

This will place the cursor at first occurrence of "<++>" in the template text. I can place multiple guides in the file. For example

\title{<++>}
\date{<++>}
\section{<++>}

1/2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:24:38 No.10948969 Report

Quoted By:

>>10946702
>>>/g/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:24:41 No.10948970 Report

Quoted By: >>10948992 >>10949006

My second template solution (the one that I use) is that I have written a python script that acts a very simple compiler for a new extention that compiles to .tex. The relevant feature is that it adds in the contents of a template file. This way I don't even need to see the preample in the file I am editing (Inb4 "just use folds", yes I use them too). It also does some other stuff which I won't go into.

I use vifm plugin as filemanager inside of vim. Vifm is also a regular filemanager for use on the command line.
https://github.com/vifm/vifm.vim

Lastly, I use neovim instead of vim. All of this works just as fine on both.

2/2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:33:05 No.10948992 Report

Quoted By: >>10949102

>>10948970
There was a time where I used the C preprocessor to #include the preamble. I still use make to build the documents. There is something wrong with my brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:37:28 No.10949006 Report

Quoted By: >>10949018 >>10949102

>>10948965
>>10948970
Thanks for the detailed answer anon. I'm familiar with Luke's vimrc but i couldn't find anywhere how to change the key for jumping from guide to guide. I'm gonna follow your instructions and let you know, thanks!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 13:45:16 No.10949018 Report

Quoted By: >>10949102

>>10949006
(what he uses as "space-space")

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 14:27:45 No.10949102 Report

Quoted By: >>10949151

>>10948992
Didn't understand any of that :p Had too google C preprocessor and I don't know much about make. How do you use make? Would you recommend it?

>>10949006
>>10949018
Glad to help! The "jump to next guide" binding is currently at line 110 in his .vimrc (link in this post >>10948965). Here it is too

" Navigating with guides
inoremap <leader><leader> <Esc>/<++><Enter>"_c4l
vnoremap <leader><leader> <Esc>/<++><Enter>"_c4l
map <leader><leader> <Esc>/<++><Enter>"_c4l

He uses space as leader, so just exchange <leader><leader> with <space><space> if you have a different leader. I don't have it bound like this since I don't like having space bound in insert mode (cursor lags each time I type space), so I bind it to <C-l> instead. And I only bind it in insert mode since I have <C-l> bound to something else in normal and visual mode. Let me know if you have more questions.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 14:47:49 No.10949151 Report

Quoted By: >>10951507

>>10949102
i can't believe this actually worked, can't thank you enough man.. I couldn't initially find Luke's vimrc (error in the link on youtube). I'm ready for making my macros now! Here, have this cat as a form of gratitude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 17:09:07 No.10949438 Report

Quoted By: >>10949449 >>10951149

>>10947545
It already costs some ressources to learn either editor. Once you got the hang of one of them, trying out the other one devolves into a serious case of "But why would anyone want to use this?" It is called the editor war for a reason. Be sensitive to >our >culture, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 17:12:35 No.10949449 Report

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>>10949438
Forgot to post my setup. I started with LaTeX before I switched to Linux, and am still using TeXstudio with the native viewer or Okular (I don't use KDE but stuck to that viewer for some reason).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Sep 2019 17:26:10 No.10949467 Report

Quoted By:

>>10946948
Or TexStudio https://www.texstudio.org/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 01:38:15 No.10951149 Report

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>>10949438
I'm trying to be, but I think in the end it all comes down to if you like the "Unix philosophy" or not. If not, you use Emacs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 05:07:17 No.10951507 Report

Quoted By:

>>10949151
Very nice! Glad to help!

I am dropping links to the most relevant of Luke's LaTeX+vim youtube videos for others who don't know about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mphdtdv2_xs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBgtN-s2Zw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwnYHoNtfJ0

His website too
https://lukesmith.xyz/latex.html

He demonstrates the guide thing (<++> or <>) in the first video. I guess I didn't really explain it earlier, but you knew what I was talking about. I also now see that in the latest version of his .vimrc, Luke has changed his leader to "," thus using ",," as his binding for jumping to the next guide instead of " " (<space><space>) which he used in these videos.

Oh, and I forgot to say anything about which LaTeX compiler I use. I use TeX Live. This >>10948965
post presume the "pdflatex" command available from the terminal in which vim is ran. But I guess you know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 05:08:49 No.10951510 Report

Quoted By: >>10951513 >>10951516 >>10951820 >>10951825

Not sure whos OP, but I am sorry that I can't help with installing the LaTeX-Vim plugin in vim in iTerm2. I neither use the plugin nor the terminal. I have had no problems installing plugins with vimplug as a plugin manager. Here's my .vimrc plugin config

" Auto install vimplug (checks if vimplug is installed, if not then it will install it)
" https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug
if empty(glob('~/.vim/autoload/plug.vim'))
silent !curl -fLo ~/.vim/autoload/plug.vim --create-dirs
\ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/junegunn/vim-plug/master/plug.vim
autocmd VimEnter * PlugInstall --sync | source $MYVIMRC
endif

" Plugins installed
call plug#begin()

Plug 'https://github.com/vifm/vifm.vim'

"LaTeX stuff
"Plug 'lervag/vimtex', { 'on': [] }
"Plug 'KeitaNakamura/tex-conceal.vim', {'for': 'tex', 'on': []}
Plug 'sirver/ultisnips'

call plug#end()

" How to install new plugins:
" 1) Add the plugin to the list, save and reload .vimrc.
" 2) Run command ':PlugInstall'

Not sure if it helps.

" Auto install vimplug (checks if vimplug is installed, if not then it will install it)
" https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug
if empty(glob('~/.vim/autoload/plug.vim'))
silent !curl -fLo ~/.vim/autoload/plug.vim --create-dirs
\ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/junegunn/vim-plug/master/plug.vim
autocmd VimEnter * PlugInstall --sync | source $MYVIMRC
endif

" Plugins installed
call plug#begin()

Plug 'vim-airline/vim-airline'
Plug 'vim-airline/vim-airline-themes'
Plug 'https://github.com/vifm/vifm.vim'

"LaTeX stuff
"Plug 'lervag/vimtex', { 'on': [] }
"Plug 'KeitaNakamura/tex-conceal.vim', {'for': 'tex', 'on': []}
Plug 'sirver/ultisnips'

call plug#end()

" How to install new plugins:
" 1) Add the plugin to the list, save and reload .vimrc.
" 2) Run command ':PlugInstall'

Not sure if it helps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 05:12:59 No.10951513 Report

Quoted By: >>10951516

>>10951510
Accidentally pasted the part of the .vimrc twice... Here's it only once

" Auto install vimplug (checks if vimplug is installed, if not then it will install it)
" https://github.com/junegunn/vim-plug
if empty(glob('~/.vim/autoload/plug.vim'))
silent !curl -fLo ~/.vim/autoload/plug.vim --create-dirs
\ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/junegunn/vim-plug/master/plug.vim
autocmd VimEnter * PlugInstall --sync | source $MYVIMRC
endif

" Plugins installed
call plug#begin()

Plug 'vim-airline/vim-airline'
Plug 'vim-airline/vim-airline-themes'
Plug 'https://github.com/vifm/vifm.vim'

"LaTeX stuff
"Plug 'lervag/vimtex', { 'on': [] }
"Plug 'KeitaNakamura/tex-conceal.vim', {'for': 'tex', 'on': []}
Plug 'sirver/ultisnips'

call plug#end()

" How to install new plugins:
" 1) Add the plugin to the list, save and reload .vimrc.
" 2) Run command ':PlugInstall'

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 05:14:55 No.10951516 Report

Quoted By:

>>10951510
>>10951513
And it fucks up the indentation on the first block. The same block is at the top of Luke Smith's .vimrc here:
https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/voidrice/blob/archi3/.config/nvim/init.vim

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 05:30:17 No.10951534 Report

Quoted By:

>>10947547
>please do not turn this into an editor war thread. OP said he uses vim; emacs users can go elsewhere
But OP also asked
>How do (you) compile your LaTeX and what editor do (you) use /sci/?
So I think it's alright to show latex config for emacs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 09:12:50 No.10951820 Report

Quoted By: >>10952281

>>10951510
OP here, not sure of what you trying to say but thanks for the vimrc, i'll check it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 09:14:18 No.10951825 Report

Quoted By: >>10952281

>>10951510
Also, my problem rn is on how to open a pdf/dvi viewer from iTerm2, and have real time compiling. If you know anything about it your help is very much appreciated!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 13:21:52 No.10952281 Report

Quoted By: >>10952283 >>10953492

>>10951820
>>10951825
>pdf/dvi viewer from iTerm2
Just type the name of the viewer followed by the file you want to open?
$ viewername document.tex
Don't really know. Not familiar with iOS terminals, but they are bash right?
>real time compiling
Here's a plugin for that
https://github.com/xuhdev/vim-latex-live-preview

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 13:22:55 No.10952283 Report

Quoted By:

>>10952281
>document.tex
document.pdf
>iOS
macOS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 13:52:43 No.10952362 Report

Quoted By:

>>10947545
I'm not smart enough for emacs desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 19:42:44 No.10953492 Report

Quoted By:

>>10952281
>Just type the name of the viewer followed by the file you want to open?
>$
says -bash: skim: command not found
if i want to open it with Skim for example

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Sep 2019 20:05:48 No.10953567 Report

Quoted By:

Also, i'm trying to set up some macros, for example if i wanna change the language (i'm not writing in english). I wrote in my vimrc this line:

\begin{otherlanguage}{english}<++><Space>\end{otherlanguage}<++><Esc>T{i

And when i press the hotkey the cursor is placed at the "o" of "\end{othe.. ". How do i get to place the cursor where i want when i activate the macro? Thanks

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