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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 12:01:22 2019 No.10932334 View Reply Original Report

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>be physicist
>have model of existence
>existence contradicts your model
>"hmm, that can't be!"
>tack on scientific equivalent of endless turtles underneath the elephants that hold the world up
>"we did it, STEM-bros! I fr*ckin' love science!!"
should we even consider 20th century scientists human?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 13:18:55 No.10932440 Report

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>>10932334
>be physicist
>have model of reality
>its ultra concise perfectly consistent in 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all cases after literal trillions of trillions of observations...
>one freak case in which it might not apply but also we might be missing something
>lets be cautious and dont assume the vast majority of observations are wrong

fixxed that for ya little boy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 13:40:37 No.10932473 Report

Quoted By: >>10932504

>>10932334
>>10932440
but maths are the same thing too...
both are abstract concepts and liberal arts tier.
the ego is killing mathematicians and they don't notice that...
I rather do something that truly has a future like medicine, CS or chemistry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 13:54:33 No.10932504 Report

Quoted By: >>10932554 >>10933390

>>10932473
shit son, if math and physics are liberal arts tier, what the fuck is a good degree?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:07:56 No.10932528 Report

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>Be retard on 4chan.
>Cannot understand a scientific concept.
>Devote your miserable life to preach on 4chan about how said concept is fault in some way or another.
Just off yourself, you and the induction retard and everyone other nutcase. I fucking hate the lot of you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:09:26 No.10932531 Report

Quoted By: >>10932536

>>10932334
But this is exactly how neutrinos were discovered.

Why can't small brains into science?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:12:52 No.10932536 Report

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>>10932531
Let's be honest. If I throw my poop 10,000 times at the wall, at least one poop gets to stick one time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:12:58 No.10932537 Report

Quoted By: >>10932685

>>10932334
>be physicist
>have model of existence that has previously been consistant with reality
>existence contradicts your model
>"hmm, that can't be!"
>Comes up with explanation and incorporates it with his old theory or changes his own theory accordingly
ftfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:16:00 No.10932540 Report

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>>10932536
I'm not sure what your point is. That there's 10,000 examples of scientists doing this for every 1 times it actually results in a discovery?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:25:40 No.10932554 Report

Quoted By: >>10932565 >>10933274 >>10933396 >>10933582

>>10932504
I just mention it, a degree in medicine is a good degree, programming and fixing computers make for a excellent degree, chemistry can give you a nice job and pays well if you search, electricians have a good degree and actually do something important unlike mathematicians who are just in a table like tards counting 1 2 3.
mechanical engineering too is a good degree to get in your hands.
being a pilot or a sailor, etc...
mathematicians give themselves way too much credit and think they are the hype here until a pipe breaks and its time to call the damn plumber.
physicist at least bother to discover shit and do science from time to time, is still liberals art tier.
maths are at the end of the day a really bad meme and make a joke out of those who practice it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:32:21 No.10932565 Report

Quoted By: >>10932598 >>10933074

>>10932554
so basically its good if it pays well or its practical?

if it were for you thered be no literature no history and no basic research into any field?

math is literally the basis of all of those applied fields you mentioned. Medicine, engineering, chemistry and computers all use (extremely advanced) math

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:46:39 No.10932598 Report

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>>10932565
>if it were for you thered be no literature no history and no basic research into any field?
don't get crazy, those are vital for the progress of humanity and its growth, its fundamental unlike maths.
they overcomplicate a problem with a simple solutions, they are mental gymnastic at its peak, not even shitty women can pull off such delutions.
>math is literally the basis of all of those applied fields you mentioned.
nope, its just maths.
it remains there, is a useful tool but its not everything.
it can lead to stagnation and make you unable to go forwards in what you want.
beyond basic maths, they are not truly needed.
>Medicine, engineering, chemistry and computers all use (extremely advanced) math
in a small and really pathetic way, just basics.
but alas, mathematicians love to pat themselves in the back and say they invented the world itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:49:35 No.10932610 Report

Quoted By: >>10932620

>>10932598
I forgot to add...
that pride and stupidity that mathematicians have needs to get put down a peg don't you think? like I said before, the ego is killing mathematicians and they aren't noticing it.
stop being a yes-honey to maths, telling the world that you wear the pants won't do...because we all know that your wife will tell you which pair to wear.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 14:52:26 No.10932620 Report

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>>10932610
no, its incredibly advanced math, how do you think computer increase performance, by using ultra rare and bizarrae, quasi magical algorithms, same with space trajectory calculation.
how to improve fuel efficiencty of a car 1%? model it using all fields of math.

at first it was useless, noy yuo admit it has some uses but say they are few.

the goalpost is so far away from its original spot you cannot see it anymore even with at elescope.

you not only need learn math, you also need to learn logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:02:46 No.10932648 Report

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>>10932620
you seem to be confused, maths and logic aren't the same.
maths make a really small part and insignificant in those fields.
you can't seem to see beyond maths, you don't bother and won't bother since thats all you will do.
let me repeat, maths do a insignificant part in what you mentioned, is basics that a child can do.
its not hard at all and you can do them yourself.
also space trajectory calculation? isn't that actually physics? well its no surprise, mathematicians steal all the time but thats not what we are talking here so lets pretend that mathematicians don't try to grab anything, call it their on and buff themselves up trying to make up for the things they lack.
logic is important, but maths are a mere basic tool that isn't it that important beyond knowing to count.
mathematicians are almost like the niggers of science, almost, but still nigger-like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:20:10 No.10932684 Report

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>>10932620
>you not only need learn math, you also need to learn logic
>math ALSO logic
>explicitly refers to math and logic as two different things
>>10932648
this retard starts of with:
>you seem to be confused, maths and logic aren't the same.

I insist, you need to learn both

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:20:24 No.10932685 Report

Quoted By: >>10935010 >>10935018

>>10932537
Except that there is no evidence for dark matter, every test for it has failed completely. It's for tin foilers

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:25:03 No.10932690 Report

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>>10932334
The universe is static in time, and possessing of a uniform distribution of matter on the largest scales, leading to a finite, static universe of spherical spatial curvature. Any observations of the contrary can be countered by using a cosmological constant.

--Albert Einstein

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:26:58 No.10932694 Report

Quoted By: >>10932714 >>10933072

>>10932598
>t. retarded comp sci major or engineer
Keep coping with your meme degree while the alpha mathematician sets the basis for the yet to be found theories in all of science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:29:07 No.10932699 Report

Quoted By: >>10932714 >>10933072

>>10932648
So now kids, see what happens when you study science or engineering? Don't be like this retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:33:40 No.10932710 Report

Quoted By: >>10932721

>>10932648
>let me repeat, maths do a insignificant part in what you mentioned, is basics that a child can do.
the math used in computer encryption for example, is so complicated that sometimes a person who studies it for 30 years straight can barely grasp a part of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:36:19 No.10932714 Report

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>>10932694
>Keep coping with your meme degree while the alpha mathematician sets the basis for the yet to be found theories in all of science.
and suddenly the bathroom clogs, are you going to make a equation to unclog it or call a plumber to fix it?.
you only count, nothing else unlike most out there.
so call down, your ego is showing.
>>10932699
way to try to turn it around, this is the equivalent of who hurt you in the scientific field.
kids, never become stagnant like this retard who wants to apply the crabs in a bucket on your ass.
maths ain't all there is in this world, there are better fields you can take.
when its time to prove something, mathfags will be the first to run away like a jewish coward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:37:23 No.10932717 Report

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>>10932440
>0.0000000000000001% of cases make up 80% of the mass of the universe
Someone get this man a tenure fasttrack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:42:50 No.10932721 Report

Quoted By: >>10932728 >>10933588

>>10932710
>bu-but we wuz maths & shit
because maybe people are overcomplicating themselves like maths tend to do with problems.
sometimes math make a problem even worse and when you see it feom another angle, suddenly you realize the answer was more simple than you initially though.
maths is nothing more than a basic tool to help you, its not the answer to everything.
when the cellphone get its screen broken, you don't start to calculate and do algebra, you go to the damn technician to fix the damn thing.
maths should be a tool to help you, but many here insist is everything and that lead to unnecessary problems and complications, leading a project or job to total stagnation.
we should do more than just fucking maths but mathematicians insist on the opposite because they are junkies that get high everytime they solve a problem they themselves created.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:43:27 No.10932723 Report

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>>10932334
Well if elephants standing on turtles supporting a world on top fits all observations of existence made then that is the best model you have until proven otherwise.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:46:10 No.10932728 Report

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>>10932721
>mathematicians insist on the opposite because they are junkies that get high everytime they solve a problem they themselves created.
shots fired

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 15:51:35 No.10932735 Report

Quoted By: >>10932807 >>10933423 >>10934124

>>10932440
In mathematics a statement is false if it is wrong 0.000000000000...0001% of the time. Way to BTFO GR cucklord

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 16:20:33 No.10932807 Report

Quoted By: >>10932862

>>10932735
fuck math

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 16:40:53 No.10932862 Report

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>>10932807
speaking about fucking math...
where are they? one second ago they were chimping about their numbers and now there is no answer.
they took lots of dicks before but couldn't take criticism now?.
well thats to be expected, when someone is catching up to their bullshit they are really quick to retreat like a quack doctor when you catch the bastard in the act.
makes you wonder if people someday will notice how full of shit these mathfags are.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 17:54:14 No.10933072 Report

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>>10932694
>>10932699
>they actually ran away

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 17:56:16 No.10933074 Report

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>>10932565
>medicine relies on math
umm no sweaty sorry that’s wrong its pure induction

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:00:18 No.10933091 Report

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>>10933074
maybe they think surgery requires algebraic expressions.
these people by reflex go and take credit from everything, they have been patting themselves in the back for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:04:30 No.10933109 Report

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>>10932620
you can’t teach logical reasoning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:21:22 No.10933181 Report

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>>10932334
Nothing new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_of_Neptune

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:48:50 No.10933270 Report

Quoted By: >>10933285 >>10933423

>>10932440
What an asbolutely fucking terrible way to do this.
A SINGLE counterexample is proof against the statement "for all X P(x)"
That holds for empiricism too. Yes, you HAVE TO throw out the entire model if there is a counterexample, because the model is objectively wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:51:40 No.10933274 Report

Quoted By: >>10933352

>>10932554
>>10932598
Just by the way you write it's obvious you are a brainlet who is angry you can't understand math

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:53:08 No.10933276 Report

Quoted By: >>10933352

>>10932648
>you seem to be confused, maths and logic aren't the same.
Logic is a subclass of mathematics, that is it is a heyting algebra. Do you even know what computation, mathematics, logic, and type theory is? Topology? You don't know anything. Please stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:54:15 No.10933285 Report

Quoted By: >>10933292

>>10933270
You have no idea how science works. If you have a succesful model and then you find a single counter-example, you do not throw the model away, you try to modify it to accomodate the new information. It is the correct approach. Deal with it, brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:58:02 No.10933292 Report

Quoted By: >>10933297 >>10933308 >>10933423

>>10933285
I know how science works (that is, I understand the current model of fallibility as laid down by Popper, and science as being the expression of Empiricist epistemology).
The problem is, contraditctions and the rationalist underpinning is more fundamental than the empiricist scaffolding. If you find a counterexample, it means the structure is wrong, it is a contradiction. If "science" doesn't work in the way I am describing, then it is worthless. Deal with it, you projecting brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 18:59:42 No.10933297 Report

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>>10933292
If a contradiction can be easily resolved, it is not a real contradiction. This is what actual logic teaches us. Again, you modify the model before throwing it away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:03:26 No.10933305 Report

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>>10932334
>What the fuck is an axiom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:04:29 No.10933308 Report

Quoted By: >>10933464

>>10933292
Well, kinda yes, slightly different model is a different model, but it's semantics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:21:47 No.10933352 Report

Quoted By: >>10933358 >>10933376

>>10933274
keep coping with the fact that maths are useless compared to other jobs and careers.
besides business, banks and being a math professor, what can a mathematician accomplish? not much.
>>10933276
is the other way around retard, maths is a subclass of logic.
logic came way before we discovered maths, its because we had attained logic that we realized we could do maths and organize shit in the first place.
logic gave birth to maths, not the other way around.
you are the one who don't know shit and is grabbing everything else to make up for the things you lack.
accept the fact that beyond basics, math isn't needed for most jobs in the world.
they only have a very insignificant part in our daily lives.
topology doesn't need anything beyond highschool level maths.
stop patting yourself on the back, get out that yggdrasil out of your ruined ass, get off the high horse, stop being so hard headed and stop being stubborn.
I know it hurts that you are not better than anyone else and that the defect of maths, pride and ego form their logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:24:10 No.10933358 Report

Quoted By: >>10933398 >>10933413

>>10933352
>is the other way around retard, maths is a subclass of logic.
You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Logic is a branch of the Heyting lattice that corrosponse to a propositional calculus.
I am not going to talk to you anymore, you have a 95IQ and clearly don't know what you're talking about and clearly just dislike math because you can't do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:25:49 No.10933360 Report

Quoted By: >>10933384

>>10932334
Please synthesize a new theory of gravity that explains away “dark matter”. Until then, stop talking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:31:39 No.10933376 Report

Quoted By: >>10933413

>>10933352
Read this
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-algebraic-propositional/
and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev7AYsLljxk
Computation is a superclass over mathematics which is a superclass over logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:34:11 No.10933384 Report

Quoted By: >>10933417

>>10933360

Electric universe theory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:38:38 No.10933390 Report

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>>10932504
Engineering is the only degree I respect.
I would say chemistry, since chemistry is badass, but we've all met that one chem graduate whose expertise was limited to "don't drink the funny smelling liquids"

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:42:51 No.10933396 Report

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>>10932554

Bugperson detected. "I may not have any deep or interesting thoughts about anything ever, but at least I can buy toys and help make toys for other people!". Imagine having such a low IQ and intolerance of abstraction that this is actually how you measure success.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:44:20 No.10933398 Report

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>>10933358

Good move. Daily reminder not to interact with double digit IQ posters.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:56:29 No.10933413 Report

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>>10933358
>>10933376
>>10933396
>>10933398
Found the thread
>>10900677
Jesus fuck guys

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 19:58:05 No.10933417 Report

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>>10933384

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 20:01:22 No.10933423 Report

Quoted By: >>10933484

>>10932735
>>10933270
>>10933292
The mathematical and the scientific methods are very different, brainlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 20:05:07 No.10933432 Report

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>meanwhile in CS land
>"this '1+1=3' shit is fishy, thereby I must iterate it again"
>"1+1=1.999928397"
>"good enough"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 20:17:15 No.10933464 Report

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>>10933308
>semantics
holy shit define slightly different you fucking pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 20:24:31 No.10933484 Report

Quoted By: >>10933551

>>10933423
>scientific methods
lmaoing at your existence
Empiricism or gtfo, go shill your pseudo religious idolatry on the relevant board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:01:13 No.10933551 Report

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>>10933484
The scientific method is empirical though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:13:40 No.10933582 Report

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>>10932554
> programming and fixing computers
programming is taught to both math and physics graduates if you're in a good program.
fixing computers isn't... a degree, friend - that's vocational training.

actually you know what, fuck it you're beyond hope. you're so hopelessly wrong that the you're either from a third world country or just very poorly educated. i'd feel bad if i made fun you, to be honest.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:14:57 No.10933588 Report

Quoted By: >>10933598 >>10933599

>>10932721
You seem to have an incredibly distorted and inaccurate view of what math is.
>maths should be a tool to help you
Why? Because you say so? Why are you so bothered that people are interested in exploring systems and the relationships between abstract objects and structures? Why can’t mathematics be explored for its own sake? Do you get this upset anytime someone does anything that “doesn’t benefit mankind”? Do you get upset when someone plays an instrument or draws a picture?

You talk about to technicians and technology but you fail to acknowledge that those innovations and inventions that you designste as useful to humanity were created and designed precisely because of advancements made in mathematics. The models used to create these things relied on mathematical principles. You are correct that many of the problems in mathematics have few or no immediate practical applications, but there have been cases in the past where a branch that was developed out of curiosity ended up being being immensely valuable later on, and ended up having practical applications.

Almost all fields of STEM have their foundations in mathematics. Why are you so combative and hostile? Did you get molested by a quadratic equation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:18:57 No.10933598 Report

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>>10933588
based

I completely agree, I give the same autistic and angry speeches

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:19:15 No.10933599 Report

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>>10933588
yeah but abstract mathematics is fucking useless shit. I'm convinced they only promote it because it was created by Emmy Noether, and they want to give some credit to a (jewish) female. Mathematics is only useful when you're dealing with calculations, problem solving, which most of this heavily abstract mathematics has nothing to do with. I swear you go into some of these math classes and it's literally like a foreign language

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:19:28 No.10933601 Report

Quoted By: >>10933613

>>10932334
What are you referring to exactly?

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:25:13 No.10933613 Report

Quoted By: >>10933640 >>10934047

>>10933601
he's talking about how Einstein's laws failed so catastrophically to describe the universe we see through the telescope that they created all these bizarre theories about 99% of the universe being undiscovered "dark matter" and "dark energy", which literally only exist to make the equations work.

It's basically the equivalent of appealing to the sky gods

THREAD JACKER

THREAD JACKER Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:27:37 No.10933617 Report

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>>10932334
>I can't make threads on /sci/ so I will settle for replying to shitposts to hijack the thread
New thread topic: What mechanical description of motion should I optimize in order to optimize a strike? Possible answers include:
>kinetic energy
>momentum
>force
>impulse
>pressure
>optimize closeness to natural frequency
>something else?

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:32:23 No.10933631 Report

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>>10932440
>>its ultra concise perfectly consistent in 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all cases after literal trillions of trillions of observations...
you have no idea what you are talking about, brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:35:54 No.10933640 Report

Quoted By: >>10933649 >>10934025

>>10933613
But General Relativity has been debunked. Only pseuds think it hasn't been. Only reason we still use it is because we don't have anything better. Same reason some of you still have gfs :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:38:25 No.10933649 Report

Quoted By: >>10933665

>>10933640
I think if that were true people would be putting effort into trying to find new laws of gravitation, rather than all this bullshit about dark matter. I guess it's good for sucking up shitloads of grant money from the government

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:44:42 No.10933665 Report

Quoted By: >>10933697

>>10933649
>people would be putting effort into trying to find new laws of gravitation
We have a limited amount of observational data. We need what I call the RFBT, or Really Fucking Big Telescope. We need to construct a telescope on the moon costing 10 trillion dollars that has a diameter of 200km. THEN we will see progress in the field of cosmology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:47:29 No.10933673 Report

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>>10932334
I know you're talking about dark matter but this is exactly what the Copenhagen "Interpretation" is. Lets's just add more rules because I don't like the many worlds "interpretation" (aka implication)

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? ? 0 Sat 31 Aug 2019 21:50:37 No.10933678 Report

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1/3 = 0.333...
3×1/3 = 3×0.333...
1 = 0.999...

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 22:00:02 No.10933697 Report

Quoted By: >>10934035

>>10933665
why do scientists get money from the government if the research is so valuable? shouldn't science be paying for itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:38:23 No.10934025 Report

Quoted By: >>10934035 >>10934062

>>10933640
>But General Relativity has been debunked.
No it hasn't
>Only pseuds think it hasn't been.
No, pseuds are the ones who believe in plasma/electric universe or other falsified shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:41:57 No.10934035 Report

Quoted By: >>10934052

>>10933697
Because the research is released publicly so that corporations and companies can make financial gain from it equally. If the research was sold privately it would pay for itself but would benefit the world less comparatively since it wouldn't be distributed equally. Science is inherently socialist.
>>10934025
Yes it has been debunked. It doesn't work in 100% of instances therefore it is not a valid theory. It's currently the most valid theory so it's the one everybody uses and should use until someone thinks of a better theory using whatever observational data is acquired in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:48:09 No.10934047 Report

Quoted By: >>10934130

>>10933613
Ya dum.

Dark energy is predicted and expected by general relativity and QM. Though much more is predicted than we see, which is another issue.

Dark Matter is simply the name of the phenomenon of galaxies spinning faster than they should according to vanilla GR. it doesn’t state what the solution is, but the main theory is there is literally “dark matter” in galaxies making up extra mass that allows for the faster spinning. There are some other potential explanations, but none of them look very healthy right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:49:11 No.10934052 Report

Quoted By: >>10934054

>>10934035
>It doesn't work in 100% of instances therefore it is not a valid theory.
I guess there’s no such thing as a valid theory then retard.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:49:52 No.10934054 Report

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>>10934052
>I guess there’s no such thing as a valid theory then retard.
Theories that work 100% of the time become Laws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:51:45 No.10934062 Report

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>>10934025
>he doesn’t believe in aether
brainlet. cuck. swine.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:52:15 No.10934065 Report

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>>10932334
Kek

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:27:53 No.10934124 Report

Quoted By: >>10934127 >>10934131

>>10932735
No one is saying "this model accurately describes all of reality", though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:29:23 No.10934127 Report

Quoted By: >>10934135

>>10934124
If it doesn't describe all of reality it's a shit theory. TOE when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:31:02 No.10934130 Report

Quoted By: >>10934329

>>10934047
no it's not predicted or expected, it's just how they are explaining away the fact that galaxies appear to be accelerating away from us. That's the point, everything we are seeing up there is not corresponding even a little bit to what we predict or expect.

Remember Einstein himself had a nebulous "fudge factor" in his equations called the cosmological constant. But even that wasn't enough to explain away any of this shit

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:31:13 No.10934131 Report

Quoted By: >>10934139

>>10934124
>No one is saying "this model accurately describes all of reality", though.
I am.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:33:31 No.10934135 Report

Quoted By:

>>10934127
K

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:34:37 No.10934139 Report

Quoted By: >>10934148

>>10934131
Exactly. No one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:40:04 No.10934148 Report

Quoted By:

>>10934139
that really hurts anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:13:15 No.10934329 Report

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>>10934130
>no it's not predicted or expected
You’re a fucking retard. QM states all space has a minimum absolute energy, known as vacuum energy.

GM states that all energy warps space. The math works out that vacuum energy causes space to stretch apart, which is what we see in dark energy.

His “cosmological constant” originated before QM was developed. It was also not made to match observations, Einstein just assumed the universe was static in size. That’s why he later called this his biggest blunder.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 11:34:20 No.10935010 Report

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>>10932685
Except for gravimetric lensing analysis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 11:40:11 No.10935018 Report

Quoted By: >>10935116

>>10932685
If there was no evidence for dark matter no one would be talking about it.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:18:51 No.10935109 Report

Quoted By: >>10935120

>>10932440
>99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
That's a weird way to spell "15%"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:25:14 No.10935116 Report

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>>10935018
I think you vastly miscalculated the fallibility of the human race. There's no God and no evidence for God, and yet billions of people talk about God every single day as if they personally know everything about him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:27:00 No.10935118 Report

Quoted By: >>10935123

>>10932334
I know this is a troll thread but are there any books that more or less argue this but in a scholarly manner? I want to see a good critique of the foundational aspects and assumptions of science

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:28:19 No.10935120 Report

Quoted By:

>>10935109
Based
Give 'em hell anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:31:19 No.10935123 Report

Quoted By: >>10935125

>>10935118
Introduction to Logic
Just learn about cognitive bias and rhetorical fallacy, there's nothing wrong with science. just faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:33:26 No.10935125 Report

Quoted By: >>10935135 >>10935140

>>10935123
You're actually retarded, read a book

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:36:15 No.10935135 Report

Quoted By:

>>10935125
Which book exactly smart guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:38:46 No.10935140 Report

Quoted By:

>>10935125
You're actually a faggot if you think the problem is science and not scientists.

Sage and report

Sage and report Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:46:56 No.10935153 Report

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>science and math board
>hates science and math
The absolute state of this /sci/thole

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