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Another tesla goes up in flames

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 09:51:04 2019 No.10879611 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>10879614 >>10879663 >>10879695 >>10879723 >>10879756 >>10879773 >>10879992 >>10880552 >>10881127

This goes to all the musk shills that kept insisting real cars are more dangerous

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 09:54:07 No.10879614 Report

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>>10879611
Literally the safest cars on the market.

I bet you are anti-nuclear too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 09:56:50 No.10879616 Report

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>>10879614
good to know i'll never spontaneously combust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:19:47 No.10879644 Report

Quoted By: >>10879652 >>10879663

>>10879616
ICE car fires are much more common than electric, and when they happen they are much more dangerous.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:23:48 No.10879652 Report

Quoted By: >>10879658 >>10879665 >>10879670

>>10879644
nah they don't spontaneously combust like fucking batteries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:26:34 No.10879658 Report

Quoted By: >>10879663 >>10880129

>>10879652
Nah what? Nah the don’t catch fire as often?

I’m not aware of a tesla that spontaneous combusted. Generally it requires serious damage to the battery back. Even then the fire general doesn’t affect the cabin.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:28:09 No.10879663 Report

Quoted By: >>10879697

>>10879611
>>10879644
>>10879658
What % of Tesla cars have gone up in flames?
What % of ICE cars have gone up in flames?

That's really the only thing we need to know. Knowing the number of how many have burned up is irrelevant if the % is actually ultra low.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:31:14 No.10879665 Report

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>>10879652
Show statistics retard.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:32:57 No.10879667 Report

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Oh look another Tesla hate thread.

Reminder that their revenue grew 68% in 2017 and 82% in 2018.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:36:02 No.10879670 Report

Quoted By: >>10879680

>>10879652
On what statistics do you base your claim that ICE cars don't spontaneously combust?

2/3 of fires are caused by electrical and mechnaical components and only 4 % are due to a car crash:
https://www.kelnerlaw.com/blog/2017/10/5-common-causes-of-car-fires.shtml

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:44:19 No.10879680 Report

Quoted By: >>10879689 >>10879690 >>10879691 >>10879701

>>10879670
yeah something has to go wrong for a real car to go up in flames, batteries catch fire for no fucking reason even when it's all pitch perfect, unreliable junk

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:56:01 No.10879689 Report

Quoted By: >>10879692

>>10879680
Cute bullshit.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:57:11 No.10879690 Report

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>>10879680
>Batteries catch fire for no reason
Oh look, someone who doesn’t work with batteries has shared an ignorant opinion. What a surprise

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:57:51 No.10879691 Report

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>>10879680
Have you worked in any kind of production/engineering setting?
Even in the most well intentionally engineered situations (never gonna be a thing again) 6sigma (what engineers call 6 standard deviations, meaning your confidence interval for within spec has to cover 6 standard deviations from the mean - those better be tiny ass standard deviations for precision gears) does not eliminate risk. This applies to everything from manual powered bicycles to million dollar cars.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 10:59:11 No.10879692 Report

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>>10879690
>>10879689
i know batteries totally never self combust. give musk all your money

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:03:21 No.10879695 Report

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>>10879611
I have to say that oil shills have gotten pretty pathetic.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:06:10 No.10879697 Report

Quoted By: >>10879752

>>10879663
>That's really the only thing we need to know.
LMFAO no. We need to know enough to control all potential confusion factors like external temperature and humidity. Stop reading statistics like a pathetic /pol/ack looking for a reason to behave like a loser.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:08:01 No.10879699 Report

Quoted By: >>10879702

>>10879692
Nobody is saying teslas can't catch on fire. But all cars can randomly catch on fire, and Tesla cars don't do it more often. I think the real problem here is that you don't seem to understand that normal cars catch on fire pretty frequently.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:08:33 No.10879700 Report

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>>10879695
lmao fuck oil and fuck cars in general. tesla is still shit tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:09:10 No.10879701 Report

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>>10879680
Ok you might as well throw your phone away and literally everything in your household that has a battery retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:10:14 No.10879702 Report

Quoted By: >>10879706

>>10879699
>normal cars catch on fire pretty frequently.
not really they don't, not in normal conditions

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:11:35 No.10879705 Report

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>>10879701
fuck i didn't know cellphones could power cars

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:13:48 No.10879706 Report

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>>10879702
nice "no true scottsman" there.

>Each year, from 2014 to 2016, an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss.1 These highway vehicle fires accounted for 13 percent of fires responded to by fire departments across the nation

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:18:50 No.10879716 Report

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>>10879706
that says nothing about the nature of those fires, besides >muttland, you just know a significant fraction was caused by retards tinkering with their "ride"

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:26:12 No.10879723 Report

Quoted By: >>10879740

>>10879611
video here, happened in moscow:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0_izPjnfYV/

>The Tesla car, driving on autopilot, flew into a tow truck at the edge of the road, after which an explosion occurred and the car caught fire.

>The frames show how in the oncoming lane the car explodes twice, after which the fire almost instantly destroys the car. As a result of the accident, the driver of Tesla, the general director of Arikapital managing company Alexey Tretyakov, was seriously injured. He was taken to the intensive care unit in serious condition, and his children who were in the car at the time of the accident also suffered.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:47:20 No.10879740 Report

Quoted By: >>10879744 >>10879749

>>10879723
Funny how if you were to listen to the shills you'd expect half the cars there to be on fire, but no it's just the Tesla

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 11:55:43 No.10879744 Report

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>>10879740
Yes, the car that got damaged the most. This board is too much sometimes

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:00:15 No.10879749 Report

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>>10879740
Are you legit retarded? You think normal cars don't catch fire after accidents?

Go ahead and show actual statistics with Tesla being more dangerous.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:06:15 No.10879752 Report

Quoted By: >>10879783

>>10879697
No, conditions are a moot point because that literally does not matter. The only thing that matters is what % catches fire. Do you have those stats? If not, then shut your cock holster because you are not adding to your argument or discussion topic in any manner other than logical fallacy.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:09:06 No.10879756 Report

Quoted By: >>10879761

>>10879611
>"The propensity and severity of fires and explosions from ... lithium ion battery systems are anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels," according to the results of an in-depth investigation into the relative fire risks of the two types of vehicles conducted by Battelle for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration last fall.
>About 174,000 vehicle fires were reported in the United States in 2015, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the National Fire Protection Association. Virtually all of those fires involved gasoline powered cars. That works out to about one every three minutes.
>Tesla claims that gasoline powered cars are about 11 times more likely to catch fire than a Tesla. It says the best comparison is fires per 1 billion miles driven. It says the 300,000 Teslas on the road have been driven a total of 7.5 billion miles, and about 40 fires have been reported. That works out to five fires for every billion miles traveled, compared to a rate of 55 fires per billion miles traveled in gasoline cars.

Can't wait for Musk haters mass suicides when Tesla revenue keeps growing 80% a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:12:43 No.10879761 Report

Quoted By: >>10879767

>>10879756
>brand new cars burning to a crisp (but not as much) is paraded as an accomplishment by musk shills

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:14:10 No.10879767 Report

Quoted By: >>10879799

>>10879761
Go ahead and show statistics retard. Show us how much safer new gasoline cars are.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:16:44 No.10879771 Report

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Vast majority of fires are caused by electric systems not batteries. Every single study shows electric cars being safer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:18:15 No.10879773 Report

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>>10879611
>death trap
>nobody died

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:31:41 No.10879783 Report

Quoted By: >>10879790 >>10879797

>>10879752
Yes, it matters. Go back to >>>/pol/ if you can't handle statistics 101.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:36:23 No.10879790 Report

Quoted By: >>10879799

>>10879783
Can you handle this? FUCK YOU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:39:23 No.10879797 Report

Quoted By: >>10879799 >>10879827

>>10879783
Tell us, anon, why does it matter? Wait, I can think of one reason why it would matter. Some anti-Musk/anti-tech radical going out and destroying/sabotaging them on purpose. That would be one major thing to be considered if it were true. Aside from that high fantasy bullshit, nothing else fucking matters you massive tard.

>>>/pol/

What does that even mean? Statistics are in the maths field and we are in /sci/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:43:12 No.10879799 Report

Quoted By: >>10879820

>>10879767
>>10879790
>>10879797
Jesus Christ you're all so cringy and childish. No wonder no one takes Tesla seriously

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 12:54:36 No.10879820 Report

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>>10879799
I don't give a shit about Tesla or ICE. I only care about stats and only one person has posted relevant stats. Which isn't very good since it is just news blog shit regurgitating another news blog article in circular news and citing broken source links nearly half a decade old.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 13:00:22 No.10879827 Report

Quoted By: >>10879843 >>10879848 >>10880045 >>10880161

>>10879797
>Tell us, anon, why does it matter?
Easy:
>take newbie surgeon and 1337 surgeon
>open a clinic
>give newbie surgeon all the easy shit and 1337 surgeon all the hard shit
>newbie surgeon has success rate twice that of 1337 surgeon
>publish study "newbie surgeons perform twice as well as 1337 surgeons" on /pol/
>retard anon believes it and spreads his stupid shit on other boards even more

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 13:13:09 No.10879843 Report

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>>10879827
Fellow data science brother.
This is what happens when brain lets have no idea how to data science. They probably don’t even understand am nearest neighbors

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 13:18:08 No.10879848 Report

Quoted By: >>10879898

>>10879827
Holy fuck, you are dense. That analogy is shit and doesn't even apply correctly. You also need to go back to >>>/pol/ if you have such a fucking hardon for it.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 14:06:27 No.10879898 Report

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>>10879848
>That analogy is shit and doesn't even apply correctly.
It is perfectly appropriate and applies wonderfully. >>>/pol/

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 14:57:35 No.10879992 Report

Quoted By: >>10880006

>>10879611
Not Science or Math
>>>/o/

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 15:07:27 No.10880006 Report

Quoted By: >>10880046

>>10879992
>damage control

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 15:09:57 No.10880009 Report

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Tesla fires aren't even that dangerous lmao.
They take a long time (comparatively speaking) to get really 'going'. Tesla crash fatalities are always due to the crash; the fire comes later.

t. gonna get a used 3 as my next car

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 15:38:57 No.10880045 Report

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>>10879827
So in this analogy what type of driving is easy shit and which type of driving is hard shit.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 15:39:16 No.10880046 Report

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>>10880006
As if this board even likes Tesla that much in the first place.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 16:25:16 No.10880129 Report

Quoted By: >>10880136

>>10879658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdaFk3w6rUY

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 16:27:39 No.10880136 Report

Quoted By: >>10880137

>>10880129
>Spontaneous.
Was it spontaneous, or caused by major damage to the battery at some point?

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 16:29:43 No.10880137 Report

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>>10880136
practically every single Tesla fire is due to a catastrophic intrusion into the battery pack.
The only times it hasn’t been that is for early S60’s, I believe.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 16:41:32 No.10880161 Report

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>>10879827
Then go ahead and show me statistics proving that new gasoline cars are safer.

You don't have them? Then shut the fuck up you retarded ape.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 19:46:46 No.10880552 Report

Quoted By: >>10880573

>>10879611
Agreed. Just like you shouldn't use a phone because there is a chance it could light your nuts on fire when the batteries spontaneously explodes in your pocket!

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 19:53:48 No.10880573 Report

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>>10880552
Remember to never cross a street since there is a chance someone will run you over.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 20:03:38 No.10880599 Report

Quoted By: >>10880904

https://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2018&no=473063

BMW recalled 106,000 cars over a huge number of engine fires in korea

Hint: ICE cars catch fire at a higher rate than EV. You just don't hear news about them.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 20:05:54 No.10880606 Report

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Also the car ran into a dump truck and no occupants died and worst injury was a broken leg on the driver and bruises on 2 children passengers.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 22:12:44 No.10880884 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 22:13:49 No.10880889 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 22:14:51 No.10880893 Report

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 22:18:40 No.10880904 Report

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>>10880599
Exactly. Electric engines are actually super simple and modern batteries are less dangerous than petrol.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 22:40:31 No.10880985 Report

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>>10880884
lol. The absolute STATE of ICEs.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 22:47:31 No.10881002 Report

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>>10880884

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 23:00:39 No.10881033 Report

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hope all cagers disappear tbqh

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 23:23:05 No.10881075 Report

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>>10881033
this
fucking tesla shills can get fucked

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Anonymous Sun 11 Aug 2019 23:56:41 No.10881127 Report

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>>10879611
So that's +1 on their body count?
Pretty sure you're still a bit short of the 1.35 million annual human driven automobile fatalities, but keep on doing your best anon-chan.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Aug 2019 00:06:46 No.10881151 Report

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>>10881127
>Missing the point this much

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