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Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 02:39:12 2019 No.10834693 View Reply Original Report

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>2019
>He does not do regular cardio to improve his brain

HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) boosts BDNF and thus generates new brain cells

Reminder that by not doing cardio your brain literally atrophies by the day

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26472862
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25868740
http://sjimu.medilam.ac.ir/browse.php?a_id=1552&sid=1&slc_lang=en
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-derived_neurotrophic_factor#Neurogenesis

No, strength training doesn't help
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20467874

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:39:50 No.10834698 Report

Quoted By: >>10834772 >>10835018 >>10838598 >>10839061

I can't build muscle

xxXSuiseisekiXxx

xxXSuiseisekiXxx Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:41:24 No.10834705 Report

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>>10834693
You know that thinking also increases blood flow?
Try it some time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:43:02 No.10834708 Report

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>>10834705
Nice cope, brainlet. Enjoy Alzheimer's.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 02:46:19 No.10834715 Report

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>>10834708
>Enjoy Alzheimer's.

xxXSuiseisekiXxx

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xxXSuiseisekiXxx Thu 25 Jul 2019 03:09:01 No.10834764 Report

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>>10834708
Fuck you. I already have manganism.
So the instability of fine muscle control means I'm in perpetual motion.
I don't need any more shit you can't make stick.
Now who's copeing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 03:11:47 No.10834772 Report

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>>10834698
low t

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 03:12:49 No.10834777 Report

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>>10834693
Do HIIT twice a week love it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 03:21:23 No.10834802 Report

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>>10834772
Wrong, it has to do with lack of satellite cell proliferation

xxXSuiseisekiXxx

xxXSuiseisekiXxx Thu 25 Jul 2019 05:05:06 No.10834957 Report

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>>10834802
So beta that even genetically beta to you things stop orbiting.
Wow...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 05:44:59 No.10835018 Report

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>>10834698
Eat more

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 13:53:17 No.10835626 Report

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>>10834957
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 14:00:23 No.10835635 Report

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>>10834693
I do cardio and work out almost everyday, 6'/175lbs/ 10% or less bodyfat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 16:21:03 No.10835863 Report

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>>10834693
yeah i noticed my brain would work better while i was physically active but not by a lot
i think the biggest difference was that i'd slack less

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 16:38:45 No.10835893 Report

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>>10834693
>tfw have cholinergic urticaria
>tfw exercising causes me to break out in hives when I start to sweat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 16:39:42 No.10835895 Report

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>>10835893
I used to have severe itching when trying to exercise or sweat as a teenager for a few years, it was horrible. Somehow it went away though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 16:54:06 No.10835920 Report

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I don't like moving so I'll go for alzheimer's

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 20:11:50 No.10836340 Report

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>>10834693
I do push-ups, crunches, and squats every morning, and have been for almost 2 years. Without fail, as soon as I crank out a few push-ups, my head starts to clear up. Recommend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 20:15:21 No.10836350 Report

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>>10834693
That's why all the greatest scientists and mathematicians were bodybuilding Chads, and not big fat bloobs of goo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 20:18:36 No.10836355 Report

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>>10836340
but I can't build muscle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 20:24:25 No.10836372 Report

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>>10836355
So?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 20:25:05 No.10836377 Report

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>>10836372
So it is useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 20:26:50 No.10836382 Report

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>>10836377
What's useless? You're not exercising to build muscles but to retain cognitive function.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jul 2019 21:25:41 No.10836522 Report

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>>10834693
brains are used for lying
it just makes you better at cheating

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 14:39:18 No.10838536 Report

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>>10834693 Good post. Currently I'm doing resistance training only with the exception of some low intensity cycling. I don't want to add any cardio because that will prevent growing muscle from the resistance training at best or lose some at worst.
Resistance training has beneficial effects on cognition. For example see https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jgs.14542
Maybe for neurogenesis you can do other things while only doing resistance training with some exceptions of cycling? Anybody got some input on that?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 14:40:53 No.10838540 Report

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>>10838536
>I don't want to add any cardio because that will prevent growing muscle from the resistance training at best

I assure you it will not

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 15:19:16 No.10838591 Report

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>>10838540 Check the research. You're wrong.
Cycling before or after gym is different if you get your protein. But intermixing running or strenous aerobic exercise strongly impedes progress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 15:24:07 No.10838595 Report

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>>10838591
Do you know why I can't build muscle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 15:27:21 No.10838598 Report

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>>10834698
>>10834698
bayseddddd

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 15:29:19 No.10838599 Report

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>>10838595 Eating too little or wrong, doing aerobic exercise alongside it, or not putting enough effort in it via not raising the weights every time you repeat an exercise or not going 2 times per week at a minimum most likely.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 16:51:44 No.10838718 Report

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>>10836340
what do you mean by your head cleaning up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 17:04:26 No.10838734 Report

Quoted By: >>10838810 >>10838848 >>10838886

>>10838591
I've began doing 30-40 mins of stationary bike cardio after lifting and my muscle has not been impeded at all even on a caloric deficit and I am firmly within intermediate lifts according to symmetric strength.

I think it's a meme, I have noticeably improved work capacity and feel way better from doing cardio. Maybe if you're running marathons or something.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 17:32:08 No.10838810 Report

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>>10838734
>intermediate lifts according to symmetric strength
I've never been able to get past this point because my muscles won't grow

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 17:51:16 No.10838848 Report

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>>10838734 Lucky you cycling before/after lifting are an exception. Not sure if that's only the case if you get protein right after. But it's different from e.g. doing aerobic ecercise on days where you don't lift for example.
I'm sure there's a way to combine them in a good way, but it's hard, research is missing and it will probably still impede benefits of both.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 17:54:59 No.10838862 Report

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>>10838848 *aerobic exercise like especially strenous running.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 17:57:52 No.10838867 Report

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Is swimming enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:06:51 No.10838881 Report

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>>10838718
Feel kinda slow, not very aware of things and less of a firm grip on my thoughts. Subtle enough you wouldn't really notice, (it can be hard to notice what state your mind is in overall really) but as soon as the blood starts flowing, I notice those effects are lifted. Like a rush of clarity/focus, getting rid of a fog I didn't even know was there.
Keep in mind, a large portion of what I'm describing could be the result of morning grogginess and I'm just shaking it off by exercising.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:08:07 No.10838886 Report

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>>10838734
Probably because you arent lifting to significantly build muscle however as a body builder type fella you really do have to cap your cardio if you want gains. Many body builders and sport lifters arent even allowed to do more than walking.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:12:58 No.10838893 Report

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>>10834693
No evidence that BDNF from exercise improves cognitive function. Youre just neurobabbling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:18:42 No.10838910 Report

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>>10834693
>exercise is good for your brain
STOP THE PRESSES

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:38:36 No.10838950 Report

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>>10838848
The benefits of cardio are quite clear and appear to exceed that of lifting. EVEN if doing cardio somehow slightly negatively influenced muscle gain it's still very worth it. Don't be lazy.

>>10838886
Tons of bodybuilders do cardio because being on steroids and not doing cardio is a definite path to fucking up your heart and health. And if you're not on steroids and competing than who gives a shit about a minuscule negative influence on muscle gain compared to ALL the benefits?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:43:25 No.10838970 Report

Quoted By: >>10838989 >>10839074 >>10839086

What's the difference between swimming and cardio?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:49:09 No.10838989 Report

Quoted By: >>10838991

>>10838970
guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:49:47 No.10838991 Report

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>>10838989

I mean from the health perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 18:59:36 No.10839020 Report

Quoted By: >>10839037

>>10838950
I lift weights but don't do cardio at all. This thread makes me want to cardio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:07:01 No.10839037 Report

Quoted By: >>10839123

>>10839020
Why not just start? It's not hard and it doesn't take up that much time, literally just start today. It's probably one of the best things you can do in with your time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:19:26 No.10839061 Report

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>>10834698
just be yourself bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:22:50 No.10839070 Report

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>>10835893
do it more until your disease pussies out and leaves, just like Teddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:25:29 No.10839074 Report

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>>10838970

swimming IS cardio.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:31:11 No.10839086 Report

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>>10838970

Swimming is better than conventional cardio as you have to fight against water resistance and works better with articulations.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:31:59 No.10839087 Report

Quoted By: >>10839121 >>10839656

here is why cycling is the best form of cardio IMO
>low impact on joints
>you can do really long workouts even as a beginner
>you get to see more places and stimulate your brain with new experiences
>you get to socialize with other riders. whereas runners are usually not the talkative type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:45:29 No.10839107 Report

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>>10834693
How much cardio per week is required to benefit brain function? What constitutes as cardio, i.e walking, running etc.?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:54:01 No.10839121 Report

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>>10839087
Most importantly, bikes are cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 19:54:41 No.10839123 Report

Quoted By: >>10839305

>>10839037
OK bud, lets do it. For a short period (~3 weeks) I did run on the treadmill before lifting. First time I almost died after 5 minutes at 10 km/h, on the last day I could do 15 minutes and felt great. The reason I stopped was because I felt like it was taking energy away from me, energy that I'd need later when I lift.

Perhaps I can run when I'm done with the lifting?

Apart from running what else counts as cardio?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 21:04:42 No.10839305 Report

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>>10839123
Anything that gets your heart rate up man, my personal favorite is the stationary bikes at the gym because I can play games on my phone or shitpost on 4chan or watch youtube videos.

Do anything that makes your heart beat fast and do it for an extended period of time, since it sounds like your cardio isn't very good you shouldn't try HIIT just yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 21:15:49 No.10839332 Report

Quoted By: >>10839363

>>10834693
tfw exhaustion just getting out of bed and locking the door
sometimes i fear for my life

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 21:19:08 No.10839339 Report

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Cardio is 100% a waste of time
Imagine putting in effort to look exactly the same lmao

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 21:31:16 No.10839363 Report

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>>10839332
kek same

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 22:18:30 No.10839461 Report

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>>10834693
I bike several miles every other day
No where’s my goddamn telekinesis?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 23:37:18 No.10839656 Report

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>>10839087
>not indoor biking in front of /sci/ to double stimulate your brain

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jul 2019 23:40:53 No.10839667 Report

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for those who dont really like to go out you should definitely get a spinning bike or at least a pic related bike for your home so you can do cardio several times per week being comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jul 2019 00:01:23 No.10839720 Report

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Best is the devils trio. Easy run, HIIT then some weights

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