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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 08:09:21 2019 No.10826970 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>10827007 >>10827030 >>10827097 >>10827187 >>10828255 >>10828683 >>10828819

Physics majors be like "I know way more than all of you brainlets"
Physics majors be like "ALL sciences are just derivatives from Physics"
Physics majors be like "I ackshually know why we do these things unlike you engineer oompa loompas"

Physics is the Philosophy of STEM: Unemployable in all aspects except academia but massively self-aggrandizing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:14:02 No.10826979 Report

Quoted By: >>10827040 >>10827101 >>10827120

Have sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:27:26 No.10827004 Report

Quoted By: >>10827101

have iq

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:30:53 No.10827007 Report

Quoted By: >>10827019 >>10827034 >>10827041 >>10827181

>>10826970
>physicists have been working on a "theory of everything" for the past 100 or so years
>they don't even realize that such a theory is impossible, something philosophers have known for 2k years and mathematicians have known for 300 years
what retards

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:33:26 No.10827011 Report

Quoted By: >>10827101

Have cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:35:55 No.10827019 Report

Quoted By: >>10827039

>>10827007
mathematicians say a lot of shit is impossible and physicists have to hold their hand every time they make a breakthrough and explain it to them.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:40:09 No.10827030 Report

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>>10826970
>Unemployable in all aspects except academia
The academia is the point of physics. You study physics to study physics and discover new things and make and prove theories by studies. You can also study physics to teach physics for people who want to study physics. You don't study physics to make more money for already rich people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:44:38 No.10827034 Report

Quoted By: >>10827039

>>10827007
>Bunch of posh Cambridge 20th century mathematicians: Implosion is impossible, we PROVED that is impossible 20 years ago!
>Von Neumann and a combat engineer called Kistiakowsky did it anyway
>"Well, uhm, you see, your model is not rigorous a-and..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:47:20 No.10827039 Report

Quoted By: >>10827044 >>10827048 >>10827050

>>10827019
>>10827034
>implying
mathematicians only draw mathematical conclusions. If a mathematician says something incorrect, the data the experimental physicist said was incorrect. But there's no need for data in this case. It is literally just basic philosophy that you can't assume your theory of everything is true because there can be a future event that proves you wrong. Ignoring the religous-like philosophical arguments, there is also math involved that makes theory of everything impossible. For example, there can be no "theory of every differential equation of degree n" where n is greater than or equal to 5. So there's the first failure. Next a theory of everything implies space is quantized, or the set of measurements such a theory would base predictions on would belong to an uncountable set. Since our language is at most countable, there can be no theory of everything. I bet you had no idea about this stuff.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:47:22 No.10827040 Report

Quoted By: >>10827101

>>10826979
Have kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:48:31 No.10827041 Report

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>>10827007
Physics was unified by anon high school science and math teacher, like, 6 months ago. Academics werent even trying to unify physics and they curb stomp anyone in their industry who does. The open question is good for funding. Its like asking why the military doesnt just end the endless war... but then where would they get their money. Oh, and yes Academia has been doing their best to destroy that guy who unified physics. They wont acknowedge him in a million years, probably longer if robots havent enslaved us already by then. Doesnt matter. Academia mean nothing in the internet age anyway. Its a legacy industry

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:51:05 No.10827044 Report

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>>10827041
>>10827039
>there can be no "theory of every differential equation of degree n" where n is greater than or equal to 5
Proof of this has existed for 300 years. How can you have a unified physics if you can't even solve for position given 5 derivatives of motion?

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:53:27 No.10827046 Report

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>>10827044
>300 years
just looked it up. Actually 220 years. Still a really long time for physicists not to catch on. But I guess that's what happens in a discipline that only requires baby math even for the most prestigious in the field.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:55:43 No.10827047 Report

Quoted By: >>10827053

>>10827044

How can I say that physics was unified? Because it was unfied. Its simulated through perfect cellular automaton. You could literally recreate all reality using the algorithm given a big enough computer

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:57:34 No.10827048 Report

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>>10827039
Uhm, no, they were using hyperbolic PDEs deduced from fundamental ideas in real analysis. There's no physical "data" involved you dumbfuck.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:59:36 No.10827050 Report

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>>10827039
>For example, there can be no "theory of every differential equation of degree n" where n is greater than or equal to 5.
This proof assumes that you're working with traditional calculus and group theory.

We already have a general theory developed using modern algebraic topology. Stop spouting uneducated nonsense.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 08:59:57 No.10827053 Report

Quoted By: >>10827055 >>10827110

>>10827047
>>10827048

wrong. post link or schizoposter. Also refute this (you can't)
>there can be no "theory of every differential equation of degree n" where n is greater than or equal to 5
>therefore there can be no unified theory of physics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:01:05 No.10827055 Report

Quoted By: >>10827057

>>10827053
>>>10827048 (You)
Why am I quoted in this post? Don't associate me with the schizo fuck.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:02:57 No.10827057 Report

Quoted By: >>10827071

>>10827050
no it doesn't. There is no general theory as n gets too high. You eventually require only numerical solutions for answers. Then there is no theory, just data.
>>10827055
all of you post links to your shit

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:17:02 No.10827071 Report

Quoted By: >>10827076

>>10827057
> You eventually require only numerical solutions for answers.
No you don't you stupid fuck. You require Hodge decompositions, fixed points, homology groups and so forth.

You're assuming we still care about stupid functions from baby calculus in our theories. Again you are just extremely uneducated, you probably don't even what physicists actually mean when they talk about a unified theory. Just like you won't know what a customer means when he says he wants two sachets of ketchup not one in your future job.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:20:40 No.10827076 Report

Quoted By: >>10827090

>>10827071
i'm not assuming you care about elementary functions. But what you don't understand is that answers that stray too far away from elementary functions are in reality, just numerical answers in disguise. They look symbolic to the untrained eye, such as to a physicist.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:25:37 No.10827090 Report

Quoted By: >>10827098

>>10827076
>just numerical answers in disguise.
No they are not.

>They look symbolic
No they don't, we are way past symbolic computations. No one is paid to find answers that could've been computed by Mathematica software.

Even engineers know this. There are engineers right now using hodge decomposition theory to understand precisely correct vector field manipulations. And here this dumbfuck comes along thinking some algebraic manipulations from 200 years ago and its associated proofs are still relevant to modern day researchers.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:30:56 No.10827097 Report

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>>10826970
>I have just found this meme picture and now I want to share it because I have no friends
The post

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:32:17 No.10827098 Report

Quoted By: >>10827112 >>10827116

>>10827090
Explain this then: what is Erf(7)? some approximation with very difficult symbolic meaning. The same applies to everything you mentioned. Thus, no unified theory is possible.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:33:34 No.10827101 Report

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>>10826979
>>10827004
>>10827011
>>10827040
Have cancer

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:38:13 No.10827110 Report

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>>10827053

Im not going to argue with someone who has already made his mind up. You say I cannot prove unified physics so your ego will push the goalpost as far as it needs to, even off the end of a cliff so to speak. Ive been through this with people like you. Its not worth my time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:41:28 No.10827112 Report

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>>10827098
You mean in real space? You know it's defined there right? As a normal, continuous, extremely easily understood scalar mapping. Maybe you meant that you want to compute a numerical scalar approximation at Erf(7)? This is exactly what I mean, you still numbers matter. Not even symbols matter anymore. Your baby algebra doesn't matter.

>You know that I have to use an approximation to get a scalar value on this arbitrary mapping function right? Thus, no unified theory is possible.

This is not the dumbest thing ever said on this board, but it's pretty damn close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:45:49 No.10827116 Report

Quoted By: >>10827127

>>10827098
Before replying to my next post how about you go ahead and tell us exactly what you think a unified theory of physics refers to?

You still think it's about finding a set of equations that can simulate all the forces of nature don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:48:45 No.10827120 Report

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>>10826979
Have umbilical cord clamped early as a newborn.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:53:30 No.10827127 Report

Quoted By: >>10827134

>>10827116

The unified equation is not a set of equations. It is one equation. Energy / space = The Universe

I dont think you get this. It has already been simulated and proven. Happened around 6 months ago. You could 1 to 1 reproduce all reality using the equation. You can fucking see it happen on computer monitor. The particles bubbling up, creating fields etc...

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 09:58:59 No.10827134 Report

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>>10827127
I like you Anon, you are like owning our own little virtual Zoo monkey.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 10:42:09 No.10827181 Report

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>>10827007
>>physicists have been working on a "theory of everything" for the past 100 or so years

It's called Avdaita Vedanta, and it is thousands of years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 10:46:38 No.10827187 Report

Quoted By: >>10827961

>>10826970
This ought to rustle some jimmies lol.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 18:17:47 No.10827961 Report

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>>10827187
Nah, it is inedible bait. Probably from a failed mathematician.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 20:44:14 No.10828255 Report

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>>10826970
>Physics is the Philosophy of STEM
you misspelled mathematics wrong
theoretical physics are more like woman's studies

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 22:25:42 No.10828508 Report

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>>10828255
And is there a right way to misspell mathematics?

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 23:47:10 No.10828683 Report

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>>10826970
what a fucking loser. kek at all the brainlets that wasted time on good grades and going to college, only to end up as failures.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Jul 2019 23:55:54 No.10828701 Report

Quoted By: >>10828930 >>10829860

ITT people who know nothing about physics or academia don't notice the "Reading University" caveat in the article.

seriously, guys, it's like getting a PhD in Political Science at the Kim Il Sung University of Pyongyang

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2019 00:42:32 No.10828819 Report

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>>10826970
Wow what a story. Im not a physicist, but he must have been an experimental physicist and never gotten in touch with programming. Otherwise I don't understand how a call center would be his only option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2019 01:07:14 No.10828900 Report

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For all the shit Chemistry and Biology get, at least you can get work as a lab technician or assistant at most medical facilities.

When asked "what can you do with your degree if you don't want to be a grad student?", Physics majors always answer shit like "You can teach yourself code" and "the analytical skills it grants you makes you very employable", which sounds like the kind of cope from humanities people.

Imagine getting the hardest degree only to end up as a code monkey even below CS, or an engineer that never saw applications of what he studied.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2019 01:14:16 No.10828930 Report

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>>10828701
Why do meme-tier universities even offer PhDs? I know they want your shekels, but why haven't people wizened up and realized that x PhD from x non-competitive state school in bumfuck nowhere isn't going to land them a job?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:34:03 No.10829860 Report

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>>10828701
In the UK there is a system with external examiners, that is someone from a different university, to sit in on the viva and make sure PhD degrees are not handed out like candies.

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