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Anonymous Tue 22 Mar 21:30:24 2022 No.14326834 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14338955 >>14339199 >>14339274 >>14339278 >>14339752

Is demographics a science?
Since human overpopulation is bullshit what are the best solutions to the incoming aging of the world? How were Jews able to sustain high birth rate despite being a developed nation? Post some cool demographic schemes

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Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2022 09:25:20 No.14330740 Report

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>>14330023
>I have such a "winner's mindset" that I write programs to perform GWAS and I edit genomes in order to express my ideal phenotype, and I consider myself to be such a winner that I'm going to convert the entire human race into this phenotype regardless of whether or not you want it to happen.
Very based Anon, I wish you the best of luck in avoiding the authorities in your embargo violating endeavours. I genuinely support your ambitions.

>There are levels to this anon, you're not on my level. You're still playing in the mud, so to speak.
>Implying I'm even playing in the prison of flesh

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 00:51:53 No.14333286 Report

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>>14328197
This is a really good explanation, thanks for taking your time to write it down. I had similar feelings to try and explain it but you nailed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 00:59:18 No.14333308 Report

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Israel is a racist, xenophobic, theocratic, illegitimate apartheid settler state.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 01:08:33 No.14333340 Report

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>>14326857
Oh fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 01:10:08 No.14333346 Report

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>>14329019
We are actively witnessing the greatest evolutionary period in humans history.

For background, lets discuss the concept of fluid and crystallized intelligence. Fluid intelligence is basically your ability to solve novel problems, problems which lack a "background" or structure, it's sort of a measure of unordered thought. Crystallized intelligence is your ability to solve problems by application of previously learned ideas, it's a measure of "ordered" or structured thought. What we know is that fluid intelligence is negatively correlated with fertility, people with higher fluid intelligence have fewer kids. Crystallized intelligence has no correlated with fertility, or may even have a positive one. Jews, for some reason, probably have lower fluid intelligence on average than Europeans, but higher crystallized intelligence. Asians have higher fluid, lower crystallized. Basically our modern environments REALLY reward crystallized intelligence, like A LOT, so humans are rapidly losing fluid ability and gaining crystallized, Jews already basically evolved this during the medieval period, and Europeans slightly did as well, though not to the same extent.

Basically, Asians are fucked. Their fluid intelligence is too high and genetic diversity too low for them to realistically improve birthrates before they die out.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 01:21:57 No.14333375 Report

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>>14329019
>>14333346
I should also add, crystallized intelligence doesn't appear to have a correlation with brain size, while fluid intelligence does. It's the reason why somebody like Einstein had a normal sized head, and the smartest scientists in the world don't have massive craniums. Getting to the highest level of math and physics is one of the most "crystallized" feats possible, it requires way more crystallized intelligence than anything else in human history. Our brains have also been shrinking, for some reason 5k years ago completely novel human cultural discoveries (discovering which requires fluid intelligence) reached a "critical point" where the number of new discoveries was outpaced by discoveries which add onto the previous ones (a crystallized intelligence measure), essentially cultures began to add more onto the culture they had, as opposed to discovering completely new stuff, and thus our brains shrank.

Modern human societies are basically this on steroids. In just 500 years we went from numerous completely novel problems being unsolved to pretty much the only problems left being in the upper reaches of science/mathematics. In just 500 years our cultures have shifted to using even LESS fluid intelligence than they were before, and exponentially more crystallized, this is probably the period in human history when our brains are shrinking now more than ever before.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 01:23:20 No.14333382 Report

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>>14326966
>Jewish bangbus
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 01:26:32 No.14333391 Report

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>>14327978
>Their fertility rate has already plummeted way faster than was projected when this model was developed.
wtf are you talking about
their tfr barely budges

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 01:27:00 No.14333393 Report

Quoted By: >>14333584 >>14334453 >>14334457

>>14326846
Ultraorthodox are unironically killing Israel because they literally refuse to work but still have huge birthrates. They're pretty much all glorified welfare queens to the point that its straining the Israeli state

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 02:54:04 No.14333584 Report

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>>14333393
Israel is a welfare state. Americans are footing that bill.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 09:20:17 No.14334441 Report

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>>14333391
You're using an old UN estimate, the newer models show the world population will taper off at 10 bil mostly because African and MENA TFR is decreasing faster than predicted.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 09:38:38 No.14334453 Report

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>>14333393
What's killing Israel is left-leaning cancer like you, not that I particularly care, since this farcical ZOG state has never produced anything of value and deserves to rot away.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Mar 2022 09:40:18 No.14334457 Report

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>>14333393
>Be Southern Italians in Imperial Rome
>See everyone around you adopt this new trendy thing call Christianity
>Remember that the Roman legions slaugthered all the Hebrews
>Decide to be extra edgy and add insult to injury by stealing their cultural and religious identity so that you can have a more elite club than early Christians while breeding with your slaves
>Spend the next two millenia LARPing as Jews and pissing off European Christians, playing victim when you get caught for perfidy
>Get Israel from the Anglos and meet the the 90 IQ NAFRIs that the did the same thing you did.

The Askhenazi Jews carrying that nation absolutely CANNOT afford to distance themselves from the Mizrahis, Sephardis, or even beta-Isrealites, because it means their near 2000 year LARP was all for nothing and that Jewish identity has even less claim to Israel than real Semites like Arabs.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 01:55:47 No.14336596 Report

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>>14333346
Are you joking? Asians have nothing but crystallized intelligence. They've been selecting for it for centuries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 02:37:15 No.14336673 Report

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>>14327715
that's not tundra
it's part of china's rust belt
all the men are stuck there while women flock to the cities in the rest of china to find a rich rusband

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 21:25:52 No.14338650 Report

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>>14326864
wtf is even this

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 22:39:40 No.14338847 Report

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>>14326897
lmao, kim bettert start a breeding program

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 22:42:17 No.14338859 Report

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>>14338650
A vagina plot

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 22:43:18 No.14338862 Report

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>>14338859
Violin*

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 22:56:31 No.14338890 Report

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>>14336596
>Asians have nothing but crystallized intelligence.
HAHAHAHAHA no. Euros absolutely mog Asians in terms of crystallized ability, to say nothing about Jews. Asians are probably the demographic with the highest fluid intelligence in the world, but everything has a trade off, and the trade off is that they sacrificed crystallized ability.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Mar 2022 23:28:39 No.14338955 Report

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>>14326834
>infinite population growth GOOD
>sustainable population growth and steady stable decline before/during peak resources BAD
you fags really should read malthus. we are very lucky that populations are declining on their own without the need for positive checks. picrel (ignore the dates) doesn't hold if populations are declining.
modern economy is built on the idea of infinite growth and jerking off to green arrows so politicians obviously don't like this and encourage people to reproduce/import 3rdies

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 00:38:48 No.14339141 Report

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>>14338890
>t. has never met an asian person

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 00:43:58 No.14339150 Report

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>>14326882
If you go to France you'd understand why. It's easily majority low education migrants. France will be an entirely different country in 20 years.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 00:48:51 No.14339161 Report

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>>14338955
>malthus
>2022
You are retard. Your opinion discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:06:11 No.14339194 Report

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wasn't ready for this black pill thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:08:36 No.14339199 Report

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>>14326834
>how were jews able to sustain high birth rate
how is the Ashkenazi birth rate looking?

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:11:12 No.14339206 Report

Quoted By: >>14339240

>>14338890
>sacrificed crystallized ability
They literally filter themselves in countries like China through systems like the gaokao that rely on crystallized. What are you talking about. kek

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:32:08 No.14339240 Report

Quoted By: >>14339252

>>14339141
>>14339206
The primary feature of mongoloids is a genetic predisposition towards higher fluid intelligence than crystallized. This can be reflected by the well documented differences where Asians have the highest spatial intelligence of any group and lower verbal ability than white people. Spatial intelligence falls squarely within the fluid domain, where verbal intelligence is mostly crystallized with some fluid.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:33:42 No.14339243 Report

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Oh boy here comes the rice brigade

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:35:35 No.14339252 Report

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>>14339199
It's skewed upwards by the ultra-orthodox having ten kids.

>>14339240
What you're saying has absolutely no relation to real life.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:45:44 No.14339274 Report

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>>14326834
>he doesn't know about the Breeders' Revenge

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/breeders-revenge/

>Europe and White America will be converging with the state of Israel today, with TFRs approaching 3 children per woman and looking to triple-quadruple their populations in the coming century, reaching the demographic scale of Asia today by 2200.
>The US may end that century as majority White again, having lost that status around the 2040s.
>The precise details of what will happen in Europe will depend on unknowables, such as the extent to which it becomes Africanized during the 21st century, and the interplay of shifting ethnic proportions with Islamic conversion. However, one minimal thing we can say is that after reaching a minimum sometime in the second half of the 21st century, the share of the indigenous European population will begin to increase again in the 22nd century. They will be concentrated in the small towns and rural areas, and will begin to demographically push back into the Afro-Islamic big cities.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:45:58 No.14339276 Report

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I wish we had more discussion about demography. It is a really cool and important subject that is not given enough attention by basically anyone. Good job OP

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:47:13 No.14339278 Report

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>>14326834
The more important question is how to stop demographics from creating an idiocracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmhEOQuUahU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5X18lqyDO0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYWIyga245g

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:48:24 No.14339279 Report

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USA Amish population distribution
They have spread out a lot in recent decades, the home clusters in OH and PA have sent out lots of feelers

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 01:53:40 No.14339293 Report

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>>14326939
>>14326942
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/where-are-russias-breeders/

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 04:32:35 No.14339618 Report

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bump

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 04:40:06 No.14339623 Report

Quoted By: >>14339641

Some genes actually both make you more intelligent and make you have more kids, the idea of dysgenics is dumb. I should also add that the genetic architecture of European intelligence is fundamentally different than the genetic architecture of Asian intelligence. They're fundamentally different to the point where it's almost difficult to compare them.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 04:57:54 No.14339641 Report

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>>14339623
>the idea of dysgenics is dumb
In this day and age it really is, it requires a lot of critical-thinking and free-will for one to see through the anti-natalist cloud. That is why demographics is such a niche topic. Most people have an authoritarian personality.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 04:59:08 No.14339644 Report

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And also have another gorgeous population cartogram

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 06:04:00 No.14339742 Report

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Something that really bothers me is that feminists always complain that women have a harder life than men, but that isn't true. Just look at life expectancy or, as this map shows, suicide rates.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 06:09:44 No.14339752 Report

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>>14326834
Because some ultraorthodox - orthodox jews sometimes have up to 10+ children each.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 11:52:23 No.14340287 Report

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Both Dakotas and Nebraska have a total fertility rate higher than Utah

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 12:32:14 No.14340365 Report

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 13:00:27 No.14340419 Report

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>>14326857
This is assuming that the common prediction models are correct, which I’m inclined to assume they are not. A lot of population predictions in the past have overshot, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the ones most commonly given today are overshooting as well. Even if you look at the birth rates of African countries, they’re still above replacement level, but are also falling quickly.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 13:15:19 No.14340439 Report

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>>14326942
>1.5

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 16:33:46 No.14341016 Report

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>>14339752
>>14329019

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 16:37:18 No.14341030 Report

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>>14326950
>>people are happier because they have more elbow room

Housing gets cheaper,
there are more jobs for younger people
Younger people start having larger families
Problem solves itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 16:46:24 No.14341059 Report

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>>14326950
>The future's looking bright lads.
Not if we import millions of foreigners to keep citizens poor it's not.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 19:57:55 No.14341692 Report

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>>14326857
bretty sure they'll just starve bc nobody gonna feed em

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 02:08:51 No.14342730 Report

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>>14341692
>bretty sure they'll just starve bc nobody gonna feed em

Runs a Charity with Hundreds of Billions of dollars and is willing to spend it all to 'save' Africa.

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