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Neuro-biology of trans-sexuality

OH NO Tue 08 Feb 06:14:59 2022 No.14200383 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14205480 >>14205764 >>14205961 >>14205988 >>14207555

https://youtu.be/8QScpDGqwsQ

What do you think about this? Looks like homos and trannies did have different brains all along. I kinda feel bad about it but it still weirds me out as unnatural.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:28:09 No.14205477 Report

Quoted By: >>14205488

>>14205473
They are an unknown variable and should not be thrown out just because they have not been quantified. They could turn out to be the most important variable in the human experience. What Sapolsky says, is that biological functions are inferior to social games, and social games are a subset of biological functions and so he has many logical problems that philosophy could help him out with, but he is unable to approach philosophy due to his blatant pro-social bias. Philosophy could literally help him better confirm his point of view, but he doesn't approach it and I suspect the reason why is because deep down he knows it doesn't hold water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:30:09 No.14205480 Report

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>>14200383
Well we know there are no male brains or female brains, just human brains. So how could it be LGBT individuals have different brains. This is just homophobic and transphobic propaganda from a white cis man to justify the unequal treatment of LGBT individuals. Shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:34:58 No.14205488 Report

Quoted By: >>14205506

>>14205477
>They are an unknown variable and should not be thrown out just because they have not been quantified.
Then why did you get bent out of shape over my comparison? Seems to me like you have some hunch about the usefulness of kneejerk reactions (or a lack therefore).

>What Sapolsky says, is that biological functions are inferior to social games
What Sapolsky says, is that you shouldn't form your worldview by rationalizing emotional kneejerk reactions. If you're not on board with that, I question your level of sentience. Disgust is a biological function, and it clearly serves a purpose, but that doesn't mean everything you're disgusted with warrants a negative reaction, nigger. This is why you have a prefrontal cortex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:42:37 No.14205506 Report

Quoted By: >>14205515

>>14205488
What was your comparrison?

I never said that "kneejerk reactions" are a justification for anything, I am saying that you simply do not know. Sapolsky goes much further than your statement, he picks and chooses the kneejerk reactions in accordance to his worldview. He should leave all of it on the table until he actually happens to possess a quantification.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:45:38 No.14205515 Report

Quoted By: >>14205525

>>14205506
>you simply do not know
Yes, I do. Being disgusted with troons serves no biological purpose. Troons are not a threat to any of my goals as a biological organism.

>he picks and chooses the kneejerk reactions in accordance to his worldview
Everybody does. Show me where he says that disgust serves no biological function.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:49:43 No.14205525 Report

Quoted By: >>14205532

>>14205515
He acknowledges it serves a function, but he decides that it ought to be ignored in favor of other byproducts of kneejerk reactions. This is absolutely reckless. It could be the case that, evolution working slower than social games, that social games are far more important, or it could as well be the opposite case and that evolution is vastly more important than social games. The two are constantly in flux with each other, and requires a heavy restriction of bias if you wish to do anything beyond make pointless noise.

>Yes, I do. Being disgusted with troons serves no biological purpose. Troons are not a threat to any of my goals as a biological organism.
You literally do not know this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:51:40 No.14205532 Report

Quoted By: >>14205555

>>14205525
>he decides that it ought to be ignored
Show me where he suggests it ought to be dismissed out of hand in every instance.

>You literally do not know this.
I do. You're just mentally ill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 11:58:48 No.14205555 Report

Quoted By: >>14205564

>>14205532
>He acknowledges
I literally said he doesn't say that it should be dismissed, but that he chooses when.

>You're mentally ill
Okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:04:39 No.14205564 Report

Quoted By: >>14205569

>>14205555
>he doesn't say that it should be dismissed, but that he chooses when
So does everyone else, and it's what you should do. You have the capacity for self-reflection so that you could catch the irrational emotional reactions that drive your thinking, and restart your thought process with this understanding in mind. Like I said at the very start, you're asshurt because he isn't a niggerbrain like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:07:36 No.14205569 Report

Quoted By: >>14205577

>>14205564
I'm not asshurt at all anon, yes 100% this is absolutely what everybody does, my point is that someone is his position needs to constantly strive to supercede that level. Bias. Yes, I am asking a lot of him. I am critical because I like the guy and see a lot of potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:11:21 No.14205577 Report

Quoted By: >>14205579

>>14205569
He doesn't need to overcome any bias, nigger. He has clearly reflected on it and arrived at the correct conclusion that letting disgust drive your interactions with other people is counterproductive niggerbrain behavior. Meanwhile you're stuck in a laughable loop of low IQ rationalizations ("b-b-b-b-but how can we know for sure that the troons can't hurt us??" etc.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:12:47 No.14205579 Report

Quoted By: >>14205591

>>14205577
I have never said I disagree with him, niggerbrain. I am saying he has not done a good enough job. His work is very important, and he is reckless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:16:27 No.14205591 Report

Quoted By: >>14205601

>>14205579
>he has not done a good enough job
And yet you're still unable to point out anything he's done wrong. Dismissing disgust against troons as the emotional kneejerk reaction that it is, is not a scientific fault. Your insistence that it serves some biological purpose is just a low IQ niggerbrain rationalization, and if you had some degree of self-awareness, you'd realize you're just reacting to some sociopolitical boogeyman you associate his position with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:20:25 No.14205601 Report

Quoted By: >>14205607

>>14205591
I didn't insist that at all, and you are coming off as extremely emotional. I have pointed out that his methodology is no better than an everyday person's sensibilities. His job ought to be more important than that. I think you should really consider that you are the sociopolitical reactionary, I am just interested in an appropriate process.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:22:08 No.14205607 Report

Quoted By: >>14205618

>>14205601
Give me a specific quote of him saying something "reckless" that demonstrates his "faulty methodology". So far, it just seems like you're asspained over him correctly characterizing your emotional reactions as biologically pointless artefacts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:26:51 No.14205618 Report

Quoted By: >>14205620

>>14205607
Anon my posts regarding his take on disgust should be sufficient for this. He has a talk called "hate and the brain" check it out. I think you are just trying to say that if you agree with someone you shouldn't require a better standard of them, and this I just do not jive with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:27:52 No.14205620 Report

Quoted By: >>14205682

>>14205618
So you're not going to provide any actual quotes we can discuss. Color me surprised. Yeah, cry more, conservanigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:47:59 No.14205682 Report

Quoted By: >>14205704

>>14205620
Look I'm at work. Maybe in 8+ hours. You are a very judgemental person. Get a life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:55:52 No.14205690 Report

Quoted By: >>14205693

>>14205288
based
>>14205370
In which areas? You have to meet him half way anon. Sapolsky's mentioned like three pieces of research in the video. Where is the problem with which one and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 12:58:37 No.14205693 Report

Quoted By: >>14205694

>>14205690
I didn't watch this video, I was making a general comment on my feelings about the man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:00:48 No.14205694 Report

Quoted By: >>14205698

>>14205693
You wot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:06:44 No.14205698 Report

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>>14205694
I wot indeed. I wot a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:09:32 No.14205704 Report

Quoted By: >>14205717

>>14205682
Funny how you weren't concerned about work until I asked you to give me something concrete to work with.

Nigger, I'm just tired of your crew trying to elevate "durrr... I'm gonna go with my gut feeling on this one" into some radical intellectual stance. You don't represent an intellectual counter-culture; you don't represent some alternative intellectual elite; you represent a reaction against intellectualism itself, and that reaction is inevitable and necessary, but what you dumb fucks fail to realize is that you lose any semblence of legitimacy when you go around trying to sell your anti-intellectualism as intellectualism 2.0. You're clearly unable to put forward any concrete criticism of Sapolsky, and that's because he's not really doing or saying anything wrong; he's a good-natured man trying to impart some intersection of rationality and compassion on his students. He's not lying to them. He's not fooling them. He's not misleading them. Unfortunately, he's operating in the context of a society where such efforts are subsumed into a program of intentional social disintegration that only poses as rational and compassionate. The only thing I can fault him with, is some kind of naivete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:15:39 No.14205717 Report

Quoted By: >>14205723

>>14205704
Bro, I can make short comments but you asked for more rigor. You will have to wait for that. I am not a republican. You are very very sick. I have done nothing but state that I want a higher standard before you take off running with assumptions and likes and dislikes. What do you gain out of reducing intellectual standards? my criticism of Sapolsky I have made VERY clear, and you just don't like it. Get over yourself, all you did was flame me for this entire thread. It's sad. Addrrss yourself. I have stated multiple times that I like Sapolsky, of course I think he is a good person. You are nuts. I am done texting and driving for the sake of somebody so delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:18:05 No.14205723 Report

Quoted By: >>14205741

>>14205717
Nigger, you're just keep posting some vague fart about his "faulty methodology", but you can't elaborate on it any further than accusing him of putting "social games over biological functions" for telling you to question your emotional kneejerk reactions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:23:37 No.14205741 Report

Quoted By: >>14205751

>>14205723
Stop being so dogmatic. Just read my posts over and over again until your head clears up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:27:36 No.14205751 Report

Quoted By: >>14205759

>>14205741
Your sharts have zero intellectual substance: something you prove over and over by failing to provide concrete examples of things he said that demonstrate his "faulty methodology". You will keep replying to this thread, because you're an impulsive niggerbrain, but no matter how many times you do, you will never progress beyond vague accusations and generic talking points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:30:30 No.14205759 Report

Quoted By: >>14205763

>>14205751
I've made my case and I do have nothing else to say. If it is not good enough for you, perhaps nothing will be. Perhaps you have a lot of personal problems. I did go back on my statement that I would stop replying, I have a few moments right now. That will change soon. But really, I have nothing to add to what I've said. It is something that I firmly believe in and feel is very important to the discovery of reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:31:56 No.14205763 Report

Quoted By: >>14205773

>>14205759
>I've made my case
Not until you substantiace your accusations with concrete examples. Notice how you're forced to keep replying to try to save face, but you will never provide such examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:32:18 No.14205764 Report

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>>14200383
I don't doubt there's something different with their brains.
But brains clearly change durimg development.
It would be more interesting if there was scans done of trans people a few years into their transition against a control done at 10 age year intervals.
You could conduct another one that looks at the changes in the brain over time when "transitioning".
My point is that i suspect that the hormones or lack of, changes their brain over time and at different rates depending on the age.
Some other things to look out for would be mental illness affecting the study. Which would make it hard as most "trans" people have diagnosed mental illnesses.

This won't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:35:01 No.14205773 Report

Quoted By: >>14205781

>>14205763
Nah I was just trying to time it with the end of my free time, but I have more than expected. Are you capable of anything beyond personal attacks? Watch Sapolsky's "hate and the brain" and, the entirety of it is relevant to this situation as I am making a point about his disposition and methodology, this encompasses almost all of what he does. You should need nothing more, but I suspect you want me to be specific because you are vwry threatened and want another chance at picking apart what I have already very clear. Apply my words to any set of his words. Have fun. I encourage you to stop seeing everything through a political lens. I still haven't done that to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:37:35 No.14205781 Report

Quoted By: >>14205784

>>14205773
>replies again
>still no concrete examples
LOL. Notice how you're forced to keep replying to try to save face, but you will never provide examples to substantiate your accusations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:38:31 No.14205784 Report

Quoted By: >>14205786

>>14205781
I did actually, a lot of my posts are regarding this. Perhaps you don't know Sapolsky well enough to know when I am referencing his positions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:39:03 No.14205786 Report

Quoted By: >>14205788

>>14205784
>replies again
>still no concrete examples
LOL. Notice how you're forced to keep replying to try to save face, but you will never provide examples to substantiate your accusations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:39:52 No.14205788 Report

Quoted By: >>14205801 >>14207426

>>14205786
Please read the entire series of my posts again, you will see you are wrong. Hopefully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:45:03 No.14205801 Report

Quoted By: >>14205810 >>14207395

>>14205788
Ooops. Looks like I got your little nigger brain locked in a loop: you have to keep replying to save face, but you can't actually defend your position or make any progress. I guess I could keep abusing your broken NPC programming and watch you screech over and over how you're too busy with work to try to substantiate your position, but I'm starting to get secondhand embarrassment from this. Let's watch you reply to this post again, directly or indirectly, even though I'm now hiding this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 13:49:25 No.14205810 Report

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>>14205801
I have nothing to add, and darn look here I did reply again oh no I am so owned and btfo. Has been fun lad, take care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 14:49:36 No.14205961 Report

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>>14200383
yeah we know mentally ill brains are abnormal OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 14:59:05 No.14205988 Report

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>>14200383
this vid is old as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 19:34:10 No.14207026 Report

Quoted By: >>14207089

>>14205296
Sapolsky is obsessed with cuckoldry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 19:49:05 No.14207089 Report

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>>14207026
He's obsessed with violence and sexuality, like almost all primatologists, and not any particular aspect of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 20:37:14 No.14207344 Report

Quoted By: >>14207421 >>14207557

>>14205342
take your meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 20:46:07 No.14207395 Report

Quoted By: >>14207557

>>14205801
take your meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 20:51:21 No.14207421 Report

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>>14207344
Never

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 20:52:32 No.14207426 Report

Quoted By: >>14207545 >>14207550

>>14205788
Sapolsky may be wrong in his conclusion, but I still respect him for trying to interpret the data. If I read you right, you are saying he should simply wait until there is more data?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 21:25:47 No.14207545 Report

Quoted By: >>14207550

>>14207426
No I think he is capable, but he doesn't approach the field that would help him out a lot. I respect him for trying to interpret the data as well. I think he avoids philosophy, he says he doesn't understand it, but I think he is telling a white lie. By interpretation, he is doing philosophy, so he has no reason to evade people that have gone to the utter depths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 21:26:48 No.14207550 Report

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>>14207545
>>14207426
But yes, probably more data is also needed, but more striving can be done in the mean time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 21:27:35 No.14207555 Report

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>>14200383
that is a jew my friend...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 21:27:57 No.14207557 Report

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>>14207344
>>14207395
Consume pharmaceuticals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Feb 2022 21:59:55 No.14207676 Report

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>>14202668
Kek.

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