>>2421076Hmm.. you're the first guy to ever really counter my thoughts without just reinforcing their thoughts that that fluffy loving sex is bad or boring. That being said, I do see your point about people needing a certain kind of roughness to get rough, or wanting to be treated like a "slut" to get off. Its just, I don't know, heart breaking, I guess, that some people can only get off when they're being degraded and told harsh things like them only being used for a cum slut and whatnot, when they get so used to thinking bad or poorly about themselves that it becomes a system for their physical pleasure. Then it develops into wanting to be roughly messed with and even abused, and its all just disheartening, cause sex should be about fluffy love, not abuse, or submission, or dominance. That isn't to say I am only for vanilla sex, though, I've got dirty kinks like anyone else, but anything that involves degrading or hurting the partner, even if it is for them to get off... nah. I'd rather they get off at my determination to make every part of their body feel good, and then we can do whatever from there, vanilla sex or other kinky lewd stuff. Just not abuse or selfishness. I'm a fag, I know.