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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 20:13:28 2022 No.14431366 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14431415 >>14431427 >>14431473 >>14431794

Hi,

What advice would you give a student going int computer science? If you could go back and change the way you learned CS, what would you change?

Thanks.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:20:55 No.14431394 Report

Quoted By: >>14431474

pls respond

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:26:41 No.14431415 Report

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>>14431366
Don't go to college for CS. get a job and learn as you go

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:29:53 No.14431427 Report

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>>14431366
I would skip CS and learn it with coursera, do some certificates and get a Junior Developer job.

Then maybe after some time I would do a CS major. By this you can properly delve into the theoretical abyss and actually understand it. unlike most CS students, that just memorize, puke out during exam and then forget forever.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:39:50 No.14431452 Report

Quoted By: >>14431468 >>14431934

CS degrees are useless.

Engineer, math, physics, stats degrees are a lot more worthy. You can get a CS minor though and take the very few classes that are useful like data structures and algorithms.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:46:33 No.14431468 Report

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>>14431452
true. learning engineering jobs at unis is for suckers - especially computer science.

If you have to go to Uni because otherwise your parents kill you go study Physics and take some numerical computation courses. Learn programming on the side (which isnt difficult if youre smart enough to succeed at studying physics).

Will be MUCH better this way. Universities are just way to far away from engineering, theyre too academic. Youll be better off learning science in uni

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:47:58 No.14431473 Report

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>>14431366
Get a degree in physics. You'll end up working as a programmer, but you won't be unemployable

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:48:08 No.14431474 Report

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>>14431394
post vagine

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:16:09 No.14431548 Report

Quoted By: >>14431567 >>14431582

If I already know how to program is a CS degree useless? It it just coding bootcamp like they meme? I am also interested in physics but my true passion lies in CS.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:20:11 No.14431567 Report

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>>14431548
>If I already know how to program is a CS degree useless?
yes

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:22:30 No.14431582 Report

Quoted By: >>14431592 >>14431620 >>14432056

>>14431548
no bootcamp.

. do you know algorithmics (search and sorting algos, which are better for which case?)
- do you know pros and cons of using different data structures? tuples, vs maps/structs/dicts vs lists etc
- can you truly code in an object oriented way? So fully utilising classes (public and private)
- can you also code in a procedural way if necessary, what about data-oriented programming? very important to knwo how to do when doing low level programming
- do you know insutry standard communication protocols? Every createed a SPA? E.g. using react and rest apis wirrten in Go, deployed with docker?
- do you know pros and cons of different design patterns in programming? Have you used some of them before?

Those are all things you need to know well as a SWE. I think it is possible and bes practice to do this OUTSIDE of uni. But most hobbyists need to really go the extra mile to achieve sufficient maturity

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:22:40 No.14431583 Report

Quoted By: >>14431604 >>14431770

Graduated top of my class. Senior year made 7 figures before I even graduated. Got offers to FAANG companies.

1). If you don't code outside of class, you're going to fall behind.
2). Start doing Leetcode immediately and do not stop.
3). You will likely rarely use the theory you learn, depending on your job, but if you don't try and learn it you are seriously hampering your abilities down the road.
4). Don't fucking argue what languages are better or what paradigms are better with classmates or teachers. You look like a moron. They are all tools to achieve a means.
5). Verbal and written communication skills are often more important than math skills. Learn to write and community effectively.
6). START APPLYING FOR INTERNSHIPS IN SPRING. APPLY EVERYWHERE YOU CAN. EAT FAILURE FOR BREAKFAST AND DON'T STOP UNTIL YOU GET SOMETHING.
7). Have fun. If you aren't having fun, switch to something else because life is spent not being miserable.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:24:50 No.14431592 Report

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>>14431582
oh and also important are devops things like agile and scrum. Most devs hat it but you need to know how to work in a team that uses the methodology.

What about Software testing, like unit tests. Also an industry standard that most hobbyists dont have a clue about

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:26:22 No.14431604 Report

Quoted By: >>14431646

>>14431583
Doesnt get any more LARP than this. or I fell for a troll

fucking pajeets with their dreams

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:30:37 No.14431620 Report

Quoted By: >>14431646 >>14431674

>>14431582
>algos
Some
>which data structures
Yes
>oop
No
>procedural
Yes
>data oriented
No
>industry standard
No
>design patterns
Some
I have a question for you. learning best practices and industry standards develop over time with experience, right? could I get a job in CS without those things if I had, say, a degree in physics instead?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:35:37 No.14431646 Report

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>>14431604

Ok

>>14431620

You could. Seen it before with friends who had Physics/Mathematics degrees or a Computer Science minor.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:40:54 No.14431674 Report

Quoted By: >>14431722

>>14431620
yes because at least they know you can succeed at physics. And there is this social dynamics thing that they think you're a more valuable human being if u have a degree.

The industry best practices will be learned the most during your job as a industry SWE, yes. But you can, if you are smart about finding the right resources, learn the issues real life SWEs have beforehand.

You can find junior positions that wont require this pro-knowledge but at least knowing the theory of that pro-knowledge will give you a big advantage so your first job doesnt have to be utter shit.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:57:00 No.14431722 Report

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>>14431674
Good to know. I feel like many people are going into CS, in the same way that they used to for accounting, and that is reflected in the curriculum. It must have been very nice in the early CS days and in prestigious universities.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 22:10:23 No.14431770 Report

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>>14431583
golden advice

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 22:12:19 No.14431776 Report

Quoted By: >>14431896

The dude talking about FAANG represents a low percentage of SWEs. Not all computer science graduates are SWEs. There is more to Computer Science than programming jobs. Try to enjoy your classes and make friends with your professors and colleagues. These people will determine how far you go outside of Computer Science. Networking is very important. Be nice to everyone and never talk down to classmates who don’t understand the current topics. People will pass the class and be in your next class, it is important to treat others kindly. Outside of networking, really enjoying the branch of computer science is important. I recommend reading about the history, famous computer scientists, topics that interest you in technology, and joining a club related to engineering or science at your school. These things can help keep you motivated when things get challenging, or are perhaps boring. Make sure you study well and retain the knowledge to discuss general info and some specifics about most topics you learn. This will ensure you can quickly google and brush up on things you learned in the past. Other than enjoying your major and networking, be kind to yourself when you struggle and give yourself credit when you succeed. Whatever you do, whether you graduate with your degree or a related one, or whether you switch gears entirely, the college experience will help you in many ways you won’t understand now, but will fully realize later.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 22:18:46 No.14431794 Report

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>>14431366
why do whites have such cringe eye colors?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 23:07:14 No.14431896 Report

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>>14431776
The very same thing was said about high school and middle school. That is easy for someone who lived a prime-of-life clubs and everything person to say.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 23:27:06 No.14431934 Report

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>>14431452
>physics is more worthy
can I have some fries with that

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Anonymous Wed 27 Apr 2022 00:26:13 No.14432056 Report

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>>14431582
>. do you know algorithmics (search and sorting algos, which are better for which case?)
first part was good. search and sorting are literally freshman shit though. you should be learning algorithms to a far greater depth at uni unless you went to a codemonkey mill
>- do you know pros and cons of using different data structures? tuples, vs maps/structs/dicts vs lists etc
>- can you truly code in an object oriented way? So fully utilising classes (public and private)
>- can you also code in a procedural way if necessary, what about data-oriented programming? very important to knwo how to do when doing low level programming
>- do you know insutry standard communication protocols? Every createed a SPA? E.g. using react and rest apis wirrten in Go, deployed with docker?
>- do you know pros and cons of different design patterns in programming? Have you used some of them before?
if you spent time on any of this nonsense at uni, yu went to a codemonkey mill. even worse, you pretend like this is difficult knowledge to attain. this is shit that literal highschoolers learn in their free time.

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