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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 17:21:29 2022 No.14388985 View Reply Original Report

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COVID testing question
There's been a lot of criticism of the PCR tests, how the cycles were increased to increase false positives and how they aren't really suited as a diagnostic test for viral diseases.
ARE they suited as a diagnostic test for viral infections? If not, specifically, why not?
And what would be the appropriate tests? Some sort of ELISA or what?

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:02:46 No.14389415 Report

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bump

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:22:43 No.14389483 Report

Quoted By: >>14389516 >>14391435 >>14395559 >>14406779

>>14388985
This was known years ago.

The inventor of the PCR test said it was not effective and if you ran the test enough, anyone or anything is "positive". That inventor is now no more.

President of Tanzania reported the test made fruit test positive for China Flu. That leader is now no more.

Notice a pattern yet?

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 20:32:55 No.14389516 Report

Quoted By: >>14389663 >>14389670 >>14405938

>>14389483
Right, but what are the actual reasons for it being unsuitable?
I'm also wondering because of the building bird flu. They're apparently mass killing chickens after they test positive and I've seen a claim that they're using PCR tests for them.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:14:53 No.14389663 Report

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>>14389516
>They're apparently mass killing chickens after they test positiv
That is to reduce chickens in the market and boost prices on retail food.

Food shortages are part of the "Great Reset" plan. Hungry people are easier to control and coerce.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:15:46 No.14389666 Report

Quoted By: >>14394889 >>14411125

>>14388985
>There's been a lot of criticism of the PCR tests
Sources?

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:17:11 No.14389670 Report

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>>14389516
>Right, but what are the actual reasons for it being unsuitable?
Similar to a titer type test, if it is done enough, it will show a positive, depending on the "threshold levels" that the "scientists/doctors" say. Adjust the threshold, and everyone is sick.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:17:54 No.14389673 Report

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>>14388985
>for like 100 years tests were made with a spit analysis
>suddenly in 2020 science (wo)men found put you have to ve nose raped for an accurate result
And people actually did it.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:44:26 No.14389774 Report

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>>14388985
>If not, specifically, why not?
Because the virus is an artifact of body reaction. That is proven science because the made the same preparations with healthy tissue and get the same outcome. You can get a million dollar if you disprove that.

Further you need primers that prepare your sample to right "virus".

There are people saying that the virus is generated from your body to give information to other units of the species.

If that is true than vaccines against viruses works for very different reasons as the current "accepted" theory says

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Anonymous Tue 12 Apr 2022 22:09:26 No.14389845 Report

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>>14389673
>>suddenly in 2020 science (wo)men found put you have to ve nose raped for an accurate result
China likes fiddling in your butthole for their tests. They are freaks.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 12:18:51 No.14391435 Report

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>>14389483
They assassinated Mullins right before the Plandemic began. They knew he would talk about how they use PCR tests in an erroneous way.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 12:25:59 No.14391447 Report

Quoted By: >>14393262 >>14393266

>>14389663
>>They're apparently mass killing chickens after they test positiv
>That is to reduce chickens in the market and boost prices on retail food.
>Food shortages are part of the "Great Reset" plan. Hungry people are easier to control and coerce.

They're doing the same thing in my country with pigs. Some years ago they introduced vaccines for pigs, ever since then some pigs get violently ill and gov then steps in and kills all the pigs in the farm because, they say, they're all infected with african swine fever. Suspiciously enough, this strange virus appeard in my country only in recent decades, just like pig vaccination.

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Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 23:48:22 No.14393262 Report

Quoted By: >>14393264 >>14394763

>>14391447
If I didn't know better, I'd say that they're trying to set us up for mass starvation.
Are.. they? Why?

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Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 23:49:43 No.14393264 Report

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>>14393262
>If I didn't know better, I'd say that they're trying to set us up for mass starvation.
>Are.. they? Why?

maintain humanity at 500 million people or less.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

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Anonymous Wed 13 Apr 2022 23:51:39 No.14393266 Report

Quoted By: >>14394775

>>14391447
>Suspiciously enough, this strange virus appeard in my country only in recent decades, just like pig vaccination.
the "vaccines" are the virus. genetic testing in the open on our food sources. now they are testing the "vaccines" on humans en masse.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 00:00:03 No.14393277 Report

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>>14393264
Seriously though, the evidence is starting to become.. unsettling. Are we really headed into the main event over the next.. I dunno, 6 months? I guess the fertilizer shortage's impact will come during harvest season. Are they timing that as the crescendo where all the factors converge?
Are we really going to see mass deaths here?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 15:17:01 No.14394763 Report

Quoted By: >>14394868 >>14395439

>>14393262
Kissinger said it best, 'If you control the energy sector you control the countries, if you control the food sector you control the population'. Once food becomes scarce gov can impose any conditions on you if you want to eat.
They've been accelerating the famine agenda since the Plandemic. In Cali they cut the water to the farms. They provoked Russia into war to fuck up with grain and fertilizer supply. The reckless spending on (((fighting Covid))) and now the war
gave them an excuse to ramp up inflation and hence food costs.
Do you know how communist countries used to keep the millions in concentration camps from revolting...starvation, that's one of the reasons why the body count was so high, when the slaves were worked to hard they dropped dead.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 15:24:29 No.14394775 Report

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>>14393266
I know that's what I was getting at. I'm in EE and my parents worked in chemistry during the soviet days. Mom knew the ppl making vaccines and back in the day they used to make them classicaly, no adjuvants or anything. After '89 our country switched to western vaccines and then Down Syndrome and many other diseases appeared. Even mom noticed, she said she had never seen ppl with Down Syndrome before in her life, she was born in the 50s.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 15:28:41 No.14394788 Report

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>>14394775
EE=Eastern Europe

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 16:04:08 No.14394868 Report

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>>14394763
I'd like to add several other related things I've noticed.
In my country there's an NGO whose purpose is to make sure chickens have a better life, one way they propose to do this is to increase chicken living space several times, which would ofc decrease the nr of chickes several times. For some mysterious reason this NGO is given media atrention and has funding.
A few years ago our politicians were proposing we eliminate pesticides because they're toxic. Although it is true that you need to wash your fruit and veggies to make sure there'a no residue on them, it's also true eliminating pesticides will reduce food supply several times over due to pests.
An year ago or someting our gov arranged a deal for us to sell a lot of sheeps to some arab country. An insurance was taken on the ship. The ship sank, the farmers never got the money for the sheep because the goods weren't delivered. I'm conviced our gov sank the ship. This isn't the first time the jews in our gov worked hand in hand with arabs to fuck us. When the Plandemic started they were caught buying medical goods that didn't exist from Saudi Arabia, in other words they were just giving our money to the saudis.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 16:08:57 No.14394889 Report

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>>14389666
Have you been spending too much time ruling over hell to not notice what's been happening on Earth?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 16:12:33 No.14394896 Report

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>>14393277
The gap between excess deaths and the number that were "with covid" (a very permissive, liberal definition) is crazy enough but the fact that it's being completely ignored despite being multiple times larger than the deaths attributed to covid is breathtaking.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 19:22:09 No.14395439 Report

Quoted By: >>14395566 >>14395599 >>14395633

>>14394896
>being ignored
It seems our collective attention is really only a function of that the controlled media decides to shine a light on
>>14394763
If they are leading us down the road to starvation and then total control, do you guys think it's happening in the next few months?
What are you doing to prepare?
It's one thing to have an academic discussion about it, but if this is real, it wouldn't exactly make much sense to just sit around and wait for the catastrophe.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 19:39:14 No.14395473 Report

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>>14388985
you can't test for something that doesn't exist, dr. putin proved it by making the hoax disappear in two days

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:20:54 No.14395559 Report

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>>14388985
>There's been a lot of criticism of the PCR tests, how the cycles were increased to increase false positives and how they aren't really suited as a diagnostic test for viral diseases.
>ARE they suited as a diagnostic test for viral infections? If not, specifically, why not?
>>14389483
>The inventor of the PCR test said it was not effective and if you ran the test enough, anyone or anything is "positive". That inventor is now no more.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:23:06 No.14395566 Report

Quoted By: >>14395624

>>14395439
>If they are leading us down the road to starvation and then total control, do you guys think it's happening in the next few months?
>What are you doing to prepare?
>It's one thing to have an academic discussion about it, but if this is real, it wouldn't exactly make much sense to just sit around and wait for the catastrophe.
Think of what YOU need to do to prepare for any possible scenario, then do it.
Talking about specifics on here only helps "them" prepare better to defeat and enslave you. There are AI bots, and actual spys for the WEF on here and all popular online forums, gathering data on what people are doing to thwart their global plans.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:23:10 No.14395567 Report

Quoted By: >>14395680 >>14411073

It's almost as if they're quite literally attacking the food supply and distribution network. I keep seeing examples of large warehouses going up in flames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSDleZqIWU4

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:32:00 No.14395599 Report

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>>14395439
>If they are leading us down the road to starvation and then total control, do you guys think it's happening in the next few months?
I'd say the next 2-3 years, they want the pop to accept starvation gradually, if they trigger famines suddenly the pop might become violent.
>What are you doing to prepare?
You can only prepare if you live on a farm.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:36:29 No.14395624 Report

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>>14395566
>Talking about specifics on here only helps "them" prepare better to defeat and enslave you. There are AI bots, and actual spys for the WEF on here and all popular online forums, gathering data on what people are doing to thwart their global plans.

I agree but I still think were getting more value out of us having conversations then they are out of seeing us having them.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:40:12 No.14395633 Report

Quoted By: >>14397542

>>14395439
>What are you doing to prepare?
I'm Mormon. Other Mormons will understand this response.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Apr 2022 20:59:08 No.14395680 Report

Quoted By: >>14411067

>>14395567
The (((US))) has thousands of 'weather' satellites that, as readers of conspiracy theories know, are actually energy weapons. They can change the radius of the beam to to make them do anything from killing a single target (masers will give a hear attack or stroke if exposed long enough), set anything on fire, to heating up entire regions for weather manipulation. John Coleman (ex MI5), in one of his books, talks about how the NWO used the energy weapons a few times to slice some icebergs so they can use them as proof of global warming. One can only imagine what other things they've been doing with them.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Apr 2022 14:35:33 No.14397542 Report

Quoted By: >>14397598 >>14397953

>>14395633
>Other Mormons will understand this response.
Can you explain?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Apr 2022 15:13:14 No.14397598 Report

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>>14397542
he thinks the world is ending or some shit.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Apr 2022 17:51:25 No.14397953 Report

Quoted By: >>14398349

>>14397598
>>14397542
One of the central obligations of every Mormon is to be prepared for the SHTF events. It's part of the religion and their churches sell prepping supplies to their members.
>Church members are also encouraged to have a supply of food and water for times of emergency. Latter-day Saints and others can purchase food storage at one of the Church’s 100-plus home storage centers (different than a bishops’ storehouse) in the U.S. and Canada. The Church advises its members to build a supply of food such as wheat, rice and beans that will last a long time. Properly packaged and stored, these items can last 30 years or more.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Apr 2022 21:01:53 No.14398349 Report

Quoted By: >>14399019

>>14397953
Well, that solves the food problem, it doesn't solve the killer drones that the NWO will send after you once SHTF.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Apr 2022 22:31:40 No.14398565 Report

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>>14388985
>ARE they suited as a diagnostic test for viral infections? If not, specifically, why not?
It's trivial for institutional processes to run away on themselves with the help of PCR testing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
>Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t

The covid PCR test guidelines themselves were particularly trash though, see picrel. It's almost as if the covid tests were supposed to incidentally detect something other than SARS-CoV-2.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 02:13:23 No.14399019 Report

Quoted By: >>14399849 >>14399872

>>14398349
>it doesn't solve the killer drones that the NWO will send after you once SHTF.
Too many people for that. not enough resources or money. If they could do that, they would have wiped out the 50,000 Afghan fighters that held off the US military for 20 years.
The system is fucked. It will collapse soon. Oil/natural gas is the only thing keeping humanity at the current population.

Rampant starvation and disease will kill off 90% of people, and keep the population low, same as it did for thousands of years, once they crash it all. The people doing the crashing are mostly old leftists, and don't care if they die in the process, they just have a God-syndrome and think they are "saving the planet" is all.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 11:10:11 No.14399849 Report

Quoted By: >>14400953

>>14399019
>Too many people for that.

They're going to deploy the killer drones after 99% have died from famine and wars, to seek and destroy the hermits.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 11:26:56 No.14399872 Report

Quoted By: >>14399900

>>14399019
>If they could do that, they would have wiped out the 50,000 Afghan fighters that held off the US military for 20 years.
Imagine being so profoundy normalgrized that you think meme wars like that have any purpose except to go on forever, generating profits for the warmongers. The world must be one hell of a fever dream to the normie who thinks the US military just couldn't defeat 50,000 Afghan fighters over 20 years.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 11:47:22 No.14399900 Report

Quoted By: >>14399915 >>14399918

>>14399872
Finally someone that undrestands.
Our rulers have much more complicated agendas than defeat X country/group. Ever since Cabal has taken over the planet, wars are fought to exhaust both sides of their young and their resources, until nothing is left of them, at which point, the weakened pop will much more easily accept totalitarian measures. It follows that wars are designed not to be won, for any victory would bring about the end of the war to quickly.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 11:56:01 No.14399915 Report

Quoted By: >>14399918 >>14403444 >>14411064

>>14399900
The Plandemic was designed just like that, kill the young (the mRNA poison affected young hearts especialy), deplete money/resources (endless expensive tests, economic shutdown, gov spending on all sorts of crazy measures that only did harm).
Same with Ukraine war, kill the young (send them to war, keep civilians in front of advancing russian army), deplete money/resources (military spending increased to insane levels, energy prices exploded, food shortage).
There are even books written about this old Cabal tactic, Gen Smidly Butler - War is a Racket, Knuth - The Empire of the City, Anthony Sutton's Walstreet trilogy, Carol Quigley - Tragedy and Hope.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 11:57:49 No.14399918 Report

Quoted By: >>14403358

>>14399900
>>14399915
Based and well-read schizo.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Apr 2022 20:03:58 No.14400953 Report

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>>14399849
They already deployed surveillance drones and robots in China, to police the pop, just look at the recent Shanghai lockdowns.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Apr 2022 15:48:47 No.14403358 Report

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>>14399918
Thanks, hopefully someone will at least read Antony Suttin's books at least.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Apr 2022 16:28:05 No.14403444 Report

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>>14399915
meds

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Anonymous Sun 17 Apr 2022 21:35:12 No.14404344 Report

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>>14403444
I take it you have read the books and are capable of articulating criticism against them. Go ahead, I'm listening...

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Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 12:07:48 No.14405938 Report

Quoted By: >>14406269

>>14389516
https://brownstone.org/articles/pcr-tests-and-the-rise-of-disease-panic/

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Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 15:02:02 No.14406269 Report

Quoted By: >>14407607

>>14405938
It's amazing most imbecils in the medical prof don't know who Mullis is or his stance against PCR tests. It just shows you that most medical prof are just charlatans.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 18:30:46 No.14406779 Report

Quoted By: >>14407266 >>14411141

>>14389483
That's false because the inventor had no say in the creation of RT-PCR, which is the gold standard for COVID.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 21:27:28 No.14407266 Report

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>>14406779
The RT-PCR is just a PCR test with a name change, your attempt to pass it as a diff tech than a PCR test is pathetic and disgusting and the only reason you and others are doing it is because you know the inventor of the PCR exposed the charlatans who used the PCR test to manufacture viruses were none existed, like the AIDS crisis, where (((Fauci))) was also leading the charge.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Apr 2022 23:18:17 No.14407607 Report

Quoted By: >>14409469 >>14411047

>>14406269
>It just shows you that most medical prof are just charlatans.
The emperor with no closes problem. They lied to all, to the public, to themselves vaxxed kids and destroyed life's, businesses and the whole civil community. Set the whole mankind to unknown risks and try to pretend the know what they do. Despite the fact that they always have to change what they said two weeks ago. They are at the endpoint if any morality, Inhumans, blatant liers triing to hold a reputation that has gone with the wind.

Mene mene tekel u-parsin

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 15:47:13 No.14409469 Report

Quoted By: >>14411237

>>14407607
>Despite the fact that they always have to change what they said two weeks ago.

They did this so many times during the Plandemic it's amazing more ppl haven't noticed.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:26:07 No.14411047 Report

Quoted By: >>14411057

>>14407607
>The emperor with no closes problem. They lied to all, to the public, to themselves vaxxed kids and destroyed life's, businesses and the whole civil community.
Surprised the world is not at pitchforks and tribunals yet.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:29:42 No.14411054 Report

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Can you explain this /sci/? How can masks block oxygen but let through viruses?

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:30:41 No.14411057 Report

Quoted By: >>14411099

>>14411047
Me too.
Whenever you talk to people though about anything remotely revolutionary they look at you strange though.
We could be literally run by cannibal vampire space elves and people would still ignore it.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:32:49 No.14411064 Report

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>>14399915
It's almost like China's power is so strong that countries will literally kill themselves from their fuckery.
Interesting.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:34:06 No.14411067 Report

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>>14395680
I wonder which ISO standard covers covert laser weapons and satellites.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:36:20 No.14411073 Report

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>>14395567
Don't need to burn factories when you just usurp and control the supply chain through monetary finance practices.

It's funny how disinfo is always lukewarm to reality.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:43:40 No.14411099 Report

Quoted By: >>14411144

>>14411057
When people get hungry, then they get violent. History has shown this over and over again. Americans are still too fat to be revolutionaries.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:54:09 No.14411125 Report

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>>14389666
>SOURCE?
lmao jesus fucking christ, it's your job to provide sources that they work as diagnostics. elsavir still uses extremely uncertain language regarding their accuracy.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:58:17 No.14411141 Report

Quoted By: >>14412518

>>14406779
Source? Do you have a source on that claim?

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Anonymous Tue 19 Apr 2022 23:59:28 No.14411144 Report

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>>14411099
I've been on a sandwich diet for 2 months now and I'm skinnier than when I was a teen.
I'm also quite angry, so maybe you're right.

Pic related, it's what happens when cows get hungry and scared.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 00:27:39 No.14411237 Report

Quoted By: >>14411270

>>14409469
>They did this so many times during the Plandemic it's amazing more ppl haven't noticed.
They have no needs. It's a question of truth seeking and normal people don't care about it. They will live their lives and always will obey because it has no meaning to do otherwise. Why should I bother them in that?

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 00:39:00 No.14411270 Report

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>>14411237
>Why should I bother them in that?
because it's being weaponized against you. maybe you were lucky enough to make it through the scamdemic mostly unscathed, but notice the prices of housing, food, gasoline. just wait for the next big NPC circus.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Apr 2022 11:11:38 No.14412518 Report

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>>14411141
It doesn't matter if Mullis had any say in the RT-PCR because it's just a rebrand of the PCR Mullis invented.

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