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Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 16:02:30 2022 No.14376037 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14376040 >>14376050 >>14376059 >>14376239 >>14376746 >>14377012 >>14379978

>computers will never be able to do commonsense reas-
Scratch that one, I guess we better start moving those goal posts right about now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:03:05 No.14376040 Report

Quoted By: >>14376047

>>14376037
>>computers will never be able to do commonsense reas-
Nobody has ever said that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:05:00 No.14376047 Report

Quoted By: >>14376975

>>14376040
it is written

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:05:23 No.14376050 Report

Quoted By: >>14376675 >>14376801

>>14376037
>the absolute state of GPT-3

that sounds like what I would write on an exam question I didn't know the answer to just to bullshit for some points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:07:28 No.14376059 Report

Quoted By: >>14376106 >>14376131 >>14379783

>>14376037
Whose imaginary goalpost are you deboonking, soichugger? Your toy can't pass a Turing test, and no one knows how to make one that does, so that one still stands, and will stand for the foreseeable future because NNs are a dead end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:09:37 No.14376067 Report

Quoted By: >>14376107

Uhm, sweety, actually in that cartoon Leonardo holds pizza in his hands more often than katana, so the correct answer is "Italy". Try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:20:12 No.14376106 Report

Quoted By: >>14376113

>>14376059
>Whose imaginary goalpost
The name of the fallacy you're looking for is "strawman argument", pseud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:20:32 No.14376107 Report

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>>14376067
You know what's kinda funny? If the bot had said "pizza", you'd call it out on its unnatural answer, since "common sense" suggests pizza-holding wouldn't be the most memorable aspect of a character to a child, but when a person gives this shitty answer, it seems somehow more "human" for its "out of the box" thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:22:16 No.14376113 Report

Quoted By: >>14376122

>>14376106
>sharting out references to reddit fallacies
>telling others what reddit fallacies they were supposedly looking for
>calling someone else a pseud while you're at it
Just can't make this shit up. The board is infested by certified, clinical nonhumans. Anyway, point still stands: whose goalpost are you deboonking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:23:48 No.14376122 Report

Quoted By: >>14376143

>>14376113
The first time I ever read this thing about goalposts was last year and then it was only ever said by the leftypol "trolls". Strawman has always been said on 4chan. If any of these are reddit, it's certainly the goalposts one.
>The board is infested by certified, clinical nonhumans.
Oh it's you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:26:36 No.14376131 Report

Quoted By: >>14376150

>>14376059
>Your toy can't pass a Turing test
Neither can you, what does this imply?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:30:17 No.14376143 Report

Quoted By: >>14376153

>>14376122
I was echoing OP's own terminology, you actual mouth breather. Personally, I specifically avoid referencing any of these putrid rational skeptoid terms at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:31:44 No.14376150 Report

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>>14376131
You sound kinda asshurt, but my point still stands: the only widely accepted goalpost for chatbots I know of is the Turing test, and this toy can't pass it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:31:51 No.14376153 Report

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>>14376143
Damn I am a fucking retard kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 16:57:31 No.14376239 Report

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>>14376037
Japan is not a country, it is a nation.
True AGI will answer everything in platitudes, stereotypes, and koans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 19:33:07 No.14376675 Report

Quoted By: >>14376720

>>14376050
>that sounds like what I would write on an exam question I didn't know the answer to just to bullshit for some points.

I think that's why its impressive. It's one thing to connect these to an encyclopedia where it can just look up the answer, it's another to bullshit a guess based off little information.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 19:43:38 No.14376720 Report

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>>14376675
There's nothing impressive about it. It goes purely by associations, without the more sophisticated model's feigned reasoning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 19:48:11 No.14376738 Report

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Why can't we like this technology but also not think that it's AGI?
We don't need AGI you weirdos. There's no point to it. We just need specialized neural nets that can help automate some tasks.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 19:50:08 No.14376746 Report

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>>14376037

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Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 20:07:48 No.14376801 Report

Quoted By: >>14376816

>>14376050
Shows it knows how to manipulate these kinds of statements. The other thing looks like some semantic web monstrocity that will never generalize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 20:12:13 No.14376816 Report

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>>14376801
nevermind kek there is no semantic web

this is an actual new model

Impressive.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 20:41:46 No.14376932 Report

Quoted By: >>14376942 >>14378164 >>14379819

>computers will never be able to understand hum-
Scratch that one, I guess we better start moving those goal posts right about now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 20:44:40 No.14376942 Report

Quoted By: >>14377008

>>14376932
They don't understand humor. Nothing in your pic suggests that they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 20:56:35 No.14376975 Report

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>>14376047
Only Link can defeat Ganon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 21:11:38 No.14377008 Report

Quoted By: >>14377015

>>14376942
They already understand better than you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 21:11:51 No.14377012 Report

Quoted By: >>14377358

>>14376037
AI still can't draw a full-body human in arbitrary positions wearing arbitrary clothes.
AI still can't write about a person disrobing himself and then re-wearing the same clothes.

You are falling for cherrypicking.
Also note how the input doesn't have a negative.

Ask the AI the following "Luke is not very rich. Is Luke very rich?" and see what happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 21:13:59 No.14377015 Report

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>>14377008
Why can't you provide any actual evidence of that, then? Call me back when the AI makes an original joke that's actually funny, or at least explains a completely novel joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 23:34:35 No.14377358 Report

Quoted By: >>14380544

>>14377012
>AI still can't draw a full-body human in arbitrary positions wearing arbitrary clothes.
yes it can
the new google one does that easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 07:49:49 No.14378164 Report

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>>14376932
sneed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 19:02:54 No.14379783 Report

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>>14376059
>Your toy can't pass a Turing test
It can't pass a Turing test for males. It can very well pass a Turing test for females. But then again any bot occasionally replying "ok" or "no" with a long delay would pass it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 19:12:09 No.14379819 Report

Quoted By: >>14379862 >>14379871

>>14376932
Why are we supposed to interpret this inane bullshit as "humor"? It's literally just a short explanation on what is the difference between a zebra and an umbrella. Not every paragraph starting with "What is the difference between ..." has to be a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 19:18:28 No.14379862 Report

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>>14379819
But if the objects being compared are so different I'd also guess it's a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 19:20:51 No.14379871 Report

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>>14379819
>Not every paragraph starting with "What is the difference between ..." has to be a joke.
However, any statement beginning with "what is the difference between a zebra and an umbrella" is almost certainly a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 19:46:42 No.14379978 Report

Quoted By: >>14380094

>>14376037
This is just applying logic which is basically all computers are capable of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 20:11:53 No.14380094 Report

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>>14379978
Computers have never been able to apply logic until now, midwit. They execute precisy pre-defined computation. This kind of independent, natural language-based reasoning is entirely new and something you would have insisted is impossible until presented with evidence. To get this kind of model that can predict patterns in something as ambiguous and inconsistent as language (that includes "formal" language used in "logic") you need an immense amount of training data.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 22:13:12 No.14380544 Report

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>>14377358
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Apr 2022 22:18:45 No.14380558 Report

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Can we see all of the experiments they did with other inputs before getting these results?

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