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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 05:25:08 2022 No.14368379 View Reply Original Report

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Why are we still unable to create fully functioning artificial organs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 05:25:52 No.14368380 Report

Quoted By: >>14368483 >>14370394

we can its just reserved for the billionaire class

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 05:27:18 No.14368383 Report

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>>14368379
Because biology is fucking nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 05:30:55 No.14368386 Report

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>>14368379
>why are we STILL unable to build star trek bullshit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 06:05:53 No.14368415 Report

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We can, but not all of them. Yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 07:26:47 No.14368480 Report

Quoted By: >>14368602

>>14368379
That money needs to go to feeding third world 50IQ negroids and transgender surgeries first

El Arcón

El Arcón Wed 06 Apr 2022 07:29:39 No.14368483 Report

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>>14368380
This person is talking about farming clone slaves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 08:14:13 No.14368548 Report

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>>14368379
There are organs and orgars. A pump-like heart is easy, a brain or anything related to nerves is beyond this century's capabilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 08:31:11 No.14368572 Report

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>>14368379
because we still don't understand shit about what each organ exactly does

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 08:52:40 No.14368590 Report

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>>14368548
obviosuly
but we still can't properly replicate even simple organs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 09:02:08 No.14368597 Report

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>>14368590
>even “simple” organs
Lol
> I heard the Prophet (?) saying, "Allah said, 'Who are most unjust than those who try to create something like My creation? I challenge them to create even a smallest ant, a wheat grain or a barley grain.' "

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 09:04:29 No.14368602 Report

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>>14368480
Hello amerishit. You can’t go to Mars because of niggers. You can’t go to Mars because the moon landings were faked and nobody will ever go beyond LEO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:53:01 No.14369243 Report

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>>14368379
What have you tried?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 21:40:45 No.14370069 Report

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>>14368379
>Self repairing
>Self perpetuating
>Capable of autonomous work
>Incorporated into a greater and deeply complex organic system
>Influenced by almost every chemical, movement and temperature change
>Hooked up to your fucking brain somehow
>Runs off of whatever you are last
Shits complicated nigga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 21:42:29 No.14370074 Report

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>>14368379
Because organs are complex and we understand not all that much about them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 21:42:44 No.14370076 Report

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>>14368379
Cause organs arent fully understood and are also super small bioreactors we cannot even reproduce in a lab...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 22:19:57 No.14370171 Report

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>>14368379
>create
as in growing or as in 3D printing ?
the first is just a tiny bit more difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 22:48:20 No.14370274 Report

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>>14368379
The underlying philosophical framework that guided science for centuries was derailed and destroyed in modern times. We have to experience the collapse of civilization and its recreation before we get stuff like artificial organs, meaningful A.I., etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 23:01:27 No.14370312 Report

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>>14368379
What do you mean "still"? The way you phrase your question implies that you for some reason think that this field is on the easier side of the natural sciences.
Biology is the highest form of matter. There is no higher form in the space of combinations of atoms/molecules. The LAST thing we're going to really be able to control and build are biological machines. The level of complexity of these systems is simply far greater than any other molecular system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 23:18:34 No.14370378 Report

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>>14368602
He can't go to Mars because his government has the right to regulate who is allowed to work on going to Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 23:23:45 No.14370394 Report

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>>14368379
HaShem doesn't want it

>>14368380
Billionaires can't hold their own fart, they control as much as you and I do (i.e. nothing)

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 07:22:41 No.14371369 Report

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>Scientists have created a new artificial organ!
>It's actually just clumps of live cells from a real organ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 07:35:15 No.14371385 Report

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>>14368379
I work in the tissue engineering field.

Like >>14371369
said, any news of "a new artificial organ" are I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE tier bullshit. >>14370069
put it quite well, manufacturing a functioning artificial organ is extremely complicated, moreover, it would be very expensive to develop it into an approved treatment and the final payoff for any investor would be very low. Why? Because it will always be much cheaper to kidnap and harvest a fine kidney or liver from some poor negro kid in a third world country.

All we have right now is artificial blood vessels, urethras or cosmetic implants (e.g. ear), I believe there is also artificial bone being used as treatment in the clinic. Everything else is not financially viable.

>>14370274
Believe me, it's not that the top notch scientists have no idea how to create an organ. We have the technology to create any type of cell or tissue. It has much more to do with money.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 07:40:58 No.14371393 Report

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I'm not a doctor or anything, but when you consider how difficult it is to successfully transplant donor organs why would artificial organs be any easier? Obviously the 'context' is important, in the same way that stemcells become the cell relevant to their context, the conglomeration of cells that make a particular organ, or even part of an organ, do the same. That includes the right nutrients, blood supply, etc. etc. If you want to do it right, you basically need to build another human.
It's sort of like the nave in a church, or the lost-wax method. In the nave of the church they first create a wooden scaffolding and build the ceiling over it, not unlike the a ship, the scaffolding gets removed but the nave still holds.
A lot of engineering is thinking about how you build the thing, not just the finished thing.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 07:54:09 No.14371415 Report

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>>14371385
What artificial organs do you think would be the most useful for life-extension?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 07:59:52 No.14371420 Report

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>>14371415
heart diseases are still some of the leading causes of death, so heart transplants would be most beneficial. Engineered heart valves/stents are being used in the clinic nowadays AFAIK.

Then again, most of us will have some form of dementia by the time we're 80, and there's nothing tissue engineering can do about that. Once you're a vegetable, life extension is actually a hindrance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 22:25:55 No.14373350 Report

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>>14368379
Give it a few more decades, artificial organs are still in early development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 22:45:30 No.14373404 Report

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>>14368379
If you've looked at hair follicle cloning, it's incredible hard, it's not even possible to create one now, it always ends up failing at one stage or another, now think how hard it would be to clone something even more complex like a heart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 05:10:47 No.14374459 Report

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>>14371420
I meant to ask for artificial organs that aren't really common or available yet. Artificial hearts have been around for a while.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 09:44:24 No.14374847 Report

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>>14373404
what about a mechanical one
the immune system couldn't reject it like a donated one and external ones are already used for operations

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 09:53:27 No.14374865 Report

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>>14368379
Because all the best minds are working on making our natural organs biologically immortal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 09:57:13 No.14374872 Report

Quoted By: >>14374908

>>14374847
How does it operate? Is there some eternal battery? It seems to be needing hell of a lot of energy to pump all that blood. Did they manage to charge it the same way our natural heart is energized? It's like some extraterrastrial level tech, as if it's a hoax or something. In other words, incredible.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 10:14:02 No.14374908 Report

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>>14374872
just drag a tube through the neck area like those kidney operations and place an USB charger at the end

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Apr 2022 12:26:09 No.14375309 Report

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>>14370074
Well this guys a retard.

Organ functions are well understood. Some are just too complex. The kidney is basically a filter that also spits out hormones. That is probably replicable mechanically at some point. The liver does all kinds of stuff that would be very difficult to replicate.

Mechanical organs is the wrong direction. Much easier to clone your organs and replace.

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