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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 23:47:41 2022 No.14367716 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14367753 >>14367762 >>14367833 >>14367837 >>14368525 >>14369260 >>14369408 >>14369502

>The 369 million dollar NOAA-19 weather satellite after falling over

How many lives can be saved with 369 million dollar?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 23:59:46 No.14367746 Report

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how the fuck do you just *drop* a $370M satellite?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 00:04:15 No.14367753 Report

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>>14367716
kek who dropped it? was it nasa or some contractor? i hope it was some contractor whos entire business is going to evaporate. nasa probably wouldn't fire the pink haired turbo troons responsible if it were their own fault.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 00:10:39 No.14367762 Report

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>>14367716

>i told you to tighten those bolts you knuckleheads.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 00:31:54 No.14367822 Report

Quoted By: >>14368150 >>14368542 >>14368709 >>14370913

>>14367746
>While the turn-over cart used during the procedure was in storage, a technician removed twenty-four bolts securing an adapter plate to it without documenting the action. The team subsequently using the cart to turn the satellite failed to check the bolts, as specified in the procedure, before attempting to move the satellite.
there you go

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 00:34:25 No.14367833 Report

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>>14367716
Okay but what about that small ass machine makes it worth 369 million to begin with

It looks like a pile of junk from the 50s if we’re being honest

Is it the materials the machine was made out of?
Was most of the cost just in launching the satellite?
Was the cost just in building past models up until the release got made if so that’s perfectly reasonable

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 00:36:20 No.14367837 Report

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>>14367716
>How many lives can be saved with 369 million dollar?
Less than can be saved by flood warnings coming a day earlier thanks to weather satellites.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 01:02:38 No.14367912 Report

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>>14367833
>a pile of junk from the 50s
Design in space related stuff didn't evolve. imo they just don't care because they don't put ads on it.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 01:17:56 No.14367950 Report

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>>14367912
Seriously every space organization beyond the ones in China seriously hasn’t stopped using ussr models? After all that with ion thrusters, better understandings of particle and relativity physics. Breakthroughs and discoveries in aerodynamics were still in 50s era space tech?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:47:58 No.14368150 Report

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>>14367822
>remove all the shit keeping the thing from falling over
>don't tell anyone
sounds like textbook disgruntled employee

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 05:11:52 No.14368359 Report

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>$135M to fix it
Hey, at least they made it well again.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 07:59:33 No.14368525 Report

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>>14367716
>How many lives can be saved with 369 million dollar?
who cares?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 08:08:34 No.14368542 Report

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>>14367822
Lmao

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 10:37:23 No.14368709 Report

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>>14367822
> The team subsequently using the cart to turn the satellite failed to check the bolts, as specified in the procedure, before attempting to move the satellite.
People are lazy and will cut corners when they think they can get away with it. They probably did that check dozens of times, never found anything wrong, so got sloppy with doing it. While wrong, it's an understandable part of human nature that has to be adjusted for.
>While the turn-over cart used during the procedure was in storage, a technician removed twenty-four bolts securing an adapter plate to it without documenting the action.
Not documenting it might have been laziness, or maybe due to a distraction of some kind. What isn't explained is why did the tech remove the bolts securing the adapter plate? Does it warp the plate to have the bolts in place during storage? Was the soda machine in the break room leaning a bit and he pulled the bolts so one of them could prop up one of the legs of the soda machine? Why the bolts were removed seems to be an important part that needs explaining.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 11:00:43 No.14368728 Report

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>>14368709
You can assume it's intended part of some procedure, if it wasn't it would be framed as some kind of sabotage instead of undocumented maintenance.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 16:04:26 No.14369260 Report

Quoted By: >>14369285 >>14369372 >>14369492 >>14369798

>>14367716
How is it so fragile when its expected to survive in space? Serious question, I imagine some sensors are hyper sensitive obviously but this looks like you average room temp. warehouse.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 16:19:02 No.14369285 Report

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>>14369260
The typical dangers in space are different than those on the surface of the Earth. Heck, the dangers of Earth orbit are different than those of deep space. Even different Earth orbits have different dangers. It is designed to be able to ameliorate most of the dangers of the orbit in which it will operate and simply accept the risk for those dangers that aren't economically or even physically possible to guard against.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 17:07:41 No.14369369 Report

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>>14368150
no it was just two people being complacent

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 17:08:55 No.14369372 Report

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>>14369260
The shock and vibration of thousands of pounds hitting a concrete floor like that don't mix well with fancy space rated doodads. In addition to whatever was outright flattened and broke on the bottom side, everything else could have stuff like fractures in pcb traces etc. and need to be recertified.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 17:12:53 No.14369382 Report

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>>14367833
>Okay but what about that small ass machine makes it worth 369 million to begin with

Lets say your job is making pizzas.
I hire you to make 100 pizzas, it takes you all day.
After you present me the pizza, I say "what, 1000 dollars for all that pizza?!?! The flour, cheese, and sauce for all that pizza is only like 100 bucks at best!"

I wrote this example so a brainless nigger like you can understand. The cost of building complicated systems will also include the salaries of the people involved, because their time and expertise are not free.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 17:27:43 No.14369408 Report

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>>14367716
Is that Reflect-A-Gold tape?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 17:57:42 No.14369492 Report

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>>14369260
>drop phone on sidewalk, it breaks
>"how is phone so fragile when it's expected to live in my pocket?"

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 18:03:25 No.14369502 Report

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>>14367716

Jake... you had one Job!
One thing... design a stand for the satellite
We are taking this out of your overtime pay

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 18:10:49 No.14369514 Report

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>>14369372
>>14369285
thanks

>>14369492
fair

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 20:13:56 No.14369798 Report

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>>14369260
>How is it so fragile when its expected to survive in space? Serious question

Structures for space are extremely lightweight. Aside from surviving the launch, normal operation will have almost zero static loading and some very light dynamic loads from motor operations.

The structure has to fold up and be packed away to fit it in a rocket, this configuration also serves to add rigidity for launch loads. Unfolded it will be a lot less stable.

Imagine the force you feel when you fall 6ft and land dead flat on a hard surface, it's pretty brutal. A 60ft satellite will feel it much worse.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 02:13:18 No.14370874 Report

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Ok Nasa next time tell your diversity hire to use Hi Stress bolts and not something from the hardware shop.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 02:25:31 No.14370901 Report

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>>14369382
Not to mention economies of scale. If I create something for someone that is one of a kind be it an art work or a piece of technology, serious time, planning and manpower has to go into it. If its mass produced poor quality junk then its cheap.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 02:30:19 No.14370913 Report

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>>14367822
>it was the workers fault for removing the bolts
>no its was the fault of the two workers that didnt follow protocol
>no no it was the workers that wrote the protocol that failed
>nooo what do you need 360M $ for

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