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Memorization

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 21:48:36 2022 No.14367500 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14367512 >>14367519 >>14367531 >>14367535 >>14367546 >>14368425 >>14369165 >>14369177 >>14371053

How much memorization should I be doing in a Mathematics program? My memory is pretty good, but I don't think I can master all 34 subjects without mnemonic devices.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:52:00 No.14367507 Report

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Have you considered using the concepts you learn?

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:53:49 No.14367512 Report

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>>14367500
>How much memorization should I be doing in a Mathematics program?
Very unimportant. You need to gain relevant intuition about the subjects you study, not memorize pages upon pages of "facts".

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:55:04 No.14367514 Report

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Start small, repetition and give time
Thats all i have kthxbye

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:57:05 No.14367517 Report

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>>14367507
Note: "Using" doesn't mean practical use. You use the concepts you learn to answer questions that occur to you about the topic you're studying.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:58:00 No.14367519 Report

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>>14367500
>How much memorization should I be doing in a Mathematics program?
OP is the type of NPC that fills universities without actually contributing anything to the field.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:01:39 No.14367529 Report

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>>14367519
>OP is the type of NPC

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:03:32 No.14367531 Report

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>>14367500
$test$

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:06:05 No.14367535 Report

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>>14367500
Formulas need to memorized. Not only memorized, but practiced 1000 exercises times for each formula.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:12:05 No.14367546 Report

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>>14367500
memorize the absolute bare minimum

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:16:47 No.14367558 Report

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>>14367517
>doesn't mean practical use
the avoidance of this denies one an exercise in creativity, causing them not to play with or challenge the idea.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 00:44:05 No.14367856 Report

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:44:31 No.14368140 Report

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>>14367519
>monkey with a typewriter
>>14367529
>frogposter
Pavlovian

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 03:38:36 No.14368216 Report

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>>14367558
I should have put in a "necessarily."
There's nothing wrong with practical use.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 06:18:01 No.14368425 Report

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>>14367500
Memorization doesn't work.
For fundamentals the (Linear algebra, calculus, complex analysis, finite groups etc) the best way is to just grind problems, like muscle-memory rather than mental memory.
For mode advanced stuff (also applies to physics etc) there comes a drought of grind-able problems, since fewer and fewer things are solvable in closed form etc, so you need to focus on conceptual understanding..

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 12:11:37 No.14368804 Report

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>>14367535
Sorry you're a brainlet who can't understand the concept without excessive repetition

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 12:16:57 No.14368808 Report

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>>14368425
Worthless talentless trash.

Memory is required for definitions and axioms which are apriori not a thing of intuition since you have to know them, what is derived however is a different topic.
I will kill you worthless trash

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 12:21:09 No.14368816 Report

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Definitions are to be remembered

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 12:33:08 No.14368827 Report

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>>14367519
i agree with this, not only that they not capable of contributing they collapse our academies and generally our civilization

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 13:41:00 No.14368937 Report

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>>14368808
Dunning Kruger. Definitions and axioms aren't derived, but they still have motivation and justification for being what they are. If you don't know the epsilon-delta definition of continuity you should be able to re-derive it just from the examples of continuous functions you know. If you don't know what the exact definition of a group is, you can look at examples of objects you know ought to be groups, and then see what they have in common. Memorizing definitions etc is something you very rarely have to do. After you've done a few proofs with them it becomes obvious and intuitive why they are the way they are, and then later on, if you forget the exact definition, you can usually re-derive it from your intuitive understanding.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 14:49:28 No.14369114 Report

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>>14368937
>you should be able to re-derive it just from the examples of continuous functions you know.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:02:41 No.14369139 Report

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>>14368937
Worthless talentless non genius trash.

Please refer to >>14369090

Define a definition which doesn't include a map that gives an intuitive understanding behind it.

Now define an "abstract definition" to be a DEFINITION such that there is a mapping.

Such as the "Algebraic Structure", it is a definition however it has a map or a function that helps us understand what it gives as, that is the definition with meaning behind it given by the domain of the map.

Worthless trash I will kill you undergraduate scum

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:05:19 No.14369147 Report

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>>14368937
Hello kid, it's me who called you worthless.

About epsilon-delta that you mentioned (lol you're totally an undergrad stupid child), it is a definition, it's name alone has no mapping to help me understand it so it must be memorized.

However the definition itself includes things that are intuitive or should be understood.

You mixing up your definitions here.
Please complete you calculus course and please excel in all related to mathematical logic before arguing with me.

I will kill you worthless! Go study

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:07:42 No.14369155 Report

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>>14368937
Deriving a definition from examples is not something I need.
You are a worthless student who does that, you do you, fine, maybe it helps you but definitions as they are should be remembered.

You will understand what I mean when you gather too many concepts and definitions in your head, otherwise you would've already known what I'm talking about.

You memorize axioms stupid children.
Btw not all definitions are axioms, depends on the theory you are working in

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:09:06 No.14369156 Report

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>>14368937
Your last statement is the only think that makes me happy for you, but I still want to kill you worthless!

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:12:46 No.14369165 Report

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>>14367500
About a day of memorization before exams. That should be about it. Math doesn't require much memorization, but you do need to be quick on your feet on exams. Most exams I've taken I could get 100% on given enough time, but you are put on a time limit which does force you to memorize relevant theorems, derivations, formula etc.

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:19:15 No.14369177 Report

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>>14367500
It's about being able to rationally come up with algorithms to navigate reality.
Formally defining those algorithms is relative.
It's about understanding what "goes without saying" actually means.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Apr 2022 03:38:26 No.14371053 Report

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>>14367500
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