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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 21:57:07 2022 No.14364851 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14364863 >>14366924 >>14366968 >>14366979 >>14367184 >>14367448

Vitamin B12 has a cobalt atom

how fucking random is that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Apr 2022 22:03:27 No.14364863 Report

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>>14364851

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 18:06:14 No.14366924 Report

Quoted By: >>14367380 >>14368011 >>14368103

>>14364851
>B12
>cobalt atom
>cobalamin
What's really random is how there's a fairly common genetic condition that interferes with your body's folate cycle including B12 that's exacerbated by the particular synthetic form of folate many governments started adding to all flour around the year 2000.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 18:21:56 No.14366968 Report

Quoted By: >>14367121 >>14367320 >>14367385 >>14369028

>>14364851
Im actually interested about B12 because i dropped red meat 10years ago, chicken 9years ago and fish 1 year ago
Is it actually a necessity and can i get it somewhere specific, i have no idea..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 18:24:56 No.14366979 Report

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>>14364851
yes, that is why it is also known as COBALamine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 18:31:32 No.14366997 Report

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordination_complex
this is a starter, there's probably hundreds of books on this topic and even then you're barely scraping the surface of what is going on and/or possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 19:16:10 No.14367121 Report

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>>14366968
>i dropped red meat 10years ago
big mistake, I would reconsider

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 19:37:06 No.14367184 Report

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>>14364851
your body needs molybdenum, selenium, boron and possibly other rare and niche elements to survive. if you look at all life, pretty much all elements found naturally on earth including possibly lead, mercury, thorium, gold, etc are required or used in some way by life.
biochemistry and chemistry in general are insanely complex and large, too bad majoring in them fucking sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 20:38:26 No.14367320 Report

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>>14366968
To the best of my knowledge you need to eat some meat sadly, that is why I am a pescetarian not just a lacto ovo vegetarian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:04:26 No.14367380 Report

Quoted By: >>14368007

>>14366924
>What's really random is how there's a fairly common genetic condition that interferes with your body's folate cycle including B12 that's exacerbated by the particular synthetic form of folate many governments started adding to all flour around the year 2000.

How do you ensure proper B12 and folate uptake in cases like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:06:03 No.14367385 Report

Quoted By: >>14367477 >>14367516

>>14366968
>Is it actually a necessity

B12 deficiency causes brain damage

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:28:44 No.14367448 Report

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>>14364851
not that random.. it just took a couple billion years for nature to figure out the general idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:41:09 No.14367477 Report

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>>14367121
I puke when if i eat meat nowdays
>>14367320
I dont know what that means, i still eat stuff like cheese and such
>>14367385
Could be

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 21:55:50 No.14367516 Report

Quoted By: >>14367544

>>14367385
Would B12 actually fail to work if even one atom was wrong in the molecule? Such a complex structure and yet it's necessary for life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:11:10 No.14367544 Report

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>>14367516
>Would B12 actually fail to work if even one atom was wrong in the molecule?
yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 22:20:34 No.14367569 Report

Quoted By: >>14367674

From wiki:
Vitamin B12 deficiency, also known as hypovitaminosis B12, or cobalamin deficiency, is the medical condition in which the blood and tissue have a lower than normal level of vitamin B12.[5] Symptoms may develop slowly and worsen over time. In mild deficiency, a person may feel tired and have anemia,

Its fucking funny since i used to have anemia before i quit meat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 23:18:15 No.14367674 Report

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>>14367569

>too little X can cause Y
>my Y stopped after I stopped eating X
>X does not work guys!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 01:36:56 No.14368007 Report

Quoted By: >>14368023

>>14367380
sublinguals or intramuscular or subcutaneous injections

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 01:38:16 No.14368011 Report

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>>14366924
pernicious anemia. does mental illness run in your family? well look into sublingual vitamin b12 and b9 supplementation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 01:43:38 No.14368023 Report

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>>14368007
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C43H9R8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 01:53:16 No.14368038 Report

Quoted By: >>14368108 >>14368589

Isn't B12 the one that gets fucked up by alcoholism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:27:44 No.14368103 Report

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>>14366924
Fun times. I was actually looking into this pretty heavily again earlier because I've got the genetic variant. This can straight up fuck you up because of the direct relation to homocysteine. If what you say about the folate is true, might explain the low testosterone epidemic in men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:28:45 No.14368108 Report

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>>14368038
It's thiamine that gets wrecked with alcohol abuse and eating disorders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:33:17 No.14368115 Report

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>>14368108
Great, got both kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:45:01 No.14368141 Report

Quoted By: >>14368145

>>14368115
Ehh, Korsakoffs will destroy you.
Are you not on prescription supplements for that? You can take something like the bioavailable 6(S)-L-Methyltetrahydrofolate over the counter for folic acid. Have to take that with b12 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 02:46:35 No.14368145 Report

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>>14368141
No, I'm on librium and naltrexone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 08:51:27 No.14368589 Report

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>>14368038
Nope, B12 gets fucked by nitrous use tho, which leads to decreased myelin production and impaired DNA synthesis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 14:16:49 No.14369028 Report

Quoted By: >>14369301

>>14366968
just take B12 pills
supplementless nutrition is a meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 15:00:15 No.14369138 Report

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>>14364863
Because my sex junk, is so oh oh oh!

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Anonymous Wed 06 Apr 2022 16:28:23 No.14369301 Report

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>>14369028
go for methylcobalamin which has the better R group

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