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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 05:46:25 2022 No.14357107 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14357191 >>14357499 >>14357526 >>14358307 >>14358318 >>14358630

>durr remove a carbon and suddenly it fucking blinds you
okay why is that you fucking gay boys (I know all you chemists are either gay or women and women don't post here, so don't deny it)

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 05:48:50 No.14357108 Report

Quoted By: >>14357110 >>14357114

shut the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 05:50:03 No.14357110 Report

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>>14357108
Did I hit a nerve? :monkaHmm:

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 05:54:02 No.14357114 Report

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>>14357108
oops wait a minute
blueboard emojis
<img class="xae" data-xae width="32" height="32" src="https://s.4cdn.org/image/emotes/d3c674ba_monkaHmm.png">;

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 06:02:58 No.14357125 Report

Quoted By: >>14357182

There's nothing inherently demeaning about being gay or a woman. You do know that, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 06:49:00 No.14357182 Report

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>>14357125
You are one and want to be the other, but it is not possible.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 06:51:22 No.14357185 Report

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just answer the fucking question
I'll even grant that you might be the rare heterosexual chemist (<span class="xae" data-xae="smirk">??[/spoiler]) if you do

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 06:57:15 No.14357191 Report

Quoted By: >>14358642

>>14357107
>drink one
>FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH
>drink the other
>PAINFUL DEATH
choose wisely, adventurer

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 10:54:56 No.14357499 Report

Quoted By: >>14357520

>>14357107
>no one has provided an answer
this board fucking sucks.
the body deals with alcohol via alcohol dehydrogenase which oxidizes alcohols into aldehydes which are then dealt with aldehyde dehydrogenase which oxidizes them into carboxylic acids which are prolly turned into some salt or something.
this leads to methanol forming formaldehyde then formic acid which are pretty gnarly stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 11:07:42 No.14357520 Report

Quoted By: >>14357542 >>14358294

>>14357499
This begs the question of why methanoic acid bad but ethanoic acid OK to the point you put it into salad dressing.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 11:11:31 No.14357526 Report

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>>14357107
If you want to understand the effects of chemicals on the body, you need to ask a biologist or a medic and not a chemist, retard.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 11:24:05 No.14357542 Report

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>>14357520
obviously it's much more acidic than ethanoic acid. if i remember correctly it, its ion or some salt/ester formed by it interacts with something in the mitochondria and the cns.
i guess that ethanol is a much more common byproduct than methanol hence the less toxicity

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 17:24:43 No.14358294 Report

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>>14357520
well you see different shapes make for different enzime/receptor intereactions, that "extra carbon" means a third of its size
and when it comes to reactivity alone not only does it have a different acidity, it also has a reducting effect, the formate can turn into CO2+ H(-) which is very reactive

im sure there is a well understood metabolic reason on why different alcohol have different toxicities

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 17:35:51 No.14358307 Report

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>>14357107
because ethanol ends up as acetate in the liver which is an abundant fuel source building block in the body while methanol ends up as formic acid that isnt used by the body and its way more reactive and soluble and thus can accumulate much more and cause nerve damage especially in the retina.
both are toxic though just to different extents due to their size and utilization by the body.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 17:39:34 No.14358318 Report

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>>14357107
because God loves his ethanol which He made as the primary fermentation product.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 20:00:34 No.14358630 Report

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>>14357107
FUck off

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Anonymous Sat 02 Apr 2022 20:03:42 No.14358642 Report

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>>14357191
is this "mirror image" an example of chirality?

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