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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 22:14:51 2022 No.14347546 View Reply Original Report

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This is an actual diagram from psychology professor Jordan Peterson’s “Maps of Meaning.” Since psychology is technically a science, this is the only board I can ask.

Can someone please explain to me what the fuck this actually means?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:17:52 No.14347551 Report

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>>14347546
Taking a guess, its meant to be his model for interpreting some of the ideas of Carl Jung. A map or maybe a collage illustrating the connections between the connections as he sees them. Couldn't tell you what the big idea was given his tangents.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:25:31 No.14347568 Report

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no clue. that guy should take his meds

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:38:52 No.14347592 Report

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>>14347546
>what happens when you browse /x/ and /lit/ and don't read the Torah with Rashi's commentary

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:58:48 No.14347643 Report

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>>14347546
Just remapping basic dichotomy into some other structure. All dualism is the same shit: passive/active, light/shadow, male/female, create/destroy. The only thing more cringe are the monist copes merging arbitrary poles: crestroy, hemaphrodites, syntactic operators. It is an artifact of language where some proposition induces others Destruction is no more the opposite of creation, than creation even existing in the first place. A recombination of already existing things is a type of generation that is called life and yet some recombination of the same things is called death. All of these words are just signs to get you to find the exit off of the wordcel expressway.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:12:53 No.14347671 Report

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>>14347546
>source: i was tripping balls on ayahuasca, LSD and mescaline

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:18:25 No.14347682 Report

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>>14347643
this, its just dualistic idealism

"wordcel" automatically outs you as a midwit though

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:40:43 No.14347734 Report

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>>14347546
https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:47:48 No.14347751 Report

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>>14347546
It's weird philosophical ideas and rhetoric around the human mind that is trying to masquerade as a science.

His ideas might make sense and work to get some incel loser to clean up his room and find purpose in life but it isn't because it's an empirical/scientific understanding of the human mind. Psychology is alchemy yet to become chemistry, even the post-psychoanalytic shit we have today. Read about the reproducibility crisis in the lower sciences, especially psychology, of you want to find out more.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:58:08 No.14347777 Report

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>>14347643
>crestroy
It's a rare thing you reed a 8-letter word for the first time

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:59:11 No.14347780 Report

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>>14347777
*WHEN YOU READ
I wasted Heaven's quads

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 00:03:49 No.14347788 Report

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>>14347643
>It is an artifact of language where some proposition induces others Destruction is no more the opposite of creation, than creation even existing in the first place.
wrong, it is an artifact of ideas, not language. However you conceive of the world, there must be some things that are ontologically lesser.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 01:06:23 No.14347947 Report

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It doesn't mean anything. It looks like New Age mumbo jumbo. Jordan Peterson often has a difficulty of articulating what he means anyway. Whenever I watch his videos, he is talking some weird mumbo jumbo that doesn't mean anything to normal people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0f4Lgqvd24

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 01:12:26 No.14347960 Report

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It doesn't mean anything. It looks like some New Age schizo mumbo jumbo. Jordan Peterson often has a difficulty of articulating what he means anyway. He can't explain things in a simple and non-confusing way. Whenever I watch his videos, he is talking some weird mumbo jumbo that doesn't mean anything to normal people. I always feel really confused when I watch him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbVwV8_TEkM

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 01:24:56 No.14347985 Report

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It borders on the occult but usually he doesn't take the leap so it sounds strange.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 02:08:33 No.14348051 Report

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What page is it from in the book? you know it's like a 600 page book with many of these diagrams building from more simple to complex and using them to help illustrate the ideas he is talking about..?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 02:55:59 No.14348136 Report

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>>14347960
>He can't explain things in a simple and non-confusing way.
That's probably precisely why he's (financially) successful, you don't make money by just echoing common sense or popular ideas, you "add-value" by clouding it and making it sound like you've stumbled upon some esoteric knowledge.
Of course, since it's just popular knowledge repackages it "feels right".
Scott Adams does the same thing in a different way.
I've never heard of "think past the sale" but I have heard of "assume the close".

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 17:52:16 No.14349622 Report

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>>14347546
my favorite part of this diagram is the discarded panties, with the crotch labeled "sexual"

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:04:39 No.14349647 Report

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>>14347546
It's two versions of the same thing: diagram for Order vs Chaos.

The Walled Garden represents highest level of Order. (Traditionally MALE)

The Serpent/Dragon eating its tail is the primordial Chaos. It's the lowest or level of order. (Traditionally FEMALE)

The Spirit of God or YAHWEH is the highest level of Order. (Patriarchal World of Light / Heaven or Thought: Traditionally MALE)

The Void is the lowest level of Order aka Chaos. (Matter, Material Plane, The Deep)

The cosmic egg is an ancient symbol representing both potentialities.

>>14347682
He is actually correct.

>>14347546
>Since psychology is technically a science
It's really not. Peterson is great though. As far as learning psychology he's the best. Hope this helped.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:11:35 No.14349659 Report

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>>14347546
p.s. I studied psychology for almost 10 years, It's a complete and total waste. Its a complete pseudo science, for the love of your future self go into STEM. I'm starting from the ground up now. Fucking massive waste. Good luck.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:14:39 No.14349671 Report

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>>14347546
several academic psychologists criticize Peterson for this magick bullshit and not understanding stats

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:41:51 No.14349745 Report

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>>14347546
shizo graph

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 18:58:27 No.14349797 Report

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>>14347546
>what the fuck this actually means?
It means that even smart, well educated people can have their minds corrupted by religion. It's sad.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 19:07:00 No.14349835 Report

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