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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 17:03:06 2022 No.14346869 View Reply Original Report

How do the redditiers of 4chan justify the environmental impact of their lithium batteries and electric cars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:06:46 No.14346883 Report

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we're going to FUCK the earth RIGHT IN THE CRUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:19:51 No.14346907 Report

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>>14346869
Source me up chief, I don't trust Twitter blue checkmark brainlets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:23:59 No.14346918 Report

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>>14346869
doubt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Ize_-_KAM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:24:09 No.14346919 Report

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>>14346869
>25000+30000+5000+25000=85000
Where is he getting 500000 pounds figure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:35:48 No.14346944 Report

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>>14346869
when you dig up fossil fuels, you burn them and they're gone forever, but batteries can be recycled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:41:06 No.14346956 Report

Quoted By: >>14346969 >>14347485

>>14346944
why not just electrolise hydrogen out of water using energy from thorium reactors

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 17:48:30 No.14346969 Report

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>>14346956
>>thorium reactors
are a fucking meme and have no advantages over conventional molten salt reactors. In the west, we'll be lucky to get new reactors period. The west just can't do big projects anymore.
>>hydrogen
hydrogen storage is still an issue and there isn't much hydrogen distribution infrastructure in place

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:18:39 No.14347038 Report

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>>14346869
>call others redditors
>uses twitter as a source
youre a tool son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:23:39 No.14347049 Report

Quoted By: >>14347111

>>14346869
Why aren't these batteries recyclable?

It seems to me they should be. It's not as if those elements are destroyed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:23:39 No.14347050 Report

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>>14346869
We have no redditors here. If we do send them to Canada, to purify or blood

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:25:35 No.14347056 Report

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>>14346919
I think he mentions you need to dig up the ore, which is not all crust. So perhaps you must dig up x lbs of crust to get 1 lb of ore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:52:45 No.14347106 Report

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>>14346869
Look out of window. Environment seems fine. No problem.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:53:17 No.14347109 Report

Quoted By: >>14347136 >>14347918

nothing to see here

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:54:20 No.14347111 Report

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>>14347049
they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:55:45 No.14347117 Report

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>>14346869
>Brine is mined
The absolute state of oil shills

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:55:56 No.14347118 Report

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itt chuds pretending to not know about the petroleum industry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:58:02 No.14347123 Report

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>>14346869
how tf those walls don't collapse and holes don't get filled with water?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 18:58:37 No.14347124 Report

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I don't see the problem. Saltwater batteries are cheap, good for grid storage, and easy to manufacture, so why shouldn't we use lithium for consumer electronics? Is this some ecological argument? Are they ignorant of the ecological damage caused by fossil fuel extraction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:00:41 No.14347136 Report

Quoted By: >>14347488

>>14346869
>>14347109
>wind energy bad because landfills
>batteries bad because they are made from metals
i think the part this thread is missing is the 'comparing the fully-considered enironmental impact of this and the alternatives '
otherwise this just seems to be a contrarian circlejerk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:02:25 No.14347142 Report

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>>14347123
Clearly the walls are sturdy enough to support the weight of the water pressing against them, but to account for water infiltration the mining company must pump out water at an average rate equal to the infiltration rate to prevent water from filling the pit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:04:46 No.14347145 Report

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Every economic activity will cause some environmental damage. I mean stone age tribes kill wild animals and chop down trees, you cant live without doing some damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:08:34 No.14347150 Report

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>>14346869
1) Not true
2) Energy independence from perfidious thirdies >>> whatever gay idealogy you hold dear

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:21:05 No.14347178 Report

Quoted By: >>14347325

>>14346869
critics are dime a dozen, come up with a solution or kill yourself to be one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:28:52 No.14347194 Report

Quoted By: >>14347202

>>14347142
Imagine one of those walls collapsing and thousands of tons of water rushing in, what a grand sight that would be

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:32:23 No.14347202 Report

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>>14347194
That would take explosives. They spend a fortune analyzing the site to ensure that doesn't happen. The economics of mining becomes complicated quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:43:56 No.14347220 Report

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What do they do with all the crust afterwards do they put it back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:54:33 No.14347249 Report

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>>14346869
That's Diavik diamond mine you fucking retards, not a lithium mine.

t. Mining engineer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 19:58:18 No.14347258 Report

Quoted By: >>14347512

>>14346869
hydrogen is the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 20:05:26 No.14347273 Report

Quoted By: >>14347308

>>14346869
>Dig it up
>Take out Lithium
>Put it back
Easy as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 20:28:36 No.14347308 Report

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>>14347273
b-b-but look at all the zeros!!!?!?!?!?!1/1/1/??!?!? 50000000!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 20:36:11 No.14347325 Report

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>>14347178
Bikes

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 21:44:17 No.14347477 Report

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>>14347325
>Bikes
Calm it on the söy intake. You might start making more sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 21:46:19 No.14347485 Report

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>>14346956
Hydrogen is a scam element we should just forget about in shame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 21:48:10 No.14347488 Report

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>>14347136
It's a troll thread mate, most likely by a bot, it's been done at least a dozen times by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:01:21 No.14347512 Report

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>>14347258
>hydrogen is the future

How many miles away do you live from the nearest hydrogen station? Answer the question and round to the nearest mile.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:15:33 No.14347549 Report

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>>14346869
Not my problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:43:01 No.14347598 Report

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>>14346869
Somehow I doubt we've displaced 1 trillion pounds for just EV car batteries.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:51:40 No.14347625 Report

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>>14347485
yes, it is a scam, let's just forget it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 22:57:52 No.14347641 Report

Quoted By: >>14347695

>>14346869
the real problem is that no EV company is following on their recycling batteries promises

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Mar 2022 23:22:55 No.14347695 Report

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>>14347641
It doesn't matter, they will get outcompeted by whoever does.
Retrieving and refining the required materials out of the ground will always be harder than out of dead batteries.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 00:52:31 No.14347896 Report

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>>14347598
mining and processing of raw materials for rechargeable batteries accounts for more than 5% of all carbon emissions on the planet. nancy pelosi and the rest of the "green economy" promoters never told you about that part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 00:57:47 No.14347918 Report

Quoted By: >>14348368

>>14347109
all that fiberglass is made with thermoset polymers. Impossible to recycle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 00:58:25 No.14347920 Report

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>>14346869
>Big number scary

I wonder how this dude would react if he found out just how much oil we burn every year. All of that turned into nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 00:59:33 No.14347925 Report

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>>14347896
That has nothing to do with the post you're responding to, and fossil fuels are responsible for 100% of carbon emissions so your point is moot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 05:38:14 No.14348368 Report

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>>14347918
what a pointless waste, green energy shit is all fake and gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:04:08 No.14348405 Report

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>>14346869
Ops pic is misleading. Most lithium comes from subsurface brines.

https://mineralseducationcoalition.org/minerals-database/lithium/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:06:49 No.14348411 Report

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>>14346869
>this same exact thread again
Kys faggot

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Anonymous Wed 30 Mar 2022 06:42:44 No.14348467 Report

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>>14348411

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