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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 10:11:14 2022 No.14340104 View Reply Original Report

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Why cant science just admit it doesnt know stuff instead of making these half arsed guesses.

I got taught about the big bang and dark matter in school like it was some locked in certain thing. Why cant they just say we dont know how the universe got here and we dont know what 99% of the matter in the universe is and leave it at that?

Why teach us a bad guess that is going to turn out to be wrong anyway.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:12:13 No.14340105 Report

Quoted By: >>14340113 >>14342020

The makers of kurzgesagt are evil and ought to hang.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:15:45 No.14340113 Report

Quoted By: >>14340904 >>14342020

>>14340105

is the world really going to change at all if people just say we dont know how the universe got here. Do we really need this weird delusional guess to calm people down?

Is this psychologies fault?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:22:47 No.14340125 Report

Quoted By: >>14340666 >>14341988

>>14340104
do you have a better explanation for the CMB and hubble's law

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z Cassandra, Malcadors Predecessor , To Russians Use The Imperium Flag Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:25:01 No.14340128 Report

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:25:44 No.14340129 Report

Quoted By: >>14340161 >>14342020

>>14340104
>I got taught about the big bang and dark matter in school like it was some locked in certain thing
Blame your teachers.

>Why teach us a bad guess
It's a well-supported hypothesis.

>that is going to turn out to be wrong anyway.
Maybe, maybe not, but someone thought it would be a good idea if midwits like you at least knew where science currently stands. I disagree. I think educating midwits is counter-productive to the point of being civilization-ending.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:28:42 No.14340139 Report

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>>14340128

Interesting theory, so you are saying schools teach this so schizos cant come along and try and teach people other stuff later on?

I still think you could just teach kids we dont know and anybody trying to tell you a theory is full of shit and dont believe them. it would have the same effect.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:39:20 No.14340161 Report

Quoted By: >>14340169 >>14342020 >>14343536

>>14340129

well supported is a bit of a steep claim. Nobody knows half the stuff required to even remotely know the answer.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 10:43:23 No.14340169 Report

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>>14340161
>well supported is a bit of a steep claim.
Most scientists disagree with you. Maybe you're right and they're wrong, but they teach the scientific consensus, not your opinion, for fairly obvious reasons.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Sun 27 Mar 2022 13:35:31 No.14340494 Report

Quoted By: >>14340623 >>14343536

>>14340104
oh, the words "I don't know" are the most difficult to say for cattle. soientists are not paid for it. ah, since government started sponsoring science, it has become bullshit, bubble. scientists and philosophers of old were independent or rich people.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 14:28:00 No.14340623 Report

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>>14340494
>oh, the words "I don't know" are the most difficult to say for cattle. soientists are not paid for it.
Scientists will give you their best bet and acknowledge it for what it is. Few of them would insist that their models are true with certainty.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 14:38:53 No.14340666 Report

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>>14340125
couldn't CMB just be the by product of star activity since we know the CMB maps onto galactic clusters and we know it would just be gravitationally bound to these clusters.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 14:52:07 No.14340712 Report

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>>14340104
>Why cant science just admit it doesnt know stuff instead of making these half arsed guesses.

Truth is a thing of this world: It is produced only by virtue of multiple forms of constraint. And it induces regular effects of power. Each society has its own regime of truth, its "general politics" of truth: that is, the type of discourse which it accepts and makes function as true

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 15:54:41 No.14340904 Report

Quoted By: >>14342020

>>14340113
>Do we really need this weird delusional guess to calm people down?
No, but we need it to prevent the crumbling of the abrahamic narrative.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:17:52 No.14341941 Report

Quoted By: >>14342019

>>14340104
It's called a theory for a reason dumbass. Nobody said it was 100% true and nobody said they knew everything about the universe. Literally it's only there because it's the closest guess that we have based on our current understanding/math, it will most likely change within the next couple centuries.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:29:31 No.14341966 Report

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>>14340104
I'm fine with the big bang. What has never been explained to me is where the singularity came from. It seems like some force created the singularity, so after this universe enters heat death, I see no reason why that force won't make another singularity for another big bang.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:38:14 No.14341988 Report

Quoted By: >>14341992

>>14340125
>do you have a better explanation for the CMB and hubble's law
Not OP but quit simple. There is a technology on earth when a radio link is not on direct sight. U use two beams and in the crossing there is a little scatter on dust you can receive. One beam is our galaxy, the other the rest of the universe, dust exist enough. The remaining scatter maybe the background radiation. I am a layman, please don't hang me.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:39:26 No.14341992 Report

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>>14341988
The scatter result in energy loss which is the redshift of Hubble constant.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:39:48 No.14341993 Report

Quoted By: >>14342003

>>14340104
>I got taught about the big bang and dark matter in school like it was some locked in certain thing.
this isn't any scientists fault. it was the educational system that failed you.
the big bang is our best current model but it wont nor it ever has remained stagnant.
it has and it will change.
if you think it's wrong then the entirety of the scientific community is, has and always will be, open to a better proposal.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:43:15 No.14342003 Report

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>>14341993
Unless the proposal is about vaccine safety

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:48:16 No.14342019 Report

Quoted By: >>14343418

>>14341941
>Nobody said it was 100% true and nobody said they knew everything about the universe
I think the system of education GLOBALLY gives that theory as established fact.
> it's the closest guess
no, it's not even close, but you're too thick to think otherwise, or to even rationalize your opinion.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:48:25 No.14342020 Report

Quoted By: >>14342048

>>14340104
>>14340105
>>14340113
>>14340129
>>14340161
>>14340904
You're missing the point.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:56:26 No.14342048 Report

Quoted By: >>14342860

>>14342020
What was the point? That it's noble to tell "we still don't know"? But then what do we really know 100%? Like nothing. But maybe the following was the point you didn't want us to miss?
> Why teach us a bad guess that is going to turn out to be wrong anyway.
Because that guess is rather absurd, and thus suits their goals to make you think yourself stupid to teach you to trust the wise men up above.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 21:57:06 No.14342051 Report

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>>14340104
we make up shit because then we'll know what to look for, then if we're wrong we can make up something else

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Anonymous Sun 27 Mar 2022 22:07:05 No.14342101 Report

Quoted By: >>14342577

>>14340104
>I got taught about the big bang and dark matter in school like it was some locked in certain thing.
Idk where you live, but in most post-soviet countries those theories are presented a mere speculations or just ignored.
In my school we had topics like dark matter as mostly an example of how using some basic math and physics knowledge you can arrive to those problems yourself, which i find really cool and motivating. Its supposed to show an obvious gap in knowledge, and how most of our theories are not exactly correct

I dont really know anyone claiming big bang theory to be a certain fact, but this mostly sounds like "retarded teachers" kind of problem, not science\school program

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 00:56:29 No.14342577 Report

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>>14342101
>in most post-soviet countries those theories are presented a mere speculations or just ignored.
Are you speaking of those muslim shitholes?
What did you taught instead of that?
Or were you the one ignoring it simply deserting the classes?

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El Arcón Mon 28 Mar 2022 00:59:32 No.14342585 Report

Quoted By: >>14343092

The purpose of this paper is to lay out things which ought to be investigated. Did you read the abstract? OP's question is basically, "Why doesn't he just not write the paper?"

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 01:37:32 No.14342686 Report

Quoted By: >>14342794

>>14340104
If you are too stupid and willfully ignorant to understand what science actually says, if you never understood the principle of the scientific method, its limitations and advantages, and if you buy into all the bullshit popsci media says and equate it to real science, then you will be too stupid to understand anything at all.

The fact of the matter is real science cant be arsed having to preface every statement with a recap of what science is just to satisfy every ignorant halfwit who couldn't be arsed learning what the scientific method means. Fuck you and fuck every last one of you stupid assholes. The Human race might actually get somewhere if all you cretins were all sterilized.

t, Scientist.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 01:45:26 No.14342698 Report

Quoted By: >>14342822 >>14342887

>>14340104
Isn't the big bang theory a pretty solid theory at this point? It's something that's been worked for a couple of hundred years at least and if there was a better explanation we would've found it by now.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 02:40:01 No.14342794 Report

Quoted By: >>14343276

>>14342686
>t. Scientist
Imagine needing to invoke authority to validate your propositions. kys

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 02:50:09 No.14342822 Report

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>>14342698
It's the favorite trollpost of this board after evolution and before souls
I suggest you report it and move on

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 03:09:05 No.14342860 Report

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>>14342048
Ok.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 03:21:34 No.14342887 Report

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>>14342698
>Better explanation
>We would have found it by now
We did, But you deny it like the fag you are

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 05:16:29 No.14343092 Report

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>>14342585
>neighborhood of infinity
into the trash it goes

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Geo (don) Mon 28 Mar 2022 05:17:33 No.14343096 Report

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>>14340104
Philosophy was illegal.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 07:21:25 No.14343276 Report

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>>14342794
Cut your gonads off subhuman. Fuckwits such as you are parasites which need to be eliminated

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 07:48:07 No.14343309 Report

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>>14340104
>why can't science admit it doesn't know stuff
the current science on the big bang and universe in general is "we don't know" you dumbfuck. they're teaching you (hopefully) the extent of what we do know.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 07:51:18 No.14343312 Report

Quoted By: >>14343330

>>14340104
I can't prove it but I tend to believe it is impossible for us know. What a human can know or create has an upper bound...which is why AI is bullshit.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 08:03:37 No.14343330 Report

Quoted By: >>14343510

>>14343312
>What a human can know or create has an upper bound...which is why AI is bullshit.
Yes, Einstein wasn't smarter than his parents. That would have been impossible logically after all.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 08:52:02 No.14343418 Report

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>>14342019
>I think the system of education GLOBALLY gives that theory as established fact.
I think you're a retard.
High school physics didn't say anything about the Big Bang or dark matter where I grew up. We were learning about Newtonian mechanics, and electromagentic waves and shit. Cosmology is university stuff.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 09:42:23 No.14343510 Report

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>>14343330
We can infinitely progress getting halfway to the finish line with each step, yet never arrive.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 09:49:00 No.14343518 Report

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>>14340104
big bang isn't real because i didn't see it with my own eyes
do your research

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Anonymous Mon 28 Mar 2022 10:03:03 No.14343536 Report

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>>14340104
>>14340161
>>14340494
t. dunning kruger

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