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Anonymous Wed 02 Feb 18:17:39 2022 No.14178787 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14178806 >>14179188 >>14179239

why the fuck does everybody say "entropy is a measure of disorder" and then stumble over their own words trying to explain it further? entropy is much closer to homogenization than any other simplified synonym.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Feb 2022 18:25:04 No.14178806 Report

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>>14178787
They fall over themselves because it's difficult to know if the final state will be asynchronously homogenized, or synchronously homogenized.

Does your final state oscillate periodically or does it not oscillate periodically? If it does not oscillate periodically, you can extract energy, and so entropy is not maximum.

Shit gets real weird real fast.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Feb 2022 20:16:22 No.14179188 Report

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>>14178787
Uh, you are a bit dumb.
Your homogenizaton scales terribly. It's not scale invariant. Yes, at an extreme scale like at a galaxy, a random bunch of gas is homogenous. But what happens when you zoom in to the micrometer and nanometer scale? Then it becomes the opposite. The ordered galaxy is more homogenous.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Feb 2022 20:28:35 No.14179239 Report

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>>14178787
Entropy is simply the consequence of the irreversibility of certain physical processes. Though, in practice the point of maximum entropy approximately 0 energy can be extracted, I say approximately because we now know that you actually can extract work from random fluctuations as a consequence of, well, statistics, but the amount is so small it's practically 0 for all intents and purposes.

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