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Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 10:50:43 2022 No.14169963 View Reply Original Report

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Is homeopathy a scam? I find it hard to believe it, if I do not get an actual scientifically-based explanation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:17:07 No.14169995 Report

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>>14169963
NEWSFLASH
If a treament works, it would be used by hospital

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:23:22 No.14170004 Report

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>>14169995
>i come to 4chan.org to tell ppl not to think for themselves
is that why this board can't meme? because you prefer to leave it all up to the experts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:30:50 No.14170015 Report

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>>14169995
Only if the treatment is done expensively by big pharma

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:32:12 No.14170020 Report

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>>14169963
if you can sell $0.01 of water for $5.00 and you're not saturating the market, you are doing it wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:45:22 No.14170055 Report

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>>14169963
The original ideas behind homeopathy have been long integrated into the modern medicine.
Modern homeopathy is... If you use gorrillion molecules of water to dissolve one molecule of drug, divide the resulting product into million portions and sell, how much drug would an average consumer get?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:46:26 No.14170060 Report

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>>14169995
What if the treatment is unprofitable? Or less profitable than some other treatment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:53:16 No.14170078 Report

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>>14169995
Placebo works, yet hospitals barely utilize it. I've never heard of hospitals organizing healing rituals, at best they will sell you some overpriced water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 11:56:12 No.14170088 Report

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>>14170060
No. Such. Thing
If it is """unprofitable""" it's only because it's too expensive to make.
Too cheap to produce would cause it to dominate the market. If it fucking works

>>14170078
It works and they do utilize it.
Check out sugar pills

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 12:15:05 No.14170133 Report

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>>14170088
>Too cheap to produce would cause it to dominate the market.
If it is patented. It gets memory holed otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 12:19:08 No.14170141 Report

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>>14170133
Like Penicilin and Insulin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 12:33:55 No.14170167 Report

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>>14169963
Some drugs may be active even at a few parts per million.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 12:42:00 No.14170181 Report

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>>14169963
>Is homeopathy a scam?
Yes
>Why
It's based on the idea that the more you dilute something, the strong it becomes. Based on this reasoning, if I took 1 ml of 99% alcohol and added it to 1 l of water, the resulting solution would be stronger than the original 99% alcohol. Does that sound right to you? If it does, go an open the most profitable bar in existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 12:56:18 No.14170209 Report

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>>14170015
Nationalize pharmaceutical companies then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 17:45:04 No.14171055 Report

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>>14169995
>If a treatment works
Ear candling, Cupping therapy, Acupuncture are still used today and have zero known health benefits.
Alternative Medicine is another way to make quick money. So, yes it's a scam, just stick with things that work like Western medicine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 17:47:33 No.14171067 Report

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>>14170004
>because you prefer to leave it all up to the experts?
you say this like it's a bad thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 17:54:03 No.14171089 Report

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>>14171067
Experts are idiots.
Just slightly less so than /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:04:02 No.14171123 Report

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>>14170209
>The solution to this problem is to do something that we know for a fact is even worse than the problem itself.
Why are left-wingers like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:04:30 No.14171126 Report

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>>14171089
Who cares if they're idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:08:39 No.14171133 Report

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>>14169995
Oh you naive child.

Cures don't make money.
"Treatments" do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:20:58 No.14171173 Report

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>>14171055
Yeah, used by salons and Chinese medicine shops, not hospitals

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Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:35:57 No.14171229 Report

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>>14169963
Where I live some pharmacies sell homeopathic remedies, and it's legal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:37:58 No.14171237 Report

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>>14171229
I am thirdworld shitter and we fucking know it's a scam.

Let me guess, democrat hell hole?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:41:53 No.14171253 Report

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>>14170209
You do realize Big Pharma became like this because the government got involve, right? The US used to have the best and the cheapest healthcare, but it wasn't perfectly safe. Now the government is involved, so it's ok even if you die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:45:40 No.14171266 Report

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>>14171237
No, Italy. It's a scam and everybody knows it. It's like a loicense to pray on the less cognitively able. On the positive side only a small fraction of pharmacies do that (in my area probably less than 20%), but I'm still fucking pissed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:49:22 No.14171280 Report

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>>14171173
Chiropractors have there own practices and aren't considered doctors by any means.
Also, its not what is being used in hospitals. No hospital uses homeopathy at all for any serious treatment.
Misinformed patients that find it on the internet go to these stupid places to get some quick "results" or placebo effect to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:53:48 No.14171294 Report

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>>14170167
Homeopathy isn't a few parts per million. In order to count as Safe to the regulators, scientifically there can't be more than a single molecule of the active drug, probability-wise.

It's the dumbest possible bullshit and Health Canada approves it and our major drug stores stock it in large quantities and it's a complete wtf and evidence of the overall system failing.

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:54:46 No.14171298 Report

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>>14169995
ahahaha

Viruses don't exist

Viruses don't exist Mon 31 Jan 2022 18:55:50 No.14171307 Report

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>>14169963
childrens don't need it, cats don't need it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 21:22:48 No.14171919 Report

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>>14171266
>but I'm still fucking pissed.
Just let the regards be regards, the government doesn't have to legislate that everyone does everything perfectly correctly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 23:13:24 No.14172490 Report

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>>14169963
Of course it is. I didn't actually know what it was for the longest time so I googled it and couldn't believe it was real. It's obviously bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 23:14:34 No.14172496 Report

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>>14170181
Congratulations you have hacked the simulation. That's how you get infinite alcohol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 23:23:28 No.14172545 Report

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>>14170078
>placebo works yet hospitals don't use it
confirmed to never have been in a hospital. they use the placebo effect on almost every non-emergency that walks in.

>I have this pain here
>okay, here take this essentially over the counter medicine that sounds complicated but is just stronger advil, that'll clear up most if not all your symptoms
>patient gets better within days no matter what the issue was

>>14169963
>here, this flower oil will address some but not all of your health issues
>actually, let me water it down by 99.9999999%
>now, let me raise the price 10x the price of the oil itself
>OP: am I being scammed?

If you are asking stupid questions like this past the age 18, then you'll always be the type of person to be scammed no matter what anyone tells you. Sucks to be you man, learn to be frugal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 31 Jan 2022 23:24:21 No.14172548 Report

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get sick, eat garlic, feel better

wtf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 00:20:11 No.14172745 Report

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>>14172545
Easy to say in your position, but when someone is sick and desperate, you grab yourself to anything that might give you hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 02:33:03 No.14173144 Report

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Most of it is BS but some things labeled homepathic have benefit and science to back it.. zicam was considered homeopathy even though they had a listed active ingredient with a known benefit. they made them remove the zinc because a few people had side effects. They still sell it but with no zinc but it doesn't really work anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 03:21:35 No.14173330 Report

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>>14171173
And physiotherapists. I am having trouble finding a sports medicine place that does not also indulge in these 'treatments'. It's supposed to be sports science not sports pseudoscience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 03:28:30 No.14173355 Report

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>>14169963
it’s psuedoscience based on placebo’s.
it works to a degree for healthy people who desperately desire the need to believe they’re getting “medicine” to help with their slight cough. but expecting it to cure chronic pain or cancer is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 03:35:17 No.14173378 Report

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>homo?pathy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 03:36:51 No.14173383 Report

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>>14172745
>but when someone is sick and desperate, you grab yourself to anything that might give you hope
yes. and placebo fails specifically in this scenario.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 03:39:41 No.14173392 Report

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>>14172496
>never learnt the pissing in the whiskey bottle trick
Tastes the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 04:17:12 No.14173460 Report

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>>14173144
Maybe you mean naturopathy? Or holistic medicine? Homeopathy literally means "there is almost certainly less than 1 molecule of the active ingredient in the box".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 04:29:30 No.14173477 Report

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>>14169963
>Is homeopathy a scam?
Yes.
>Is the placebo effect real?
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 06:26:38 No.14173673 Report

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>>14169963
Yes. It consists of diluting a "remedy" to the point where you're just drinking water.
>>14169995
Not true. Hospitals often prescribe a variety of treatments that don't do anything other than alleviate a symptom; for example insulin for diabetics when the cure is changing one's diet and exercising (at least this is certainly the case for type 2). Hospitals in general are as propagandized as everyone else thanks to the Rockefellers to the point where being a doctrine pretty turned into being a drug dealer for a corporation and their function in most cases tend to be drug dens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 06:38:51 No.14173701 Report

Quoted By: >>14173706 >>14173741

None of you even know what homeopathy is.
You all just believe it's the simplified dilution idea you've heard about.

This makes for depressing reading.
Everything in life is resonance and vibration, if you can apply this knowledge to the right things, you can achieve the seemingly impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 06:46:27 No.14173706 Report

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>>14173701
>Everything in life is resonance and vibration, if you can apply this knowledge to the right things, you can achieve the seemingly impossible.
Like the HIV Nobel Prize guy and the teleporting viral RNA but only when it's sourced from a body and not a petri dish pre-dilution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Feb 2022 07:39:29 No.14173741 Report

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>>14173701
>You all just believe it's the simplified dilution idea you've heard about
It is. Even homeopaths don't deny this. Sure, the marketing sells it as "herbal wisdom from grandmother" and most homeopaths are light headed new age retards with healing stones and color resonance vibration scented crystal enemas in their offices, but the dilution factors are right there on the package, anon. D5 and what not.

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