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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 04:52:23 2022 No.14081424 View Reply Original Report

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there is this dude on TikTok who is a physiotherapist or something like that that claims that "good posture" is basically a meme we force on ourselves, that trying to maintain "good posture" causes back pain more than "bad", comfortable posture and that thinking that posture can reshape your spine (scholiosis, "nerd neck" etc) is absurd
is he right or is he full of shit /sci/?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 04:58:53 No.14081441 Report

Quoted By: >>14081456

>dude on TikTok
Your answer

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:01:24 No.14081448 Report

Quoted By: >>14081456

>tiktok vs an anonymous anime board
hmm thats a tough one. both are full of excellent experts.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:05:24 No.14081456 Report

Quoted By: >>14081485

>>14081441
yeah but he cites studies and stuff
>>14081448
well there are a lot of medifags here I'm sure

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:14:55 No.14081474 Report

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even if what he was saying is true it doesn't change the fact that humans find good posture more attractive

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:18:19 No.14081485 Report

Quoted By: >>14086411

>>14081456
it’s just wrong. you don’t need science to know this, just pay attention to your own bodily discomfort. I’m not a medifag but I’ve had multiple spinal injuries and been to physical therapy for recovery and bad posture is just… bad. your spine functions like a lever, and your upper body weight should equally distributed through it (to prevent excessive wear on discs and vertebrae). it isn’t difficult to have good posture, it just takes time to make it a habit, and once you do so having “bad” posture very quickly starts to feel “bad”. sure when you’re young it doesn’t matter, but if you have routinely shitty posture into your late 20s/early 30s, you’ll already begin to feel the long-term degradation you’ve been causing.

the one bad back habit I struggle to break is my sleep posture, I still side sleep or belly sleep, but if I maintained good posture throughout the day then it’s trivial to adjust it.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:23:06 No.14081500 Report

Quoted By: >>14081506

>>14081424
>tiktaktoe

i hate zoomers

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 05:25:35 No.14081506 Report

Quoted By: >>14082042

>>14081500
we weren’t any better at their age, anon. don’t lie to yourself.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 10:58:18 No.14082018 Report

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>>14081424
probably true to some extent. you need to transition to good posture by loosening and strengthening muscles, not contort your body. you can't get good posture through exercises alone but neither simply assuming what you think is good posture whenever you remember.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 11:10:04 No.14082042 Report

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>>14081506
yes I was

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:09:35 No.14082192 Report

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>>14081424
Well in a properly functioning body, one would expect that by now evolution has made it so that what's comfortable is what's optimal. And I believe that in most things this is the case.

As the environment changes, we are affected however. For example, junk food is very addictive because junk food is an artificial/modern thing that wasnt part og evolution. So if you follow the "comfortable" route with that, then you'd be unhealthy.

With posture it might be a bit trickier but im inclined to believe that your physical fitness has something to do with it. You probably wont improve your health by maintaining a straight posture, but rather if you become fitter, maybe your posture will improve? I personally think comfortable is healthier when it comes to this.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 19:41:19 No.14084006 Report

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only 'incorrect' good posture (if a midwit learned it wrong) is 'bad'
otherwise simply the activation of the muscles required vs. sloth would be a significant benefit.
Then you get into things like spinal health, breathing, heart etc...
Then you get into things like attractiveness...

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 20:01:38 No.14084104 Report

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>>14081424
The spine was never designed to be upright. It’s evolved slower than our abandonment of walking on all fours, so it will eventually cause problems no matter what your posture is
If you want to look like a hunchback old freak when you’re older then dont worry about your posture, if you want to look like you can stand up straight, then worry about it
Also look into inversion therapy

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 00:37:41 No.14085396 Report

Quoted By: >>14085403 >>14085730

>>14081424
A cousin sat like pic related whenever he used a PC, for 20 years.
Currently has chronic lower back pain (doesn't do heavy physical labor) and has a pathological x-ray images.
Painkillers won't work unless he uses addictive shit so he pretty much depends on his physiotherapist to avoid addiction.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 00:38:41 No.14085403 Report

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>>14085396
image*

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 00:51:14 No.14085435 Report

Quoted By: >>14085448 >>14085584 >>14085757 >>14086364

What's the best way to correct posture, scientifically speaking?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 00:53:20 No.14085448 Report

Quoted By: >>14085456

>>14085435
Depends what specific posture problem you have, but the first step is identifying it and paying attention to it, being aware of when you’re doing it and correcting it when you become aware

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 00:55:28 No.14085456 Report

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>>14085448
Thanks fren.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 01:38:47 No.14085584 Report

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>>14085435
non scientific but exercises like this feel great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 01:40:13 No.14085588 Report

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Read the book Awareness Through Movement.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 02:32:17 No.14085730 Report

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>>14085396
Is he fat? I sit like this every day since childhood and I'm currently 32. I have 0 back pain whatsoever. I am pretty athletic though and I run, walk, and hike multiple times per week so maybe that is why it doesn't affect me?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 02:43:26 No.14085757 Report

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>>14085435
correct your posture whenever you realize you're sitting or standing wrong.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 02:46:09 No.14085761 Report

Quoted By: >>14086361

>>14081424
I dunno whether you've captured his beliefs accurately, but I get cervicogenic tension headaches from too much forward head posture. I can do regular chin tucks and go for many months without a single tension headache, only to get a tension headache a few days after I stop doing them. Then I do some chin tucks and kill the tension headache in under an hour vs. a persistent headache for days.
I also believe I've had great results for other issues with door-frame chest stretches and correction of anterior pelvic tilt, though I haven't played around with the causality there over many years.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 07:25:09 No.14086361 Report

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>>14085761
Noceboed
>>14081424
https://www.painscience.com/articles/posture.php

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 07:26:24 No.14086364 Report

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>>14085435
There is no "bad" posture
https://www.barbellmedicine.com/blog/barbell-medicine-guide-to-neck-pain-part-ii-posture/

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 07:47:25 No.14086411 Report

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>>14081485
>the one bad back habit I struggle to break is my sleep posture, I still side sleep or belly sleep
is side-sleep bad, I thought it was how hominids naturally slept? It sure as hell isn't normal for me to sleep on my back, it is pretty much guaranteed to give me sleep paralysis and horrible snoring.

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