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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 00:58:17 2022 No.14076130 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14076181 >>14076288 >>14076419 >>14076859 >>14077015 >>14082368

can someone explain this shit to a dummy? I've watched 2 videos about the "monster group" and I don't know what they fuck they are talking about or WHY its so "OMG OMG OMG AMAZING!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:10:24 No.14076181 Report

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>>14076130
It's zoomer shit

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:16:20 No.14076220 Report

Quoted By: >>14076232

Why do you keep reposting this?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:18:07 No.14076232 Report

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>>14076220
never posted here before. you might be a fagot

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:28:03 No.14076288 Report

Quoted By: >>14076297

>>14076130
stop spamming this shit every week you retarded fuckwad

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:29:20 No.14076297 Report

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>>14076288
what the fuck are you yapping about. Women aren't allowed here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:57:35 No.14076411 Report

Quoted By: >>14076972

https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/14034036/

Previous instance of this.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 01:59:27 No.14076419 Report

Quoted By: >>14076505

>>14076130
>I've watched 2 videos about the "monster group" and I don't know what they fuck they are talking about or WHY its so "OMG OMG OMG AMAZING!"
This is abstract algebra in a nut shell. Algebraists lucked out that a tiny bit of their nonsense turned out to be useful in cryptography otherwise they would be totally irrelevant.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 02:22:55 No.14076505 Report

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>>14076419
That's more number theory than algebra, but you're seriously new if you haven't seen any applications of algebra to anything in chemistry, biology, physics, CS, etc.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 03:53:48 No.14076859 Report

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>>14076130
imagine learning muslim math called "al jabbar" lol i'd kms if i was a group theorist

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 04:18:45 No.14076972 Report

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>>14076411
>al
thanks

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 04:18:54 No.14076974 Report

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>>14076859
The math in al-Khwarizmi's famous book included elementary algebra like solving linear equations in one variable, not group theory.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 04:34:02 No.14077015 Report

Quoted By: >>14078124

>>14076130
It's an extremely complex simple group and it's not clear why it exists

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 13:07:05 No.14078124 Report

Quoted By: >>14078134

>>14077015
>only 15 distinct prime factors all < 100
yeah really "complex" lmao

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 13:13:20 No.14078134 Report

Quoted By: >>14078744

>>14078124
Show me a faithful representation of it then.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 16:46:03 No.14078744 Report

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>>14078134
even easier only need 10 to do that

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 16:56:14 No.14078777 Report

Quoted By: >>14078803

>>14078744
You still haven't shown it.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 17:03:27 No.14078803 Report

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>>14078777
your shitty 3d eyesight isn't my problem

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Anonymous Sun 09 Jan 2022 18:41:18 No.14079147 Report

Quoted By: >>14083070

>>14076505
>if you haven't seen any applications of algebra to anything in chemistry, biology, physics, CS, etc.
Algebraists look at any field that has any symmetries in it and say "look! algebraists must have invented that field!"

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 12:58:35 No.14082368 Report

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>>14076130
certain number groups can't be reduced to the others so they're special. The primes of groups.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 15:49:57 No.14083070 Report

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>>14079147
scum

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 17:56:13 No.14083548 Report

Quoted By: >>14084684 >>14085835 >>14085970

Say you have an equilateral triangle and you want to find the symmetries. you can rotate it 120, 240, 360 degrees to get the same symmetrical triangle. At the same time you can reflect it around axes to get the same symmetry. You can have a group of symmetries consisting of {120 rotation, 240 rotation, reflection on point a, etc..} The Monster Group is the largest group possible and what makes it distinct other than being incredibly large is that it exist in exactly 196,883 dimensions.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jan 2022 21:54:00 No.14084684 Report

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>>14083548
>The Monster Group is the largest group possible
There are groups of arbitrary order.
The Monster is the largest finite sporadic group but that's not what makes it interesting. It's interesting because the underlying vertex algebra, despite not being humanly imaginable, has deep connections to a number of disparate fields.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 03:30:27 No.14085835 Report

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>>14083548

it's impossible to draw then?
I imagine it had to be discovered with computers

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Anonymous Tue 11 Jan 2022 04:34:43 No.14085970 Report

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>>14083548
>>14084684
psst

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