Physical things can't exist

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Physical objects can't possibly exist, only immaterial things like math.

Deconstructing every possible thing that something physical can be, will always end with immaterial properties, descriptors, and perceptions. Physical objects are essentially the same as imaginary ones.

Take something like color firstly. Various animals will perceive the color spectrum differently because we have different cones etc. So for example, when you hold up a green object, a dog looks at it and may see blue for example. There is no objective color independently out there separate from the observer, it is completely subjective and created by the mind of the creature.

The same can happen with the shape of an object. If your entire visual field is warped in some way, it may be possible that a perfect square looks like an oblong (or really any shape), and when you run your fingers along its edges, because your fingers are part of the visual field which is now deformed, you can trace the edges of the object with your finger and feel it exactly where it looks to be, yet visually it appears like a different shape because the field of vision is altered... If you close your eyes, it may still feel like a square. Then you open them and it looks rectangular...

Of course the same subjectivity is in ALL senses including touch (it's possible tracing the edges of a square could FEEL like a rectangle despite still looking square). And yet to describe anything as physical we will almost always invoke a perception like "round" or "smooth" which cannot exist outside of the brain's rendering of it. If not some form of learned perception, we will describe it with math or by its interactions with other objects. But math is immaterial and an interaction with another object does not ever explain what the physical object itself actually is in physical terms.

When we look at the world, we aren't actually looking at anything at all, it's just illusion. All of reality is infinite illusion in all directions.